Key signature: Gmajor
Submitted on March 21st 2009 by Mix O'Lydian.
This tune has been added to 21 tunebooks.
Also known as Boic Bhaile Átha Cliath, Boic Bhaile Atha Cliath, Bucks Of Dublin.
X: 1
T: Bucks Of Dublin, The
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: slide
K: Gmaj
|: D | GBd dBG GBd efg | dBG ABc BGE AFD |
GBd dBG GBd efg | dBG ABG E2 F G2 :|
|: D | GBd g2 b afd dBG | GBd gfg afd e2 f |
gfg aga bge ege | dBG ABG E2 F G2 :|
The Bucks of Dublin
A slide, but somewhat reminiscent of the jig: "St. Patrick's Day".
# Posted on March 21st 2009 by Mix O'Lydian
Shlide ~ ?
# Posted on March 21st 2009 by ceolachan
Where did you get this one? This melody, as given, doesn't read as a 'slide'...
# Posted on March 21st 2009 by ceolachan
"Boic Bhaile Átha Cliath" / "The Bucks of Dublin"
“Ceol Rince na hÉireann IV” ~ Breandán Breathnach
page 28, #53 ~ Breandan's transcription:
X: 2
T: Bucks Of Dublin, The
S: “Ceol Rince na hÉireann IV” ~ Breandán Breathnach, page 28, #53
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: single jig (?)
K: Gmaj
|: D |\
GBd dBG GBd efg | dBG ABc BGE AFD |
GBd dBG GBd efg | dBG ABG E2 F G2 :|
|: D |\
GBd g2 b afd dBG | GBd gfg afd e2 f |
gfg aga bgd ege | dBG ABG E2 F G2 :|
However, this melody as transcribed makes more sense to me this way:
X: 2
T: Bucks Of Dublin, The
S: “Ceol Rince na hÉireann IV” ~ Breandán Breathnach, page 28, #53
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: jig
K: Gmaj
|: D |\
GBd dBG | GBd efg | dBG ABc | BGE AFD |
GBd dBG | GBd efg | dBG ABG | E2 F G2 :|
|: D |\
GBd g2 b | afd dBG | GBd gfg | afd e2 f |
gfg aga | bgd ege | dBG ABG | E2 F G2 :|
As it stands this lacks both the clear flow of a 12/8 bar/phrase, and also lacks the characteristic slow-quick pulse, or N2 N... Here's an attempt to make it swing more in line as a single jig, which do not always fit the 12/8 form ~
X: 3
T: Bucks Of Dublin, The
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: single jig (?)
K: Gmaj
|: D |\
GBd d2 G | GBd e2 g | dBG A/B/cA | BGE F2 D |
GB/c/d d2 G | GB/c/d e2 g | dBG A^GA | E2 F G2 :|
|: D |\
GBd g2 b | afd g2 B | GB/c/d g2 g afd e2 f |
g2 g a^ga | bgd e2 g | dBG A^GA | E2 F G2 :|
# Posted on March 21st 2009 by ceolachan
Oops!, bleary eyed I missed a bar ~ | GB/c/d g2 g | afd e2 f | ~
Gimme a shot of 'Crested Ten' and a pint of Guiness bar tender...
# Posted on March 21st 2009 by ceolachan
Jig v Slide
Ceol - Heard it at a session, just recently.
I've come across these "slide or single jig?" debates before - for example, "The Road to Lisdoonvarna"
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/250
So call it what you like.
I'm somehow reminded of a saying of a Dublin fiddle player, (Bernard/Barney Dunn) who played with us some years ago.
I had noticed that some people called him "Bernard", whereas others called him "Barney". So I asked him one day which name he preferrred. He replied:
"Ye can call me whatever you like, as long as it's not too early in the mornin'!"
# Posted on March 22nd 2009 by Mix O'Lydian
Bucks of Dublin
does anyone have any history on this tune? ( I like it)
# Posted on March 22nd 2009 by Laurainey
"The Bucks of Dublin" / "Boic Bhaile Átha Cliath"
Submitted on March 21st 2009 by Mix O'Lydian.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/9448/comments
“Ceol Rince na hÉireann IV” ~ Breandán Breathnach
page 28, #53
# Posted on March 22nd 2009 by ceolachan
There is a distinction, and it is also how you feel it as a dancer too. Most of the older musicians were also dancers. Playing it faster doesn't make a jig a slide... But, as you say, this has been discussed before, and if someone feels they need to call a rabbit a hare, so be it. Maybe they are deficient in their sight or their knowledge of the differences...
# Posted on March 22nd 2009 by ceolachan
I like the taste of both ~ rabbit and hare, especially in a pie...
# Posted on March 22nd 2009 by ceolachan
Re: Bucks of Dublin
Breathnach had it from a manuscript from the early 20th century by Bernad Bogue from Co Monaghan & Tyrone. According to the notes in CRE IV.
# Posted on March 22nd 2009 by Prof. Prlwytzkofski
I've got to agree with 'c', 'mix', To me this is definitely a jig. It isn't even a single jig so I don't feel there is any connection with the 'single jig/slide, debate. Slides definitely have a feel about them no matter what the speed. I have found that some slides ask to be played faster than others. Some feel wrong being slowed down others feel O.K. being slowed down. "Merrily kissed the Quaker" is one such and constantly gets played at a steady double jig speed, probably because of all the triplets.
# Posted on March 22nd 2009 by hetty
Re: Bucks of Dublin
Thanks for the reminder kilfarboy, I'd meant to add that to the 'comments' and got distracted...
# Posted on March 23rd 2009 by ceolachan
“Ceol Rince na hÉireann IV” ~ "Boic Bhaile Átha Cliath" / "The Bucks of Dublin"
Breandán Breathnach, edited by Jackie Small
page 28, #53
Source: Manuscript, Bernad Bogue, Co Monaghan & Tyrone, beginning of the 20th Century...
# Posted on March 23rd 2009 by ceolachan