Key signature: Gmajor
Submitted on January 15th 2009 by Mix O'Lydian.
This tune has been added to 9 tunebooks.
X: 1
T: Zeak Waltz, The
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: hornpipe
K: Gmaj
|:(3DEF|G>FG>A G2 B>A|G>FG>A G2 A>B|c>BA>G F>GA>G|F>ED>^C D2 (3DEF|
G>FG>A G2 B>A|G>FG>A G2 A>B|c>BA>G F>GA>F|G2 G2 G2:|
|:(3GAB|c2 A2 A>cA>c|B2 G2 G>BG>B|A>BA>G F>GA>G|F>ED>^C D2 (3GAB|
c2 A2 A>cA>c|B2 G2 G>BG>B|A>BA>G F>GA>F|G2 G2 G2:|
The Zeak Waltz
Yes, I know that it's called "The Zeak Waltz", and that I have submitted it as a hornpipe!
But that's because it's a hornpipe, even though it's called "The Zeak Waltz". It's played with a swing, so I've specifically notated it in that way.
This tune comes from Cornwall (the Celtic and most south-western part of England, and formerly part of Wales).
The pace of life is much slower down there, so maybe that explains the anomaly.
But I don't really know.
Answers on a postcard, as they say ...
# Posted on January 15th 2009 by Mix O'Lydian
|: (3DEF | G>FG>A G2 B>A | G>FG>A G2 A>B | ~ etc... ~ ?!
# Posted on January 15th 2009 by ceolachan
Generally preferred over ~
|:(3DEF|G3/2F/2G3/2A/2 G2 B3/2A/2|G3/2F/2G3/2A/2 G2 A3/2B/2| ~
# Posted on January 15th 2009 by ceolachan
> ~ is usually interpreted as 3/2-/2...
# Posted on January 15th 2009 by ceolachan
Back to School Again?
Oh dear, Ceol's teaching me my abc again
Ceol - yes, I know that there are two valid ways of notating hornpipes in abc.
The method that I used was the one that I used when first writing abc, so I've tended to stay with it.
But if you prefer the other format, please feel free to re-submit the whole thing in a comment below ...
# Posted on January 15th 2009 by Mix O'Lydian
Take it as you will. The > has been around as the standard longer than you and I have been... Also, not all software handles all the /2 and 3/2... But /2 ain't any standard at all except a few old software programs that it was incorporated into... You won't be alone in taking it your own way, or sticking with what you first took as the standard, wherever that was gleaned from... I think, not sure, that the software here can deal with it, but I think it had been a problem in the past, which was why I offered the quick comment above, as I was rushing out the door... C'est la vie...
# Posted on January 15th 2009 by ceolachan
I did hesitate, and I should have taken that warning and kept shtrum...
# Posted on January 15th 2009 by ceolachan
Cornwall tune
Mix,where did you get this tune?
http://www.cornwallcam.co.uk/
# Posted on January 16th 2009 by MattO'K
As easy as ABC?
Ceol -
I've just tried pasting my abc into the Tune-a-Tron ABC Convert-A-Matic on concertina.net. I believe that's the converter that most people use. - It worked fine.
The Steve Mansfield online tutorial shows my method as being valid:
http://www.lesession.co.uk/abc/abc_notation.htm#l_field
If you are saying that there is some software that couldn't handle it, what software would that be?
I'm more than happy to follow a "standard" - if there is one. Where can I find it?
Finally, as I said before, feel free to re-notate the tune using the other method, and post it right here in the comments section.
# Posted on January 16th 2009 by Mix O'Lydian
Cornwallcam?
Matt O'K -
I don't really understand the significance of the link that you posted (apart from it having some pictures of Cornwall) - perhaps you would care to explain?
To answer your question, I learned the tune from a musician friend who told me that the tune came from Cornwall.
# Posted on January 16th 2009 by Mix O'Lydian
Cornwall
The link is about pretty pictures.Nothing else intended.
# Posted on January 17th 2009 by MattO'K
The Zeak Waltz
Cornwall a part of Wales? I'm not sure I've heard that before - there's a lot of Gloucestershire, Somerset and Devon to traverse before you can get to Cornwall from Wales, and the sea voyage would be equally onerous.
Unless the reference is to the linguistic heritage - Welsh, Breton and the now revived Cornish being one major subdivision of the Celtic languages - and so more or less mutually intelligible (sort of, but probably mainly on the written level in practice) - while Irish, Scottish and the almost defunct Manx make up the other subdivision.
# Posted on January 17th 2009 by Trevor Jennings
Zeak (?)
Mix, I believe ceol is simply pointing out that ~ in some of the older tune collections the broken rhythms were written in long hand.
Earlier abcs for "The Zeak Waltz" were written when ABC2Win was "state of the art".
ceolachan was actually making a positive comment about your abcs. Thanks for submitting this one.
# Posted on January 17th 2009 by Ben Steen
Cornwall - Kernow - Wesr Wales
Lazyhound -
When I referred to Cornwall having once been "part of Wales", I should perhaps have said that Cornwall was once known as "West Wales":
"Before 878 AD, when the drowned King Donyarth is recorded in the Annales Cambriae as Rex Cerniu (King of Cornwall), Cornwall was known as West Wales and recognised as having a distinct autonomous identity. Athelstan, the grandson of Alfred, attacked the south western Celts in 927, forcing their withdrawal from Exeter."
See this link for the full web article:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A10686710
(And linguistically, Cornish is closer to Welsh that it is to other Celtic languages).
# Posted on January 18th 2009 by Mix O'Lydian