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Sonny's

mazurka

Key signature: Gmajor

Submitted on July 29th 2008 by jimmydearing.

This tune has been added to 10 tunebooks.

Also known as Skelton's, Sonny's No.63.

Recordings of a tune by this name:

Cherish The Ladies by Peg McGrath, Kathleen Smyth, Mary Mulholland
Claddagh Ring by The Tulla Ceili Band
Dance Music Of Ireland: Volume 10 by Matt Cunningham
Festival Of Traditional Irish Music by Various Artists
Foinn Seisiun 1 by Ceoltóirí Cultúrlainne
Irish Jigs by Paul Hutchinson, John Hymas And Tony Harris
Irish Music by Various Artists
Live At Passim by Boys Of The Lough
Off Kilter by Off Kilter
Play On by Celtic Fiddle Festival
Sligo Ceili by Seamus Tansey
The Ballydesmond Polka by Dan Herlihy And John Drew
The Chieftains 3 by The Chieftains
The Master's Choice by Bobby Gardiner
The Ulster Outcry by Ar Leitheidi
Traditional Irish Sessions by Various Artists
Up And Away by Paul Smyth

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Sonny's Mazurka No.63

I found this tune on a long-forgotten website some years ago, and haven't been able to find it since. But this was the title given.
On the website it was a .gif file, and followed Mazurka Nos.1 and 2.
I thought, how odd that the next would be No.63, but chalked it up to "the Irish sense of humour."
I've never heard it anywhere else.
Can anybody help? Anybody know this tune from elsewhere?

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by jimmydearing

? ? ? ~ & also played in the keys of A & D

Yes, I know this one, but not as 'Sonny Brogan's'. I'd be surprised it wasn't here already, but I never cease to be surprised, which I think is a good thing. I'll do some checking when I can and at least add another take on this if it isn't already here... I suspect the numbering was done by the collector as a lark, or maybe a mistake they left remain...

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by ceolachan

& the barndance ~

This melody is also known as a barndance/schottische in 4/4 ~

D2 G2 GFGB | D2 B2 BABd | c2 cB AG FG | (3ABA (3GFE DCB,D | ~

I'll check and see if it is already here, in one key or the t'other...

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by ceolachan

Crazy, I'm not finding either, in any of the three keys, straight or swung... Sorry, just stubborness, I had an inclination it was already on site here, in some form or key...

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by ceolachan

'French' origins? ~ It is a melody that has gotten passed around over time...

Here's another transcription, from our ABC tutorial guru Steve Mansfield, but no mention as to where he picked this up, though I think it is in several printed collections, past and present... The two transcripts linked to are the same as that shown...

LeSession ~ Steve Mansfield
http://www.lesession.co.uk/index.htm

Music: Tune collections
http://www.lesession.co.uk/music/index.htm

Tune file from Le Grand Session de Manchester
http://www.lesession.co.uk/music/lgsdmweb.abc

86 British and French dance tunes from the repertoire of English ceilidh band Shake The Dice
http://www.lesession.co.uk/music/ShakeThe.abc

X: 131
T: Mazurka
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
R: mazurka
K: GMaj
|: DG GF GB | DB BA Bd | cB AG FG | AG FE D2 |
DG GF GB | DB BA Bd | cB AG FG |[1 A2 G4 :|[2 A2 G2 Bc ||
|: d2 de dc | BA G2 AB | c2 cd cB | A4 Bc |
d2 de dc | BA G2 AB | cB AG FG |[1 A2 G2 Bc :|[2 A2 G4 |]

Very few differences from JD's transcription. On the one given, I'd simplify it with lead-ins rather than 1st & 2nd endings, like so ~

I'll look around and come back with some other takes on it...

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by ceolachan

French!!! ~ "The Massif Central Tune Book No.1"

Compiled by Mel Stevens
Drgaonfly Music, 1987

Tune #75: Mazurka ~ 'gan ainm!'

I knew this was familiar. We used to play a set that included "Sonny Brogan's", the one most are familiar with, and we did it in a set of three that included this French mazurka, and another... Am I guilty of the name confusion? :-/

In the early days of this site I had submitted some of those non-Irish tunes, this one included, and at the time, under a stricter regime and a tighter definition, those un-Irish things, though played in sets with Irish things and even ~ dare I say ~ in Ireland ~ went "POOF!" ~ and that includes this deal old melody.

No wonder I was deepening the furrows of my forehead and repeating "Huh!" & "Damn it, I know this!" But, hey, what's new, eh? At least I got my answer... :-)

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by ceolachan

"The Massif Central Tune Book No.1" ~ for further comparison

Compiled by Mel Stevens
Drgaonfly Music, 1987

Tune #75: Mazurka ~ 'gan ainm!'

There are two in this series, two collections packed with lovely tunes. It is a shame the Dragonfly publications are no longer available...

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by ceolachan

Where's me hair shirt and whip? ~ Mea culpa! ~ Mea culpa! ~ Mea culpa!

& NO!!! ~ I NEVER CALLED IT "SONNY BROGAN'S" ~ it was just something we put alongside "Sonny's Mazurka"... :-/

"Sonny's / Sonny Brogan's / Johnny Doherty's /
Vincent Campbell's ~ (etc...) Mazurka"
Key signature: D Major
Submitted on February 2nd 2006 by AlBrown.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/5476

Another melody that takes the name can also be found here, and the two can also be found together ~

"The Irish / Sonny's ~ (etc...) Mazurka"
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on January 2nd 2003 by Trevor Jennings.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/1276

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by ceolachan

Forgive me Kenny & slainte & ~ damn foreign influences... 8-)

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by ceolachan

"Gan Ainm Barndance / Schottische" ~ this melody in another guise

Key signature: G Major
Submitted on July 29th 2008 by ceolachan.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/8759

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by ceolachan

Duplicated

I have posted this mazurka a few year ago: http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/3522

Jim-san, we have played this tune several times in Tokyo, and I always forgot to ask where you learnt it. I picked it up off Mayo flute player Paul Smyth's recording. I've never heard it anywhere else. Anyway, we play the same version of the same tune whatever it's called, and wherever we heard.

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by slainte

'c', I'm not a purist snob.

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by slainte

I know Hiro, dear friend, I know... I'm just ribbing you... I thought this was already here, I'm glad you have confirmed it...

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by ceolachan

Whew, no wonder no attempt to find it worked... No worry, others have done worse with this one, slamming all the notes together in a bar and even notating it as 3/8.

Check your mail Hiro... ( X fingers crossed! )

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by ceolachan

Thanks, sleuths all!

Perhaps this is where I got it, right on, ceolachan -- Steve Mansfield's site lesession.co.uk, repertoire of Eng. ceili band Shake the Dice.
The "Brogan's" and .gif file I claim to have seen were my memory fabrications.
Hmm.. already wearing my hair shirt. Where's me whip?

X: 63
T:Mazurka
T:Sonny's Mazurka
M:3/4
L:1/8
R:Mazurka
N:http://www.lesession.co.uk
Z:Steve Mansfield 1998-2001
K:G
DG GF GB | DB BA Bd | cB AG FG | AG FE D2 |
DG GF GB | DB BA Bd | cB AG FG |1 A2 G4 :|2 A2 G2 Bc |:
d2 de dc | BA G2 AB | c2 cd cB | A4 Bc |
d2 de dc | BA G2 AB | cB AG FG |1 A2 G2 Bc :|2 A2 G4 ||

Thanks ceolachan with the final edit, improved lead-ins rather than 1st & 2nd endings for my abc setting.

And Slainte, I raise a toast to your many steadfast postings, with apology since you posted it earlier. My abc-search didn't turn it up, possibly because of the slightly diffrerent phrasing. But I've answered your question now..

You are excused for missing the session tonight..! ;-)

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by jimmydearing

Don't let him off so lightly Jimmy...

# Posted on July 29th 2008 by ceolachan

I used to play this tune on the Hurdy Gurdy during the seventies. Iearned it off an lp of music from the Auvergne by the French group 'Gentiane' which was one of the vehicles for Bernard Blanc and Jean Blanchard.

# Posted on July 30th 2008 by kilfarboy