Key signature: Gmajor
Submitted on March 8th 2008 by ceolachan.
This tune has been added to 9 tunebooks.
Also known as Humors Of Bantry, The Humors Of Bantry, Humours Of Bantry.
X: 1
T: Humours Of Bantry, The
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
R: jig
K: Gmaj
|: d | g2 g ege | dBG AGE | D2 G A^GA | BG/A/B AGE |
gfg e/f/ge | dBG AGE | DEG A^GA | BGG G2 :|
|: d | edd gdd | edd gdB | def gfg | edB A3 |
[1 g2 g ege | dBG AGE | DGG AcA | BGG G2 :|
[2 gfg a^ga | bge edB | G2 G A/B/cA | BG/G/G G2 |]
"The Humours/Humors of Bantry" ~ O'Neill
"O'Neill's Music of Ireland: 1850 Melodies", 1903, page 133, tune #711
"O'Neill Dance Music of Ireland: 1001 Gems", 1907, page 19, tune #13
"O'Neill's Irish Music", 1915, page 75, tune #129
X: 2
T: Humors of Bantry
T: Humours of Bantry
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
R: Jig
K: G Major
|: d |\
gfg e/f/ge | dBG AGE | DEG AGA | BGB AGE |
gfg e/f/ge | dBG AGE | DEG AGA | BGG G2 :|
|: d |\
edd gdd | edd gdB | def gfg | edB AGE |
[1 gfg e/f/ge | dBG AGE | DGG A/B/cA | BGG G2 :|
[2 gfg aga | bge edB | GFG A/B/cA | BGG G2 |]
# Posted on March 8th 2008 by ceolachan
Alias "The Blackthorn Stick" with slight differences & a 2nd ending
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on May 27th 2002 by kardshark87.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/702
& other familiy members ~
"The Maid On The Green"
Key signature: G Major
Submitted on July 20th 2003 by gian marco.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/1831
"Mick McGarry's Jig"
Key signature: D Major
Submitted on June 24th 2004 by Dow.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/3202
# Posted on March 8th 2008 by ceolachan
This really is just a variation on the Blackthorn Stick. I wouldn't call it a separate tune. The litmus test is: try it at your local session. If people join in with the Blackthorn Stick, then it's likely the tune isn't going to hold its ground in sessions. I'd personally let it gather dust in O'Neill's. Blackthorn Stick is one of my favourite tunes though.
# Posted on March 8th 2008 by Dow
I'd also be wary of calling The Maid On The Green "family". The A-part is very similar, yes, but can you prove that one was a direct descendant of the other?
# Posted on March 8th 2008 by Dow
To be in the same family is not the same as one being a direct descendent of the other. A common ancestor is all they require.
# Posted on March 8th 2008 by GaryAMartin
Right. So is there a common ancestor?
# Posted on March 8th 2008 by Dow
Changes in parts are not exactly rare, such as an A-part known and a B-part forgotten or half remembered, or an A-part from one and a B-part from another suddenly coming to hand and being taken as a reasonable pairing ~ they are still related, share something significant, like a part, A or B... Also, there isn't necessarily a no go with taking the second part of this against others playing the more common if later version known as "The Blackthorn Stick".
In the end it is Jeremy's call and he may axe this. Personally, I like the second ending from this, which may even predate "The Blackthorn Stick". Mostly, the name "The Blackthorn Stick" seems to be a later occurance, as far as I can figure...
The links are there for people to compare themselves, in your case you disagree, alright, point made...
# Posted on March 8th 2008 by ceolachan
There are bastards in music too...
# Posted on March 8th 2008 by ceolachan
"The Blackthorn Stick" ~ 1883
I have a dozen different versions of the tune in front of me at the moment, and it is to be found in this old stalwart ~
"Ryan’s Mammoth Collection", 1883
(consequently also in "Cole's 1,000 Fiddle Tunes")
# Posted on March 8th 2008 by ceolachan