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Christy Barry's

jig

Key signature: Gmajor

Submitted on June 30th 2002 by Jon Kiparsky.

This tune has been added to 156 tunebooks.

Also known as The Ballyconnell, The Butlers Of Glen Avenue, The Butlers Of Glenn, Christy Barry's No. 2, Sully's Fancy.

Recordings of a tune by this name:

Blueprint by Natalie MacMaster
Celtic Groove Band by The Sevens
Ceol Agus Foinn : Music And Songs From The Willie Clancy Summer School by Various Artists
Days Of Doolin by Dulsert
Foinn Seisiun 2 by Ceoltóirí Cultúrlainne
Jamie Smith by Jamie Smith
Janus by Mooncoin
Journeyman by Gerry O'Connor
Late... In The Night by Christy Barry, Conor McCarthy, Cyril O'Donoghue
Little Fires by Hanz Araki
Otherworld by Lunasa
Sarah'ndipity by Sarah Burnell
Sheridan's Guesthouse by Dave Sheridan
The Fertile Rock by Chris Droney
The Gathering by Various Artists
Think Before You Think by Danu
Traditional Irish Music From County Clare by Martin Vaughan
Where Else Would You Be by The Pub Scouts

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Christy Barry's

I got this off Kevin Crawford's first solo record ("D Flute Album"). A nice little tune - the first one is good too.

# Posted on June 30th 2002 by Jon Kiparsky

Hey Jon

I'm a little confused about the third measure. Would you mind taking another look at it?

Mark

# Posted on June 30th 2002 by Mark Cordova

Fixed

That should get it. Thanks for catching that typo.

# Posted on July 4th 2002 by Jon Kiparsky

First Tune

Do you happen to know the name of the first tune of these two tunes on Kevin Crawford's "D-Flute" album? The track is titled "Christy Barry's Set".

# Posted on July 8th 2002 by Rdunlavey

Names of tunes

As I far as I know (and I may well be very wrong here), the first tune in the set is "The Roaring Barmaid" and this tune, the second, is "The Butlers Of Glen Avenue".

Now, a lot of confusion arises because the first tune is also (kind of incorrectly) known as "The Butlers Of Glen Avenue". It was recorded under that title by Lunasa and Danu.

I don't have the Kevin Crawford album to hand. Could anyone confirm that the first tune in the set is the same tune played on the Lunasa and Danu albums?

# Posted on July 8th 2002 by Jeremy

Names

I've always called them both "Christy Barry's" and "No, the other Christy Barry's", the titles being interchangeable.

# Posted on July 9th 2002 by Jon Kiparsky

Tune titles

Jeremy,
The first tune on the Christy Barry set as recorded by Kevin Crawford set is not "The Roaring Barmaid".
The tune listed on the Lunasa "Otherworld" album as "The Butlers Of Glen Avenue" is in fact "The Roaring Barmaid".
The Christy Barry #2 is "The Butlers Of Glen Avenue" composed by Anthony Sullivanwho also composed "The Roaring Barmaid".
Clear so far?
The name and origin of the Christy Barry #1 are as yet a mystery. Who is Christy Barry anyway?

# Posted on July 26th 2002 by milesnagopaleen

Christy Barry

I'm afraid I can't help on the names for these two great jigs but Christy Barry is a well known Clare musician who plays flute and whistle and has recently made a CD along with accordion player, Conor McCarthy.

# Posted on July 27th 2002 by Bannerman

Tune names

Christy Barry's set, as played by Kevin Crawford on his "D Flute Album", consists of two jigs. The first is called "Christy Barry's", composed by Christy himself. The second is "The Butlers Of Glen Avenue" by banjo player Tony Sullivan. Lunasa's and Danu's "Butler's" is actually "The Roaring Barmaid" by Tony Sullivan. Mike McGoldrick recorded "The Roaring Barmaid" under its correct name.

# Posted on August 12th 2002 by SPeak

Does anybody read the previous posts?

# Posted on August 16th 2002 by milesnagopaleen

Butlers of Glen Avenue

I'm surprised in all the commentary that nobody bothered to review the posted abcs and note how "off" they are. A closer transcription of Crawford's playing (without all of the variations he tosses in) goes as follows:

X: 1
T: Butler of Glen Avenue
C: Tony Sullivan
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
R: jig
K: Gmaj
DEG EDB| DEG ~B3 |DEG B2 e| dBe dBA|
DEG EDB| DEG ~B3|dB/c/d gfe|1 dBA ~G3:|2 dBa ~g3||
gab age|deg ~B3|gab gab| dB/c/d e{f}e d|
gab age|deg ~B3 |dB/c/d gfe|1 dea ~g3:|2 dBA ~G3||

Fiddlers and banjoists can play the Bs in the 1st and 5th bars of the A part as B, - an octave below what's posted here, to great effect (and probably closer to Mr. Sullivan's original).

# Posted on June 28th 2005 by Will CPT

Nothing like the one in the Lunasa book.

# Posted on June 29th 2005 by Unseen122

Avery, that's cuz the lads got the name wrong--they applied the wrong name to the tune (which is Roaring Barmaid, unless my dizzy spells have worsened).

# Posted on June 29th 2005 by Will CPT

Professional recordings are in error more than you'd think regarding tune names. Some tunes have multiple names as well. Some tunes have progressive names depending on who played them frequently. Sorting it out can sometimes resemble detective work. Someone should sit down with Paddy Fahey, John Brady, the Dwyers etc. and have them come up with names for their tunes... or maybe not.

# Posted on June 29th 2005 by Phantom Button

What's in a name anyway? I guess Danu made the same mistake I wonder where they learned it...

# Posted on June 30th 2005 by Unseen122

This really is an awful transcription. One of my friends was going to use it to learn the tune and I made him screw it up and throw it out.

# Posted on May 19th 2006 by Dow

I recorded Christy himself play this tune in a workshop in West Clare. This is the second one of all the four jigs in the set. K. Crawford recorded only first two of them. As said above, Christy actually recorded it on the CD he made with Conor McCarthy and Cyril O'Donoghue.

# Posted on May 19th 2006 by slainte

To add to or claify the confusion, Natalie MacMaster has a nice, driving version of this tune (and not The Roaring Barmaid) on her album Blueprint.

And I agree that the main version here is not to be used. whoosis's version above is much closer to the one I play (and have heard). But, as always, get a good recording first (any of the above will do nicely, or find a good player willing to teach it to you), and take all transcriptions (including mine) with a large grain of salt.

Tim

# Posted on July 18th 2006 by tmcelrea

in my opinion whoosis' version is the nicest and it is always the way we play it. although in the second part we just play the second time bar both times..... in my opinion that's nicer too.

does it really matter if your vewrsion is close to the way the person origionally wrote the tune....can't it be your own interpretation? you nerver know, mabye the composer would prefer the way you tweaked it ......

anyway..... i know it by "The butlers of glen avenue"

and play this tune often and throuraghally (sp??) enjoy playing it....

# Posted on November 2nd 2006 by saxwhistle

Sully's Fancy

Chris Droney calls this Sully's Fancy on his Fertile Rock album.

# Posted on December 16th 2006 by PaddyCmusic

"The Butlers Of Glen Avenue" ~ by "Tony" Anthony "Sully" Sullivan

Key signature: G Major
Submitted on April 2nd 2007 by megachug.

& this pulled back from the future, for fear Dow's plea will pass unheaded... (see below) :-(

Comments:

"There seems to be a bit of confusion about this tune - it's already listed on this website as "The Roaring Barmaid". However, it's actually a different tune. The Roaring Barmaid is listed as "The Butlers of Glen Avenue" on Lunasa's Otherworld album - I reckon this was a mistake on their part (although the tunes have one or two similarities). This version of The Butlers of Glen Avenue is on Natalie Macmaster's Blueprint album, and the liner notes says it was written by Tony Sullivan."

# Posted on April 2nd 2007 by megachug

"I have a couple of old tune books by Anthony Sullivan. Sully's Irish Music Book published in 1979 lists both of his compositions. This is indeed the correct title (#63) and The Roaring Barmaid (#70) is what Lunansa refers to as the Butlers of Glen. Mike McGoldrick recorded The Roaring Barmaid under the correct title. Its a simple enough mistake, but when a groups as popular as Lunansa and Danu both use the incorrect name, it seems to carry a lot of weight."

# Posted on April 2nd 2007 by StephenR

"Please don't delete this, Jeremy, I beg of you. The other transcription is inaccurate. This one's really good."

# Posted on April 2nd 2007 by Dow

# Posted on April 2nd 2007 by ceolachan

Megachug's transcript above, I'd just cut-n-paste-n-ran with it, in trust, the comma I didn't catch, and it seems others initially missed it as well... Here are the corrections, one over ~

|: DEG EDB, | ~ | DEG EDB, | ~ bars 1 & 5 of the A-part...

# Posted on April 2nd 2007 by ceolachan

The Butlers of Glen Avenue

It seems my version got deleted - fair enough. But is it possible for somebody please fix up the links from recordings so that they're directed to the right tune (e.g. Lunasa's recording linked to The Roaring Barmaid and Natalie MacMaster's recording linked to Christy Barrys')? It's really confusing for a new person to the site such as me.

# Posted on April 2nd 2007 by megachug

C'est la vie! Notes have been sent to you about options and maybe you can make the difference by contacting the contributors of the recordings and the transcripts. Only the person who made the orginal submission can edit it, a responsibility Jeremy generally leaves up to the individual, with respect... Good luck...

# Posted on April 2nd 2007 by ceolachan

"Ballyconnell Jig" ~ ? ~ another duplication brought back

Key signature: G Major
Submitted on July 23rd 2007 by JACKB.
~ /tunes/display/7529

This transcription was note-for-note identical to Megachug's transcript. The curiosity, as raised by slainte ~

"Now I wonder where the title "Ballyconnell" comes from. Never heard it called that way. Jack, please share more info with us?"

# Posted on July 23rd 2007 by slainte

# Posted on July 23rd 2007 by ceolachan

"This transcription was note-for-note identical to Megachug's transcript."

Except Jack's had a high B in bar 1 for flute/pipes.

The original posted setting of this should be made illegal, and the person who posted it should be punished with 100 whip lashes. Some ear training is in order, I think, before posting tunes to a website like this.

# Posted on July 23rd 2007 by Dow