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Lochiel's Awa' Tae France

reel

Key signature: Edorian

Submitted on March 3rd 2007 by granama.

This tune has been added to 10 tunebooks.

Also known as Lochiel's Awa Tae France, Lochiel's Awa To France But He'll Come Back Again, Lochiel's Awa' Tae France, Lochiel's Awa' To France But He'll Come Back Again, Lochiel's Away To France, Lochiel's Rant.

Recordings of a tune by this name:

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X: 1
T: Lochiel's Awa' Tae France
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: reel
K: Edor
d|:BEE/E/E B2AG|FDD/D/D FAAd|BEE/E/E B2AG|FDEF dBBd:|
ABde gefg|dAA/A/A dAAB|ABde gefg|dBB/B/B dBBd|
ABde gefg|dAA/A/A ABde|fdeB ABdA|FEE/E/E dBBd||

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Lochiel's Awa' Tae France sheetmusic
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Other key

On picking up an instrument, I'm now not sure what key it is normally played in. It could be A dorian:

T: Lochiel's Awa' Tae France
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: reel
K: Ador
g|eAA/AA e2dc|BGG/G/G BEEa|eAA/AA e2dc|BGAG geeg:|:
dega bgab|gdd/d/d gdde|dega bgab|gee/e/e geeg|
dega bgab|gdd/d/d dega|bgae degd|BAA/A/A geeg||

# Posted on March 3rd 2007 by granama

Huh? ~ why link back to yourself?

And I was awaiting to contemplate some revolutionary 'comment'... :-/

# Posted on March 3rd 2007 by ceolachan

Whoa! ~ suddenly something more... But what is that weird notation I see ~ |eAA/AA e2dc| ~ etc... There are 9/16 in those bars... :-/ I really am perplexed now...

# Posted on March 3rd 2007 by ceolachan

"Lochiel's Awa' Tae France"

K: G Major
|: fg |
eA A/A/A e/f/e dc | BG ~G2 Bcdg | eA A/A/A e2 dc | BGAG g/a/g :|
e/f/g |
dega b/b/b ab | gd d/d/d gd B/c/d | dega bgab | ge e/e/e g2 eg |
d2 e/f/g bgaf | gd d/d/d g2 ga | bgag d/d/d gd | BA A/A/A g2 ||

# Posted on March 3rd 2007 by ceolachan

A minor ~ ?

I've just checked several sources I have for the tune and they all have it listed and shown as a minor... I'll do an ABC for one of them and add it here in the comments...

# Posted on March 3rd 2007 by ceolachan

Damn, just realized I've screwed up again, cut and paste from a mess of a text document... The K: above is wrong, as it isn't G Major by any stretch of the imagination. It resolves on A and sounds as spoon has given it ~ Dorian and not minor as the half dozen sources I've dug out suggest... The 'Fs' tending more toward sharp than natural...

# Posted on March 3rd 2007 by ceolachan

"Aird's Selection of Scotch, English, Irish, and Foreign Airs, Volume 3", 1782-97

K: A Dorian
|: g |
eA A/A/A e2 dc | BG G/G/G Bddg | eA A/A/A e2 dg | edgB A/A/A A :|
g |
dega g/a/b ab | gd d/d/d gdde | de ga g/a/b ab | ge e/e/e geeg |
dega b/a/g a/g/e | g/e/d e/d/B gd da/b/ | begd e2 dg | BA A/A/A gee ||

# Posted on March 3rd 2007 by ceolachan

"The Skye Collection" ~ Keith Norman MacDonald, 1887

Page 49: "Lochiel's Awa' to France" Reel ~ old setting

K: A Dorian
|: g |
eA A/A/A e2 dc | B>G G/G/G B<dd<g | e>A A/A/A e2 dc | BGAB gee :|
g |
dega bgab | gd d/d/d gddg | dega bgab|ge e/e/e geeg |
dfga bgab | gd d/d/d gddg | .b.g.a.e degB | BA A/A/A gee ||

# Posted on March 3rd 2007 by ceolachan

"Lochiel's Awa' to France" ~ not composed by Pipe Major George Stewart McLennan

(1883-1927) ~ but a pipe arrangement crammed with twiddles does exist in his book. Too often folks ascribe such things to the twiddler having composed the tune. It ain't necessarily so, and in this case it ain't. George wasn't around in the 1700's. But it is twiddled the hell out of in his book:

"Highland Bagpipe Music, Book 1", 1929
~ Compositions (not exactly ~ 'arrangements') of Pipe Major George Stewart McLennan

A just an 'example', here are the first two measures of this tune from said book:

a | eA {gAGAG}A2 {gef}e3{g}d/g/ | {a}B{d}G {dGe}G2 {g}B<d{c}d>f | ~

# Posted on March 4th 2007 by ceolachan

"Lochiel's Awa' to France" ~ Pipe Major George S. McLennan

Here follows his arrangement, the tune twice through, minus his many twiddles:

e3/ || f/ | = e>f

K: A Dorian
a/ |
eA A2 e3 d/g/ | BG G2 B<dd>f | eA A2 e3 d/g/ | BA A2 a2 e>a |
eA A2 e3 d/g/ | BG G2 B<dd>f | egag e3 d/g/ | BA A2 a2 e3/ ||
f/ |
defg a3 g/f/ | gd d2 g2 d>e | defg a3 g/f/ | gece a2 e>f |
defg a3 g/f/ | gedc defg | agfd e3 d/g/ | BA A2 a2 e3/ ||
f/|
eA A2 eAdA | BG G2 B<dd>f | eA A2 eAdA | BA A2 a2 e>f |
eA A2 eAdA | BG G2 B<dd>f | egag egdg | BA A2 a2 e3/ ||
f/|
defg afge | fd d2 f2 d>e | defg agfa | gefe a2 e>f |
defg a3 g/f/ | gedc defg | agfg efde | BA A2 a2 e3/ |]

# Posted on March 4th 2007 by ceolachan

"But what is that weird notation I see ~ |eAA/AA e2dc| ~ etc..."

Sorry - I'm getting sloppy. It was an impulse posting, see. And it's such a long time since last posted a tune - they're all here already.

# Posted on March 4th 2007 by granama

Did either of you notice the similarity to the Laurel Tree in the 1st part? http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/883, also posted by spoon.

# Posted on March 4th 2007 by Dow

Uh oh, one of the big cahunas has entered the room spoon. Did you ever notice, if the alias wasn't enough on its own, he even capitalizes it. I'm surprised he hasn't given it the full shout ~ DOW! ~ Only the 'n' is missing...

Come on Dow, I was busy making a fool of myself and winding up spoon and then you show up. Now we'll have to wash the blood off and change our shirts... But don't expect genuflection, this ain't the Spanish inquisition ~ or is it? But since you are hear, in spirit if not in body, what do you think about spoon's claim that this and 'The Lougheil March' are related? Come on, we've a threesome now, you gotta take sides one way or the other...

# Posted on March 4th 2007 by ceolachan

"The Laurel Tree' & "Lochiel's Awa' Tae France" & their A-parts

You're right about the similarity between the A-parts of this and 'The Laurel Tree', near identical except one is a single reel and the other a double... I was sure I'd come across elements of this reel elsewhere, and not just with 'The Laurel Tree'...

# Posted on March 4th 2007 by ceolachan

"Lochiel's Awa' Tae France" ~ a bit more

K: E Dorian
|: dc |
BE E/E/E B/c/B AG | FD F/E/D FAdc |
BE E/E/E B2 AG | F/G/A dF FE :|
|: E/F/G |
ABde f2 g/f/e |dA A/A/A dA E/F/G |
[1 ABde g/a/g fe |dBAd FE :|
[2 f2 eB ABdA | FE E/E/E =c2 |]

K: A Dorian
a |
eAEA eAdc | BG G/G/G B/c/d gf | eA A/A/A eAdc | BA c/B/A a/b/a ea |
eA A2 eAdA | BG G2 B<dd>f | egag egdg | BA A/A/A a2 eg ||
dega bgab | gd d/d/d gddg | dega g/a/b ab | ge e/e/e a2 eg |
dega b/a/g ab | gd B/c/d gdga | b2 a/g/f e2 f/e/d | BA A/A/A a/b/a e |]

# Posted on March 4th 2007 by ceolachan

"Lochiel's Rant" / "Lochiel's Awa' Tae France"

"The Athole Collection" ~ John Stewart Robertson, 1884

K: A Dorian
|: G |
eA A/A/A e2 dc | BG G/G/G Bddg | eA A/A/A e2 dc | BGAB gee :|
g |
dega bgab | gd d/d/d gddg | dega bgab | ge e/e/e geeg |
dega bgab | gd d/d/d gddg | bgae degB | BA A/A/A gee ||

As usual, between this and 'The Skye Collection' there's not much difference...

# Posted on March 5th 2007 by ceolachan

C - P.M. G.S. McLennan's arrangement is a beauty. You can hear it in lt full midified glory here: http://chrsouchon.free.fr/lochipip.mid

You can hear an arrangement, of 'questionable' aesthetics, of the Aird setting, here: http://chrsouchon.free.fr/lofrance.mid
If you must listen to this one, I recommend doing so with a good pair of earplugs installed.

# Posted on March 5th 2007 by granama

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-O

# Posted on March 5th 2007 by ceolachan

I'm worried for you spoon...

# Posted on March 5th 2007 by ceolachan

I did warn you, C.

"'questionable' aesthetics"

Actually, make that 'unquestionably lacking in aesthetics'.


In addition to the suggeted relationship between this tune and The Lougheil March http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/6884 (see comments for that tune - I would not care to say which came first. Do we walk before we can dance or do we dance before we can walk?), I have noticed a similarty between this reel and The Old Maids of Galway http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/978 . Admittedly, it was an alternative title for that, Paddy's Gone to France, that alerted me to it - maybe I am confusing similarities in titles with actual musical similarities. But the fact remains, whether or not I am delusional, I can hear it.

The evolution of the title seems plausible. The name 'Lochiel' might have some signifiacance inThe Glens of Antrim. Moving down to Cavan or Fermanagh, it is just a slightly exotic name. By the time we get to Sligo or Galway, it makes more sense to change the subject to some familiar character, like the ubiquitous 'Paddy'.

Dow is also right, the A-part bears similarities with The Laurel Tree. Perhaps it is no accident that 'Laurel' sounds a bit like 'Lochiel'.... no, on second thoughts, that's starting to get silly.

But, perhaps the conclusion to draw is, all tunes are related. It never ceases to amaze me how big the world is, and yet, how small it is.

# Posted on March 7th 2007 by granama

:-) ~ is it shrinking?

# Posted on April 24th 2007 by ceolachan

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