Key signature: Gmajor
Submitted on May 11th 2004 by jdave.
This tune has been added to 16 tunebooks.
Also known as An Chearc Ar Fad 's A' T-anraith, An Chearc Ar Fad Is An TAnraith, Charming Lovely Nancy, The Whole Chicken In The Soup.
Recordings of a tune by this name:
X: 1
T: An Chearc Ar Fad Is An Anairthe
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: slide
K: Gmaj
g2d ded B2G GAG|ABA DEF G2B def|
g2d ded B2G GAG|ABA DEF GAG ~G3:|
~d3 d^cd ~b3 bag|~a3 e2f ~g3 edB|
~d3 d^cd ~b3 bag|~a3 e2f gag g2B:|
Jig or Slide??
I learnt this tune originally as simply "Kerry Slide" but the set that it was in is labeled 'single jigs' and it does sound more like a jig than a slide. So I submitted it as a jig. Corrections, clarifications, or lawsuits are welcome
-Jonathan
# Posted on May 11th 2004 by jdave
Slide
I'd say it's a slide for sure.
I've taken the liberty of changing the details and ABC accordingly: feel free to change them back if you're sure it should be a jig.
It's definitely got that slidiness to its rhythm though.
# Posted on May 11th 2004 by Jeremy
Thanks, Jeremy. I can't argue with an expert! :
# Posted on May 11th 2004 by jdave
I'm sure this has been discussed a billion times before, but what is the difference between a jig and slide? the time signature? the 'slidiness'?
# Posted on May 11th 2004 by jdave
One way to tell it's a slide is to look at the time signature. If it's a slide it will say 12/8 instead of 6/8. But this isn't reliable, and if there's no sheet music -- how can you tell? It wasn't until I began playing for set dancers that the distinction revealed itself to me. If you imagine playing a hornpipe a little slower and with a dotted rhythm, (dum... de dum... de dum... de dum...) and then keep that rhythm in your head and fit the slide into it -- you'll have a slide. It's not simply a fast jig, but rather something more like a slow, dotted hornpipe. If you try this with a regular jig it will feel awkward and seem like there’s too many notes. For this reason many slides find their way into the ITM lexicon as jigs because they were easier to play and useful for beginners.
Often guitar players would try to accompany slides as if they were fast jigs, but to my ear -- it doesn't sound right. It's better if they follow it as the slow-ish dotted "ka-chunk ka-chunk" sort of thing... if at all.
# Posted on May 11th 2004 by Phantom Button
"something like slow dotted hornpipes"
Aren't hornpipes already dotted, as in swing eighths? Or do you mean dotted on top of the already dotted? A dotted dotted hornpipe?
# Posted on May 12th 2004 by jdave
Around here hornpipes seemed to be played slow and with a dotted rhythm, (like my example for finding a slide rhythm above). But I used to always wonder why the fellas from Ireland played them faster and with a more even rhythm, or maybe just a slight swing. When I started playing for set dancers it all came in focus after seeing the way they dance to them. If I played it in the old way, slow and dotted, they couldn't dance very easily. But when I played them more like how I heard them on recordings or from the visiting Irish musicians -- they worked perfectly.
# Posted on May 12th 2004 by Phantom Button
tAnraith / t-anraith (Anriath = broth, soup)
~ pronounced, at times ~ tAirthe / t-áirthe
Anyone else out there with another take on this?
anairthe / aniart = course linen / canvas
I suppose from that you could translate this as ~
"The Whole Chicken in the Bag" ~ ?
chearc / cearc = hen, female
ar fad = long, whole
I need to review what little Irish I've had or have and revamp that and stretch it a little... I've always loved the old colloquial phrases, and the songs, it is about time I gave them greater consideration...
# Posted on April 13th 2008 by ceolachan