Key signature: Adorian
Submitted on October 22nd 2003 by swisspiper.
This tune has been added to 97 tunebooks.
Also known as Laridé, Laridé à Six Temps.
Recordings of a tune by this name:
X: 1
T: Gavotte
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: slide
K: Ador
|: AEAB c2 Bc dc A2 | AEAB c2 Bc dc A2 :|
| e2 Ae-eAcA BdcA | e2 Ae-eAcA Bc A2 |
e2 Ae-eAcA BdcA | e2 Ae-eAcA Bc A2 |
Gavotte / Laride
This is the tune called 'Gavotte' on the first Lunasa recording Track1, second tune.
Donogh Henessy has found out later it is a Laride known from the breton group Kornog.
Although to my knowledge a laride is a dance tune in 4/4 with 8 bars per part the notation here is useful to learn the tune as Lunasa played it.
As Lunasa recorded it, it is part of the tradition now, isn't it?
# Posted on October 22nd 2003 by swisspiper
3/2 would have been a better time signature - 12/8 suggests 4 groups of three 1/8-notes per bar, like a slide or single jig, which this is clearly not.
I don't know much about Breton dance music, but other breton tunes in 3/2 certainly exist.
# Posted on October 23rd 2003 by CreadurMawnOrganig
12/8 is a good time signature for a gavotte. 4/4 could have been right as well. One of the things that make Gavottes dances interesting is actually this balance between binary and ternary, so if the key signature is 12/8, you shall make it a bit more binary, it does not have to sound like a slide or a jig.
Gavotte (Dans tro in Breton) is cool stuff to dance.
# Posted on October 24th 2003 by Robinson
Laridé à six temps (3/2) - as mentioned in the original contribution above - not a gavotte.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by ceolachan
Kissin' cousins, close genetically speaking:
T: Laridé à six temps
M: 3/2
L: 1/8
K: Bdor
|:BABc d2 cd ed c2|BABc d2 cd ed c2:|
|:FBBG A2 B2 cBAG|FBBG A2 B2 cA B2:|
- and can be found with descriptions for the dance and other tunes in:
"The Breton Dance & Tune Book"
compiled by Dave Shepherd
Dragonfly Music, 1989
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by ceolachan
Definitely a ridée à six temps
...or ridée in 6 time. This one is quite a common tune in the Breton tradition. There are dozens of versions of it. Here's one I do:
X:1
T:Ridée 6 temps
M:6/4
L:1/8
K:Em
A3/2G/A3/2B/ c2 B3/2c/d3/2c/ B2 |1A3/2G/A3/2B/ c2 B3/2c/d3/2c/ B2 :|2A3/2G/A3/2B/ c2 B3/2c/d3/2c/B3/2d/ ::c2 A2 G3/2A/ B3/2d/c3/2B/A3/2B/ |c2 A2 G3/2A/ B3/2d/c3/2B/A3/2B/ :|
You will find ridée 6 temps normally written in, well, 6 time. This may tend to confuse Irish musicians who might be tempted to do 2 groups of 3. But it the pattern on a ridée à six temps is 3 groups of 2. There are also ridée à huit (8) temps, laridées (in 4 or 6) and simply "ridées" (also in 4). The terminology depends upon how close you are to the French border.
P.S. I can't magine how a gavotte could possibly be written in 12/8. The entire point of the gavotte is the stress on the 7th beat. Write it out in 12 and you got a big mess on your hands. Also, "Dans tro" simply means a "dance from the region of..." e.g.: "dans tro gavotte" (a dance from the region where gavottes are common) or "dans tro plinn" (a dance from the plinn region), etc. Sorry to be so anal, but this stuff is important to me.
# Posted on July 19th 2005 by laridee
Not 'anal', very welcomed, valued comment. I like your 'version' too, if not the ABCs that way. I have seen it notated as you've mentioned it, "3 groups of 2", or 3/2. I find it easier to follow it simplified, with or without the swing notated, the first examples are without the '>', in order to make reading it easier:
T:Ridée 6 temps
M:6/4
L:1/8
K:Em
|: AG AB c2 Bc dc B2 |1 AG AB c2 Bc dc B2 :|
2 AG AB c2 Bc dc Bd ||
|: c2 A2 GA Bd cB AB | c2 A2 GA Bd cB AB :|
M:3/2:
|: AGAB c2 Bc dc B2 |1 AGAB c2 Bc dc B2 :|
2 AGAB c2 Bc dcBd ||
|: c2 A2 GABd cBAB | c2 A2 GABd cBAB :|
& with ~ '>' = 3-to-2, the usual if swung:
|: A>GA>B c2 B>c d>c B2 |1 A>GA>B c2 B>c d>c B2 :|
2 A>GA>B c2 B>c d>cB>d ||
|: c2 A2 G>AB>d c>BA>B | c2 A2 G>AB>d c>BA>B :|
# Posted on July 19th 2005 by ceolachan