Key signature: Dmajor
Submitted on February 15th 2003 by Caoimhin.
This tune has been added to 215 tunebooks.
Also known as Dawning Of The Day, The Dawning Of The Day March, Fainne Geal An Lae, Raglan Road.
Recordings of a tune by this name:
X: 1
T: Dawning Of The Day, The
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
D2E2 |F4 F4 F4 E2F2 |A4 A4 B4 A2F2 |D4 E4 D4 D4 |D12 A4 |B6 A2 [C,,,,,12B4] d4 |F6 E2 D4 F4 |A4 F4 d4 F4 |E12 A4 |B6 A2 B4 d4 |F6 E2 D4 F4 |A4 F4 d4 F4 |E12 D2E2 |F4 F4 F4 E2F2 |A4 A4 B4 A2F2 |D4 F4 E4 D4 D4 z8 |D12 z4 |]
Timing
Help i'm confused. Its meant to be in 3/4 waltz time but there are 4 beats per bar!
# Posted on February 15th 2003 by IanR
Timing
Really! It's actually a March but that option is not provided when a tune is submitted. I classified as a Waltz as the next best option.
# Posted on February 15th 2003 by Caoimhin
A waltz is always in 3/4, no exceptions in ITM. If there are 4 beats in the bar it cannot be a waltz, again no exceptions. Since thesession.org database doesn't define a march by a particular time signature (actually you can't - a march can be in almost any time signature) you've got to choose, for the purposes of the database format, a permitted tune format with 4 beats in the bar - reel, barndance, or hornpipe. In this instance the most suitable option for me would be the barndance. That doesn't mean that the tune is now a barndance, it just means that the database is now happy. What you do then, as you've already done, is to post a comment telling everybody that the tune is really a march.
The time signature needs to be changed to 4/4 and the tune type from waltz to e.g. barndance. Is this possible at this stage for us punters, or does Jeremy have to delve into the system?
# Posted on February 15th 2003 by lazyhound
Raglan Road
Caoimhin,is this not the tune that the song/poem 'raglan road' is often sung to?
i would be interested to know the origin of this tune,if you or anyone else knows.
by the way,the van morrison/chieftains version of the above is more in 3/4 time than anything else so perhaps posting this march with a waltz time signature is a rare case of having your cake and eating it!
# Posted on February 15th 2003 by biggus dave
Missing bar line
Whatever kind of tune this is, you're missing a bar line in the last line. I believe the full measure rest is unnecessary. And because of the pickup notes, you won't need to put any more than the last dotted half note in the final measure.
# Posted on February 15th 2003 by mvhplank
I think the poster of the tune can alter the ABC that's been posted (time signature, tune type, missing bar lines etc in this case), but I don't know whether the alterations are automatically reflected in the sheetmusic. You can but try!
# Posted on February 16th 2003 by lazyhound
Lets call it a polonaise and be done with - a spaghetti one, at that.
# Posted on February 16th 2003 by ragaman
Faiine Geal an Lae
For many years I have only known this tune as a march which is nearly always associated with beginners - it's a very common starter tune particularly for young whistle players which probably accounts for it being a definite "no-no" in session circles! However, having heard the song version (Raglan Road - I think the singer was the late great Luke Kelly) my appreciation of the melody, when expressed with feeling and taste, has been totally transomed for the better.
# Posted on February 16th 2003 by Bannerman
Hmm, now we have a 2/4 polka with 4 quarter notes per bar. Gradually getting there.
# Posted on February 16th 2003 by lazyhound
Hmm
Not all of the abc file can be edited. I could not change the meter to 4/4.
# Posted on February 17th 2003 by Caoimhin
You shouldn't have changed the ABC at all. I changed the tune type to polka because the tune was in 2/4.
Now the ABC no longer matches.
# Posted on February 17th 2003 by Jeremy
Apologys
Boy am I sorry that I posted this at all. The tune is one that I learned at a session for beginners and I posted it because I wanted a copy in my tune book. I am sorry that I assumed that I could participate with such greatness as is found on this site. I'll find another way to learn and progress and won't bother you any more. My sincerest apologies to all.
# Posted on February 17th 2003 by Caoimhin
I shouldn't worry about it overmuch, Caoimhin. No reason why we shouldn't have this tune here -- it may not be much of a regular session tune, but it is indeed one of the first tunes that most Irish players learn -- and it's handy to teach certain things with. It's only one person's opinion, after all.
Zina
# Posted on February 17th 2003 by Zina Lee
Anyone who's got nothing nice to say: Zina said recently to go and sit by her!
# Posted on February 18th 2003 by Dow
Yes, but keep in mind that what that might mainly get you is a slap upside the head... *snort*
# Posted on February 18th 2003 by Zina Lee
Origin
to answer big daves question, its and old gaelic melody that a poet put words to. not unlike yeats putting words to the sally gardens.
# Posted on August 26th 2004 by irish_fiddler2
Get up in the morning, slaving for bread, sir,
M: 4/4
L: 1/4
R: polka
K: Dmaj
|: D/E/ |F F F E/F/ |A A B A/F/ |D E D C | D3 A |
B>A B/c/ d | F>E D F |A F d F | E3 A |
B>A B d |F>E D F |A F d F | E3 D/E/ |
F F F E/F/ |A A B A/F/ |D E D C |D3 :|
K: Gmaj
|: G/A/ | B B B A/B/ | d d e d/B/ | G>B A>F | G3 (3Bcd |
e>d e/f/ g | B/>c/ B/A/ G>B | d B g B | A3 (3Bcd |
e>d e g | B>A G B | d>B g B | A3 G/A/ |
B B B A/B/ | d>d e d/B/ | G B A F | G3 :|
& ~ K: Amaj
# Posted on May 13th 2005 by ceolachan
Origin
Hard to believe i'm posting 2 years after this thread started (i'm new on here)!
I just searched for this tune under Fainne Geal an Lae (literally Bright Ring of the day) having heard Steve Cooney play a wonderful version which comes across as quite different to the standard tune when on guitar (see RTE late session concerts at http://www.rte.ie/radio1/story/1015109.html). Steve says in intro that it came from the Goodman collection of old pipe tunes. Oh and I've heard Richard Thompson's lovely version with new lyrics, the Dimming of the Day.
# Posted on May 13th 2005 by beanbuile
Song versions
Hi all Im new to this site, I first came accross this tune in an old collection of pipe tunes, "David Glens Irish collection" other than Raglan Road there is also a song by Andrew Hunter set to this tune called Kilbowie Hill
# Posted on September 5th 2006 by kilbarchan
"Dawning of the Day" ~ first things first ~ the original transcription cleaned up
X: 1
T: Dawning Of The Day, The
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: march
K: D Major
DE |\
F2 F2 F2 EF | A2 A2 B2 AF | D2 E2 D2 D2 | D6 A2 |
B3 A B2 d2 | F3 E D2 F2 | A2 F2 d2 F2 | E6 A2 |
B3 A B2 d2 | F3 E D2 F2 | A2 F2 d2 F2 | E6 DE |
F2 F2 F2 EF | A2 A2 B2 AF | D2 F2 E2 D2 | D6 |]
# Posted on January 30th 2008 by ceolachan
"The Dawning of the Day" ~ duplication, almost as was, then 'adjusted' for sense
Key signature: D Major
Submitted on January 30th 2008 by oxfords1.
~ tunes/display/8198
X: 1134
T: Dawning Of The Day (note Correction), The
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Dmaj
D2E2F4F4F4|E2F2A4A4B4|A2F2D4E4D4|D2D8|A4B6A2B4|d4F6E2D4|F4G2A4F6|d4F4E8|
F2A2B6A2B4|d4F6E2D4|F4G2A4F6|d4F4E8|D2E2F4F4F4|E2F2A4A4B4|A2F2D4E4D4|D2D12
X: 1134
~ Huh?! (little difference)
T: Dawning Of The Day, The
N: "(note Correction)" ~
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: march
K: D Major
DE |\
F2 F2 F2 EF | A2 A2 B2 AF | D2 E2 D2 D2 | D6 A2 |
B3 A B2 d2 | F3 E D2 FG | AF- F2 d2 F2 | E6 FA |
B3 A B2 d2 | F3 E D2 FG | AF- F2 d2 F2 | E6 DE |
F2 F2 F2 EF | A2 A2 B2 AF | D2 E2 D2 D2 | D6 |]
# Posted on January 30th 2008 by ceolachan
The Dawning Of The Day
Several clips on youtube of Luke Kelly singing Raglan Road. This one starts with Patrick Kavanagh who wrote the words:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kBndHNJoC0k
Robin Williamson's 'The Penny Whistle Book' says "Its authorship is attributed to Thomas Connelan, the harper, born at Cloonmahon, County Sligo, around 1640. His name for the tune was The Golden Star" but googling about a bit picks up some doubts about that.
Williamson gives a setting in Amix "based on a bagpipe slow march version". Several of such on youtube. One basic rendering here (after the initial solo): http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWJpTBZ-Wgc
X: 1
T: Dawning Of The Day, The
M: 4/4
N: Final f held for 3 beats last time only.
L: 1/8
R: march
K:Amix
AB|\
c2 c2 c2 Bc|e2 e2 f2 ec|A2 cB A2 B2|A6 e2|
f3 e f2 a2 |c3 B A2 cd |e2 c2 a2 c2|B6 ce|
f3 e f2 a2 |c3 B A2 cd |e2 c2 a2 c2|B6 AB|
c2 c2 c2 Bc|e2 e2 f2 ec|A2 cB A2 B2|A6|
(and all I was doing was looking for a tune to give my C#s a workout)
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by david_h
And as for the Luke Kelly version - if you've got the words, why do you need the dots !
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2006/nov/12/poetry.features
# Posted on January 5th 2009 by david_h
Dawning of the Day
Its getting played more and more by Scottish Pipe Bands these days which lets you know how far that culture has come.
I started playing the pipes in 1973 and competed in every grade right up to Grade one with one of the best bands of the lot.
For most of that time I wouldn't say Irish culture was celebrated in any way. I was at the Worlds a couple of years ago and nearly dropped dead when I saw a young guy there in a Celtic Strip! How times change.
# Posted on March 3rd 2009 by Davy B