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Tommy Peoples'

mazurka

Key signature: Dmajor

Submitted on January 13th 2003 by milesnagopaleen.

This tune has been added to 81 tunebooks.

Also known as Doherty's, The Donegal, Francie Mooney's, James Byrne's, Johnny Doherty's, Kitty's Fancy, Phroinsias', Proinsias Ó Maonaigh's, Rachel On The Rock, Rachel On The Rocks, Tommy's, Varsovienne.

Recordings of a tune by this name:

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X: 1
T: Tommy Peoples'
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
R: mazurka
K: Dmaj
|:FG|AF A2 dc|BG B2 ef|ge cA Bc|BA F2 FG|
AF A2 dc|BG B2 ef|ge cA Bc|d4:|
|:fg|af dA cd|c2 B2 ef|ge cA Bc|BA F2 fg|
af dA cd|c2 B2 ef|ge cA Bc|d4 :||

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Tommy Peoples' sheetmusic
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Since many mazurka's in the Irish trad repertoire don't have official names, I wonder how these postings will link to recordings. You can hear this tune, however, on Kevin Crawford's "In Good Company" cd, played with Tommy Peoples (track 15) in a set of mazurkas.

Nice post C!

# Posted on January 13th 2003 by Will CPT

I learned this tune many years ago from a fiddle playing friend from Clare. He got it from Tommy Peoples. I don't know if it was composed by Tommy Peoples but I suspect so.
Will,
As you can see many of the links to recordings will be spurious owing to the title. The same applies to Sonny's mazurka (a.k.a. Vincent Campbell's, a.k.a. any Donegal fiddler you can think of). Three gold stars to anyone who wants to do the research!

# Posted on January 13th 2003 by milesnagopaleen

I learny this mazurka from Tommy Peoples' fiddle tutor book some years ago - it was titled Doherty's mazurka suggesting that it may have originally come from the great Donegal fiddler, Johnny Doherty.

# Posted on January 13th 2003 by Bannerman

Thanks for the name, Bannerman. I hope my setting wasn't too far off the mark.

# Posted on January 13th 2003 by milesnagopaleen

I've seen this mazurka, and a similar one in G, attributed to Phroinsias O'Maonaigh. Don't know if he is responisble for them or not, but they work great together and we often play them as part of a set. I picked them up from "Fiddlesticks, ITM from Donegal" CD Nimbus 5320, track 13.

I can post the transcription from that performance (it's slightly different from this posting), and the second mazurka if anyone's interested.

ScottC

# Posted on January 13th 2003 by ScottC

I'd be interested in the "Fiddle Sticks" Version, How about everyone else?

# Posted on January 13th 2003 by Dafydd Monks

I posted the first mazurka from Fiddlesticks (variation of the one listed here) as Phroinsias' Mazurka#1. Will post the second one tomorrow. I think I found these transcriptions somewhere on the web after I learned the tunes from the CD, and they are both very close, if not identical, to the recording.

# Posted on January 14th 2003 by ScottC

Variant of the Tommy Peoples Mazurka

K: Dmaj
DF|:"D"AF A2dc|"G"BG B2ed|"A"cB c2BA|"D"F2F2DF|"D"AF A2dc|"G"BG B2ed|
"A"cB c2BA|[1"D"d2d2DF:|[2"D"d2d2fg||"D"af d2A2|"G"c2B2ef|"A"ge c2A2|
"D"Bc A2fg|"D"af d2A2|"G"c2B2ef|"A"gecABc|[1"D"d2d2fg:|[2"D"D2D4|]

This is a variant of the Tommy Peoples mazurka.
As Scott mentioned elswhere it appears on track 13 of "Fiddlesticks - Irish Traditional Music from Donegal" (Nimbus NI1752) played by M�ir�ad N� Mhaonaigh and Proinsias O'Maonaigh where it is the first in a set simply entitled "Two Mazurkas"
The Ds in the final bar should, I think, be an octave higher.

# Posted on January 15th 2003 by milesnagopaleen

Second of these two mazurkas is posted. Also, my red-faced apologies to Jeremy for including a number in the title on the first one, which he had to strip out.

# Posted on January 15th 2003 by ScottC

Correction

Correction Nimbus NI 5320 (NI1752 is the boxed set "From a Distant Shore" Irish & Cape Breton Traditional Music of which Fiddlesticks is CD #1)

# Posted on January 15th 2003 by milesnagopaleen

Vs & Ms - - - & the Geography of Forms

Here's this one played with an emphatic Varsovienne definition/phrasing, the 'long' and the 'short' of it:

|:DF A2 A2|dc B2 B2|ef ge cA|Bc B2 A2|
DF A2 A2|dc B2 B2|ef ge cA|Bc d2 d2:|

|:fg af dF|Ad c2 B2|
ef ge cA|Bc B2 A2|
fg af dF|Ad c2 B2|
ef ge cA|Bc d2 d2:|

& some variants:

A-part, bars 1-4:

|:DF AD FA|dc BE GB|ef (3gfe cA|Bc (3BcB A2| -

|:DF AD FA|dc BE GB|ed (3cdc (3BcB|AE F2 F2| -

A-part, second ending:

- |1 Bc d2 d2:|2 Bc d2 de||

B-part, with triplets and second ending:

|:fg af dF|Ad c2 B2|ef ge cA|Bc (3BcB A2|
fg af dF|Ad (3cdc B2|ef (3gfe cA|1 Bc d2 de:|2 Bc d2 D2||

Vs & Ms - See Jackie Donnan's for something else about this close relationship, the rough and the smooth...

I admit being a mongrel, ragged and all bark and no bite, and I've played some Northern European members of these forms as well as even Polish, including dancing them, from the aristocratic and military ball forms to those from the countryside. I've also lived and worked in Eire, though I wish I were still there, and I've danced and played these there with those more tied into this history than I, by their grace and humour, dance and music, North, South, East and West...

There's a passion to share this with others, but there will always be me in the way. If I could I would transport you to those sources rather than me. Sadly, they are no longer around and I find myself, with whatever my failings are, a connection to their greater wealth, understanding and charm. I can only hope I've given some of that and you find it valuable. I do try to filter out as much as I can of myself, but that really is impossible to do completely, as it is in Journalism or any writing. Best

# Posted on July 22nd 2004 by ceolachan

Another swing to it - - - found under "James Byrne's"

K:D

|:D>F|A2 F>A d>c|B2 G>B e>f|g>e c2 A2|B>A F2 D>F|
A2 F>A d>c|B>G B2 e>f|g>e c>g f>e|d4:|
|:f>g|a>f d>F A>d|(3cdc B2 e>f|g>e c>A B>c|(3BcB A2 f>g|
a2 f>d A>d|c2 B2 e>f|g>e c>g f>e|1 d3 e:|2 d4||

# Posted on July 28th 2004 by ceolachan

Armagh and the McCuskers - John and Vincent on fiddles -

#1 in a set of 3:
w/ some other variations incorporated -
|:F>G A>F A2|d>c B>^A B2|ed c>^B c2|(3ABc d>e f2|
F>G A2 A2|d>c B2 B2|e>d c2 c2|(3ABC d2 d2:|
|:f>g a>f d>e|d>c B2 G2|e>d c2 c2|(3ABc d2 d2|
f>g a>f d>e|d>c B2 G2|e>d c>^B c2|(3ABc d2 d2:|

2.) http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/3499

3.) http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/3293

To add to confusions in names (polkas/barndances) Mazurkas were sometimes referred to by other names, including 'Polka-Mazurka' (a particular couple dance, another mazurka variation), 'Polkas' and 'Polkies'.

# Posted on September 14th 2004 by ceolachan

Is this really on the Joannie Madden CD? The link to "Johnny Doherty's" in the discography goes to a completely different tune.

# Posted on August 22nd 2005 by Peter K

T: 'Two Mazurkas - #1'
S: Proinsias O Maonaigh/Mairead Ni Mhaonaigh
S: Fiddle Sticks CD, Nimbus NI 5320, 1991
K: Dmaj

|: DF |
AF A2 dc | BG B2 ed | cB c2 BA | FE F2 DF |
AF A2 dc | BG B2 ed |c2 cA Bc | d3 d :|
|: ef |
af d3 A | c3 B ef | ge c3 A | Bc A A ef |
af d3 A | c3 B ef | ge cA Bc | d3 d :|

they follow it with another in G, I'd like to transcribe it, too, unless it's already here?

# Posted on February 5th 2006 by gravelwalks

yup. and the one in G right here

http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/1332

they make a nice set, very melody driven, not too many frills.

# Posted on February 5th 2006 by gravelwalks

Go here for a varsovienne take on this *with a name*! http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/3298.

# Posted on April 29th 2007 by Dow

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