Key signature: Gmixolydian
Submitted on December 6th 2002 by Dr. Dow.
This tune has been added to 37 tunebooks.
Also known as Elsie Marlie, Elsie Marly.
Recordings of a tune by this name:
X: 1
T: Elsie Marley
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
R: jig
K: Gmix
|:BAB ~G3|G2g gdc|BAB ~G3|A2f fcA|
BAB ~G3|gag gdB|cac BgB|A2f fcA:|
|:B2c ~d3|de^f gdc|B2c ~d3|~A3 =fcA|
B2c ~d3|de^f gdB|cac BgB|A2=f fcA:|
|:G2g gdB|gdB gdB|G2g gdB|fgf fcA|
G2g gdB|gdB gdB|cac BgB|A2f fcA:|
Elsie (Alice) Marley was an innkeeper's wife in the Swan in Picktree, County Durham in the 1700's. Apparently she was quite a character, and some stories of her life and death have been documented - fortunate that this was so otherwise the origins of this tune would have been lost, and its Northumbrian origins might have been forgotten. This jig is usually played in pubs in the Northeast as an instrumental, but it is in fact a song, which is often used in competitions since it is fast and full of leaps of 6ths etc. The words and more info about the song are available at http://www.folkinfo.org.
# Posted on December 6th 2002 by Dr. Dow
Byker Hill
I've never heard this tune but I've heard *of* it.
In the song Byker Hill, which I believe is a traditional English song, there's a reference in the refrain to dancing "... to the tune of Elsie Marley".
# Posted on December 6th 2002 by Jeremy
Yeah Byker's an area of Newcastle - I've never been there, but I've heard reports about what it's like from other people... I've never been interested in visiting the place (he said tactfully!)
# Posted on December 6th 2002 by Dr. Dow
This was one of the first traditional tunes I learnt, before Irish music came along and hogged all my brain capacity. I got it from a High Level Ranters record. I read that Elsie Marley met her fate in 1768, falling into a disused mineshaft and drowning.
I used to play it in Dmix, probably because it sat more easily on the whistle, which I played it on at the time. I remember noticing that this tune - the first part, at least - bears a passing resemblance to the Irish tune, The Rolling Waves.
# Posted on December 7th 2002 by CreadurMawnOrganig
Elsie Marley
This is the two part version that is most frequently played in North-East England. However, Robert Topliffe wrote out a three part version at the start of the 19th century which is wellworth playing.
The mention of Elsie Marley in Byker Hill is rather strange as the rhythm of the two are very different. I guess its an indication of how widely known the tune was a couple of hundred years ago.
On the geographic front, Byker is just to the East of Newcastle city centre. It has the best music traditional music pub in the North East (The Cumberland Arms), an innovative power station fueled by domestic rubbish and a European Award winning housing project. Don't knock it till you've been there!
Noel Jackson
Angels of the North
# Posted on December 8th 2002 by noelbats
3-part version
I take back everything I said and apologise unreservedly! It was a slip of the tongue honest. Divvent tek a hesh on uz man.
That 3rd part goes:
|: G2g gdB | gdB gdB | G2g g^fB | =f3 fcA | G2g gdB | gdB gdB | cac BgB | A2f fcA :|
# Posted on December 8th 2002 by Dr. Dow
...with a roll ~ on that f natural in bar 4, or alternatively =f>gf.
# Posted on December 8th 2002 by Dr. Dow
Topliff setting
Topliff's 3rd part is really old and also appears in the Vickers manuscript (1770). I made an error with that F# - Topliff had it as:
K:Gmix
|:G2g gdB|gdB gdB|G2g gdB|f>gf fcA|
G2g gdB|gdB gdB|cac BgB|A2f fcA:|
(I've cheekily added repeats in)
# Posted on August 11th 2004 by Dr. Dow
Can you not go back and edit the ABC to add this? I love third parts. I have this in my tune book but I'm scared I'm going to forget to dig up the missing piece when I sit down and learn it.
# Posted on September 19th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Kerri, if you go to "download abc" you get the full 3-parter.
# Posted on September 19th 2004 by Dr. Dow
I could, but then it's not in my online tunebook. It's probably past time I put together a tune collection on my hard drive. It's easier than keeping them all in my brain...
# Posted on September 19th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Oh, alRIGHT then *loud tut and petulant stomp of foot*
# Posted on September 19th 2004 by Dr. Dow
ABCs in tunebooks
For the record, it *is* in your tunebook. Any ABCs added in the comments to a tune will be downloaded when you download your tunebook.
# Posted on September 19th 2004 by Jeremy
Origin of tune
Don't be too sure of this tune's Northumbrian origin. It may be a distinctively localised version of the Irish jig 'The Humours of Trim'. brought over to England ata time when the Irish were comingto England's industrial regions in great numbers during the nineteenth century, Of course, the tune may be English and have gonethe other way, but who knows? A tune's status should depend on its quality, not on its provenance.
# Posted on July 2nd 2010 by richard snell
Re my last comment
Having noted just how old the tune is in Northumberland, I must reconsider my last statement. It's not invalid though; as a point of history, when did the Irish first appear In Northumberland? Or - and here'sone of those mysteries that make researching traditional music such a fascination and a pain - did they share a common source? Hmmm
# Posted on July 2nd 2010 by richard snell