Tralee Gaol

polka

Key signature: Gmajor

Submitted on November 6th 2002 by alastair wilson.

This tune has been added to 85 tunebooks.

Also known as As I Went Out Upon The Ice, Glen Cottage, Glen Cottage Polka #2, Glen Cottage Polka 2, Glen Cottage Polka No.2, The Green Cockade, The Haughs O' Cromdale, The Haughs Of Cromdale, O'Neill's March.

Recordings of a tune by this name:

• Blackthorn Ceilidh Band by Blackthorn Ceilidh Band
• Cairde Cairdín by Diarmuid O'Brien
• Cape Breton Fiddle And Piano Music by The Beatons
• Cape Breton Fiddle Music Not Calm by Howie MacDonald And Ashley MacIsaac
• Champion Of Champions by Sean Maguire
• Champions Of Ireland: Harp by Various Artists
• Cronin And Burke by Johnny Cronin And Joe Burke
• Cullen Bay by The Tannahill Weavers
• Dance Music Of Ireland: Volume 11 by Matt Cunningham
• Dance Music Of Ireland: Volume 8 by Matt Cunningham
• Fiddle Volume II by Cape Breton Symphony
• First Hand by Mairi Rankin
• From Foot Cape by Ian Mac Dougall
• Harpes D'Irlande by Katrien Delavier
• Her Mantle So Green by Margaret Barry And Michael Gorman
• Hoof And Mouth by Open House
• I'm Here Because I'm Here by Quilty
• In The Fields In Frost And Snow by Chris Norman
• In The Smoke by Various Artists
• Ireland's Best Session Tunes CD 2 by Waltons Recording
• Irish Music by Sualtam
• Jack In The Box Irish Session by Tionol
• Last Orders by Last Orders
• Live At West Mabou Hall by Howie MacDonald, Dave MacIsaac And Mac Morin
• MacMahon From Clare by Tony MacMahon
• Musical Memories by Tom Dunne And Joe Banjo Burke
• Poirt An Phiobaire by Paddy Keenan
• Southwind by Glenn Morgan
• The Ballydesmond Polka by Dan Herlihy And John Drew
• The Humours Of Lewisham, Volume Three by Aidan Crossey
• The Sliabh Luachra Fiddle Master by Padraig O'Keefe
• To Welcome Paddy Home by Boys Of The Lough
• Traditional Fiddle Music Of Cape Breton Volume 3 Bras D'Or House by Various Artists
• Traditional Music From Ireland, England, And Scotland by The Flying Cloud
• Wet Your Whistle by Wet Your Whistle

X: 1
T: Tralee Gaol
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: polka
K: Gmaj
e/2A/2 A/2B/4d/4|e3/4d/4 B/2d/2|e/2A/2 A/2B/4A/4 |G3/4A/4 B/2d/2|
e/2A/2 A/2B/4d/4|e3/4d/4 B/2d/2|e/2d/2 g/2B/2 |A A:|
e/2a/2 a/2g/4a/4|b3/4a/4 g/2e/2|d/2B/2 g/2B/2 |d/4c/4B/4A/4 G/2E/2|
e/2a/2 a/2g/4a/4|b3/4a/4 g/2e/2|e/2d/2 g/2B/2 |A A:|

Common session tune in Australia

# Posted on November 6th 2002 by alastair wilson

Numb nuts!

Lay off the crystal...

# Posted on May 16th 2005 by ceolachan

LOL!

# Posted on May 16th 2005 by Dow

Hey 'c' we all play polkas like that over here in Australia. Only the best musicians can follow us, provided that they have a generous pinch of base before the set

# Posted on May 16th 2005 by Dow

Common? Or not really in fact....

We dont ever play this tune in our session in Sydney and none of the sessions that I go to in Melbourne either.

# Posted on May 17th 2005 by shoddy fiddle player

Well Beebs it does get played over here in Perth though not by my choice and thankfully not too often.
PS: My dislike for the tune probably has more to do with how it is played.

# Posted on May 17th 2005 by Donough

yeah, I just meant that it may be a *common* session tune in some sessions, but probably not even most in Australia I'd say. Its a cr*p tune anyway - so thankfully we never play it

# Posted on May 17th 2005 by shoddy fiddle player

You shun it just cuz it's not a reel in B minor

# Posted on May 17th 2005 by Dow

Yes, I confess Dow - that is true.

# Posted on May 18th 2005 by shoddy fiddle player

Not in G Major

Yes, this tune has one sharp, but this does not make it G Major (Ionian).

It is actually a tune in A Dorian, the A scale with a flattened third and seventh. This is why is sounds like a tune in a minor scale.

# Posted on October 15th 2005 by ecadre

"Tralee Gaol" / "As I Went Out Upon the Ice" ~ Numb Nuts revisited:

First, to clear up all that black shight, I mean, 1/32nd notes?:

K: Gmaj
eA AB/d/ | e>d Bd | eA AB/A/ | G>A Bd |
eA AB/d/ | e>d Bd | ed gB | A2 A2 :|
ea ag/a/ | b>a ge | dB gB | d/c/B/A/ GE |
ea ag/a/ | b>a ge | ed gB | A2 A2 :|

& another transcription and key,
there are many and
this tune features in numerous printed collections:

K: D Major
|: BE EF/A/ | BA FA | BE EF/E/ | D>E FA |
BE EF/A/ | B/c/B/A/ FA | BA/B/ dF | FE E2 :|
|: Be ef | ed BA | Be ef | d2 d>A |
Be ef | ed B>c | dB AF | E2 E2 :|

# Posted on November 4th 2005 by ceolachan

Slide into Polka ~

From this slidified take on the melody ~

http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/5117

~ to the following:

T: Johnny O'Leary's
M: 12/8
L: 1/8
R: slide
K: Gmaj
|: B/d/ |
eA AB/d/ | ed Bd | eA AB/A/ | G>A Bd |
eA AB/d/ | BA/B/ dB | BG/B/ dB | A3 :|
|: B/d/ |
ef/g/ a>b | ag ed | Bc/d/ e>f | ga fg |
ea a>b | ag ed | BA/B/ d>B | A3 :|

# Posted on November 4th 2005 by ceolachan

A few collections where you'll find this,
but never a 1/32nd note:

"Matt Cunningham's Dance Music of Ireland"
Matt Cunningham, Dave Mallinson Publications, 1999
ISBN: 1-899512-45-A ~ page 25: Tralee Gaol
& similar to the ABCs in K: D given previously (above)...

"110 Ireland's Best Polkas and Slides"
Waltons, 1999
ISBN: 1-85720-086-1
Page 22/Tune 49: "The Glen Cottage Polka (2)"
same A-part, another take on a B-part =
~ e>d ef/g/ |ae f/e/d/B/ | d>e de/f/ | ge f/e/d | ~

"100 Irish Polkas"
Edited by Dave Mallinson
Dave Mallinson Publications, 1997
ISBN: 1-899512-21-7
Page 1/ Tune 2: "The Glen Cottage No.2"
~ same as previous...

Additional names:
"As I Went Out Upon the Ice"
"Glin Cottage Polka No. 2"
"The Green Cottage Polka No.2"
"Johnny O'Leary's"

"Irish Traditional Music Session Tunes Book 2"
Anthony Sullivan
Page 9 / Tune 21: "Tralee Gaol"
B-part =
~ ea ag/a/ | f>a ge | dB gB | d/c/B/A/ GE | ~

# Posted on November 4th 2005 by ceolachan

& a few more ways with this...

K: Gmaj
|: B/d/ |
eA Bd | e/f/e/d/ B>d | eA AB/A/ | G>A B/c/d |
eA AB/d/ | ed Bd | e/g/e/d/ gB | BA A :|
|: d |
ea zb | ag ge | dB GB | e/d/c/B/ Gd |
ea ag/a/ | b>a ge | dB gB | A2 A :|

& another

K: D Major
|: BE E/F/G/A/ | B>A FA | BE- EF/E/ | D>E FA |
BE EF/A/ | B/c/B/A/ FA | BA/B/ dF | FE E2 :|
|: Be- e>f | ed BA | Be ef | d/e/d/c/ BA |
Be ef | ed B>c | dB AF | E4 :|

# Posted on November 4th 2005 by ceolachan

Oh yeah, and in A Major too...

# Posted on November 4th 2005 by ceolachan

You know, if they really did play everything at neck-break speeds in Oz, there'd be a good market there for instrument repair people and makers... And about the 'crystal' and with my concern for 'the person' ~ body and spirit, just think of all those burnt out bodies and minds and the RSI ~ a great need for therapists physio and mental...

# Posted on November 4th 2005 by ceolachan

Another transcript of a relative ~

http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/1014

# Posted on November 6th 2005 by ceolachan

Dorian ~ Dorian ~ Dorian ~ "The Glen Cottage No.2"

I just realized I followed the same K: pattern as the original transcript given here, as 'Major', which it isn't. It is Dorian. I think I was carrying consideration for this contribution too far, after all, 32nd notes, I shouldn't be so kind. Anyway, here's another transcript knocked out of me by a recent contribution:

K: A Dorian
|: eA Bd | e/f/e/d Bd | eA AB/A/ | G>A Bd |
eA AB/d/ | ed Bd | ea e/f/e/d | BA A2 :|
|: e2 ef/g/ | ae fe | d2 de/f/ | ge fd |
e>d ef/g/ | ae f/e/d/B/ | ea e/f/e/d/ | BA A2 :|

# Posted on December 5th 2005 by ceolachan

K: E Dorian
|: FA |
BE- EF/A/ | BE FA | BE G/F/E | DD/E/ FA |
BE FA | BE FE | DD/E/ FA | FE E :|
|: A |
B>^A B^c/d/ | eB ^c/B/A/F/ | A>^G AB/^c/ | dB ^c/B/A |
B2 B^c/d/ | eB BA | Be B/^c/B/A/ | FE E2 :|

# Posted on December 5th 2005 by ceolachan

"The Glen / Glin / Green Cottage 2 / 3" ~ more relatives

Key signature: E Dorian
Submitted on December 5th 2005 by hetty.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/5278

# Posted on December 6th 2005 by ceolachan

Known very widely in Scotland as "The Haughs of Cromdale".

# Posted on December 14th 2005 by nigelg

"The Haughs o' Cromdale"

I see it is also played and sung in D Dorian... My guess is the tune was first and the Scottish lyrics put to it came later? Now you've drawn my attention to it, yes, I've heard it sung at some point in my life, a certain Scottish singer that used to regularly visit Eire...

http://sniff.numachi.com/~rickheit/dtrad/pages/tiHCROMDAL;ttHCROMDAL.html

"As I came in by Auchindoun,
A little wee bit frae the town,
When to the Highlands I was bound
To view the Haughs of Cromdale." ~

# Posted on December 15th 2005 by ceolachan

"The Haughs of Cromdale" ~ Country Dance

Damn, memories come flooding in. I've also danced this dance. Here are a few scraps from books within immediate reach ~

"Scotland's Dances" by Hugh Thurston
The Teachers' Association, Canada, 1984
Part IV: Country Dances, page 105 ~

"Country Dances of a rather different type have been collected in the Scottish countryside and published by the Scottish Country Dance Club (in 'The Border Dance Book') and the R.S.C.D.S. As might be expected, they are much less stereotyped than the ballroom dances, and have a decidedly Scottish character. Many of them are strathspeys, not merely being danced to strathspey tunes, but using schottische steps, which fit the rhythm very nicely. Good examples are 'The Oxon Reel', 'The Braes of Busby', 'The Haughs of Cromdale', 'The Duchess of Gordon's Fancy', 'Loch Erichtside' and 'The Jimp Waist', which all employ the vigorous 'highland schottische' step."

"Traditional Dancing in Scotland" by J.P. & T.M. Flett
Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1964
Part X: Some Country Dances, pages 256-257

"'The Haughs of Cromdale' ~ is one of the relatively small group of Country Dances which are in Strathspey tempo. It provides a further illustration of the use in the Country Dance of figures derived from other dance-forms, for it incorporates the movements of the Circle Dance (couples dancing around the hall) the Highland Schottische. This fact also enables us to date the dance with reasonable accuracy, for it must have been composed after the introduction of the Highland Schottische, i.e. after about 1855."

I highly recommend the work of the Fletts, superb, their research and the people behind it.

# Posted on December 15th 2005 by ceolachan

"Barrack Hill" ~ single jig / slide

Key signature: A Dorian
Submitted on October 6th 2002 by gian marco.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/1014

1728 ~ "Playford's Dancing Master"

# Posted on December 15th 2005 by ceolachan

"Johnny O'Leary's" ~ slide / single jig

Key signature: G Dorian
Submitted on October 24th 2005 by Ptarmigan.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/5117

I think there's a good argument that the single jig may have predated the strathspey, and definitely the song...

# Posted on December 15th 2005 by ceolachan

Been listening to Tony MacMahon from Clare CD again recently. Is this also not the D & E parts of O'Neill's Cavalcade and also known as The Green Cockade?

# Posted on May 3rd 2006 by the wounded hussar

"The Battle Of Yellow Ford"

Submitted on January 4th 2003 by ScottC.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/1287

# Posted on May 13th 2006 by ceolachan

"Fish And Taters" ~ 3-in-1, the middle in the set being "Tralee Gaol"

Key signatures: D Major / E Dorian / E Dorian
Submitted on May 1st 2004 by hetty.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/2928

In extraction:

K: E Dorian
|: BE EF/A/ | BA B/c/d | BE EF/E/ | D>E FA |
BE EF/A/ | BA B/c/d | BA dF | F/E/D E2 :|
|: Be ed/e/ | f>e dA | Be ed/e/ | f>e dc |
Be ed/e/ | f/g/f/e/ dA | BA dF | F/E/D E2 :|

Submitted on May 1st 2004 by hetty.

# Posted on July 24th 2006 by ceolachan

"The Haughs Of Cromdale" ~ strathspey - the elder?

Key signature: E Dorian & A Dorian
Submitted on July 27th 2006 by ceolachan.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/6031

# Posted on July 27th 2006 by ceolachan

"The Merry Maid's Wedding" ~ strathspey / reel - another relative

Key signature: A Dorian & E Dorian
Submitted on July 27th 2006 by ceolachan.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/6035

# Posted on July 27th 2006 by ceolachan

"As I Went Out Upon The Ice" ~ more in the family

Key signature: A Dorian
Submitted on July 23rd 2007 by ceolachan.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/7528
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/7528/comments

# Posted on March 18th 2008 by ceolachan