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Bantry Bay

hornpipe

Key signature: Gmajor

Submitted on October 20th 2002 by lazyhound.

This tune has been added to 70 tunebooks.

Also known as The Bantry Bay, Cuain Beantraige, The Little Stack Of Wheat, The Little Stacks Of Wheat, The Union .

Recordings of a tune by this name:

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X: 1
T: Bantry Bay
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: hornpipe
K: Gmaj
GA|BG AG EG (3DEF|G2 (3AGF GB AG|EG AB cB AG|(3ABA GB A2 AB|
~c3A ~B3G|AB AG EG DG|~B3G AG EG|(3FED B,D G2 GA|
BG AG EG (3DEF|G2 (3AGF GB AG|EG AB cB AG|(3ABA GB A2 AB|
ce cA Bd BG| AB AG EG DG|~B3G AG EG|(3FED B,D G2 AB||
|:d2 dB dB GB|(3efe ^df e2 ef|{a}gf ed BA Bd|(3gag fa g2 ef|
ga (3bag ef ed|{Bc}BA GB AG EG|~B3G AG EG|(3FED B,D G4:||

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Bantry Bay sheetmusic
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Bantry Bay

This is an old version by Martin Byrnes.

# Posted on October 20th 2002 by lazyhound

Stacks of Wheat?

Where else is this HP referred to as Stack(s) of Wheat? Besides this site?

# Posted on August 27th 2007 by cocus

That's a plain mistake, I believe.

# Posted on August 27th 2007 by slainte

"Bantry Bay" / "The Little Stack Of Wheat" ~ ah the failure of memory

Key signature: G Major
Submitted on August 30th 2006 by cferrie.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/6145

It seems to have started here, with a duplication... Maybe someone should ask cferrie where he sourced the name? :-/

# Posted on August 27th 2007 by ceolachan

He tells you in the comments.

# Posted on August 27th 2007 by Dow

No Mark, glad to see you are awake and functioning, but he doesn't. He says he transcribed it from this album:

Andy Irvine / Paul Brady
http://www.thesession.org/recordings/display/421
track 10: "Martinmas Time"

But ~ that 'he knew it by the name "The Little Stack of Wheat"...

Common yuh crip, put up your dukes! 8-)

# Posted on August 27th 2007 by ceolachan

I was just about to drop you a line, after a night's struggle with security software gum-ups. That's another long running moan... :-/

# Posted on August 27th 2007 by ceolachan

Right. So he got the title off the Andy Irvine & Paul Brady album, no?

Track 10: Martinmas Time / The Little Stack Of Wheat

# Posted on August 27th 2007 by Dow

"The Stack of Wheat" / "The Little Stack of Wheat"

Yes, nit picky aren't we both today ~ he gives the title used as from the recording but adds ~ "but I know this one simply as The Stack of Wheat." So, he had prior knowledge of a name of this order before he heard the album and added the transcription...

As said, best ask, so I'll drop cferrie a line and see what comes of it... :-/

# Posted on August 27th 2007 by ceolachan

What is the earliest recording and/or transcription of this particular hornpipe melody and under what name?? ;-)

# Posted on August 27th 2007 by ceolachan

"Bantry Bay" ~ tune #1573 ~ "O'Neill Music of Ireland: 1850 Melodies", 1903

The Fiddler's Companion ~
http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/BAN_BARM.htm

Collector and compiler Captain Francis O'Neill was quite taken by the tune, calling it "one of the most delightful traditional hornpipes in existence." ~ O'Neill learned the tune from an accomplished West Clare flute player (and Chicago police patrolman) named Patrick "Big Pat" O'Mahony, a man of prodigious physique of whom he said: "the 'swing' of his execution was perfect, but instead of 'beating time' with his foot on the floor like most musicians he was never so much at ease as when seated in a chair tilted back against a wall, while both feet swung rhythmically like a double pendulum" [O'Neill, Irish Folk Music].

# Posted on August 27th 2007 by ceolachan

'c', you've misinterpreted what he said, I think, when he said "this one". He was referring to a completely different tune on the database http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/785.

I know you really really want me to be wrong, but you must know by now I'm always right and there's no point in arguing with me ;-)

# Posted on August 28th 2007 by Dow

Clarification (I hope)

I know http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/785 as "The Stack of Wheat" - I learnt it donkey's years ago in Galway...

...and I know http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/6145 as "The Little Stack of Wheat" which I learnt from the Paul Brady/Andy Irvine Album. When I posted this tune I thought I had done a thorough search to check for duplication only to discover later that it was already posted as "Bantry Bay" and there was an alternative title of "The Little Stacks of Wheat" - I don't know where this alternative title came from but it had nothing to do with me :-)

# Posted on August 28th 2007 by cferrie

Thanks cferrie, now we have your word and explanation on it I can rest in peace and stop poking Dow in the ribs... ;-)

# Posted on August 28th 2007 by ceolachan

Paul Brady & Andy Irvine ~ oh sweet mystery...

Yes, with regards to tune #785, "The Stack of Wheat", you were right Dow. I know I was confusing, what's new, eh? What I was really wanting to know is now cleared, whether or not the Brady/Irvine recording was cferrie's sole source for his notation and the name he'd given this melody. I was curious to know if he had another association with it. Now I know that it may be only Paul Brady and Andy Irvine who may be responsible for attaching this name to this melody... :-/

# Posted on August 28th 2007 by ceolachan

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