Key signature: Gmajor
Submitted on April 19th 2010 by ceolachan.
This tune has been added to 13 tunebooks.
Also known as Men Of The West, Rosin The Beau, Rosin The Bow.
Recordings of a tune by this name:
X: 1
T: Men Of The West, The
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
R: waltz
K: Gmaj
|: D2 | G4 F>G | B2 (3ABA G2 | d6 | e3 f g2 | d3 c B>A | (3GAG A2 F2 | E6 | F4 (3DEF |
G3 D G2 | B2 A2 G2 | d3 G d2 | e4 d>c | B4 G2 | A4 G>A | G6- | G4 :|
|: B>c | d4 e>d | d2 B2 d2 | e4 c2 | g4 d2 | B4 A2 | G2 F2 D2 | E6 | F4 D2 |
G3 A G2 | B2 A2 (3GAG | d3 G d2 | e4 d>c | B4 G2 | A3 ^G A2 | G6- | G4 :|
"The Men of the West" ~ also played as a waltz in the keys of A & D
I know this is here as a jig, but it also has a long history as a waltz too, including a version played by Michael Coleman and following the waltz "Mrs. Kenny's"...
Here's the jig in the database ~
Submitted on August 22nd 2007 by Martin_BC.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/7639
# Posted on April 19th 2010 by ceolachan
I would have transcribed the Coleman take on this, but I haven't it on hand. I believe he played it high, in the key of D Major and stretching to the third octave d'...
# Posted on April 19th 2010 by ceolachan
I have a tapeofatape of Coleman's recording and it is in D with a 3rd position shift in the B part.
He stopped after only 24 bars, I think because the 3 part Mrs. Kenny's used up the clock. It's played in a lovely less-is-more style, an approach not always associated with Coleman.
# Posted on April 19th 2010 by edl
"Rosin the Bow" ~ a take in A
X: 2
T: Rosin the Bow
M: 1/4
L: 1/8
R: waltz
K: AMaj
E2 |\
A2 B2 A2 | c3 B A2 | f6 | a4 f2 | e2 c2 A2 | A3 B c2 | F6 | F4 E2 |
A3 G A2 | c2 B2 A2 | f6 | a4 gf | e2 c2 A2 | B2 A2 G2 | A6- | A4 ||
cd |\
e2 c2 e2 | e3 f g2 | a6 | a4 gf | e3 c A2 | A2 B2 c2 | F6- | F4 E2 |
A2 G2 A2 | c3 B A2 | f6 | a4 gf | e2 c2 A2 | B3 A G2 | A6- | A4 |]
# Posted on April 19th 2010 by ceolachan
ceolachan, you sure meant M:3/4, not 1/4 above.
Ok, this is my take, learned, IIRC, from John McCusker. In the key of Eb it sits beautifully on the fiddle, gentle and mellow. Or perhaps John had his fiddle tuned up half a step and my learning it in Eb instead of D was a lucky accident.
X:3
T:Rosin the Beau (sic, but why not go all the way and make it "Roisín the Beau"?)
M:3/4
L:1/4
K:Eb
B,|E3|G>FE|E>GB|c2e|\
B>GF|E>F G/B/|C3|C2B,|\
E3|G>FE|E<e d/B/|c2e|\
B>GE|G2F|E3|E2::G/A/|\
B>cB|B/c/ d2|de2|e>d c/B/|\
B>GF|E>F G/B/|C3|C2B,|\
B>cB|B/c/ d2|de2|e>d c/B/|\
B>GE|G2F|E3|E2:|
# Posted on April 19th 2010 by Jürgen
Erratum
Correction to 2nd part (2nd ending):
B>GE|G2F|E3|E2:|2\
E3|G>FE|E<e d/B/|c2e|\
B>GE|G2F|E3|E2|]
# Posted on April 20th 2010 by Jürgen
M: 3/4 not 1/4
Jürgen, I'm still in a strange head space with this persistent lung hassle, too much lost sleep, more along the lines of 3/4... But I am better, cough, cough...
Thanks for the added transcription... But not to give it the M: 3/4 & L: 1/8 treatment itself ~
X: 3
T: Rosin the Beau
T: "Roisín the Beau"
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: EbMaj
B,2 |\
E6 | G3 F E2 | E3 G B2 |c4 e2 | B3 G F2 |E3 F GB | C6 | C4 B,2 |
E6 | G3 F E2 |Ee- e2 dB | c4 e2 | B3 G E2 | G4 F2 | E6 | E4 :|
|:GA |\
B3 c B2 | Bc d4 | d2 e4 |e3 d cB | B3 G F2 | E3 F GB | C6 | C4 B,2 |
[1 B3 c B2 | Bc d4 | d2 e4 | e3 d cB | B3 G E2 | G4 F2 | E6 | E4 :|
[2 E6 | G3 F E2 | Ee- e2 dB | c4 e2 | B3 G E2 | G4 F2 | E6 | E4 |]
# Posted on April 21st 2010 by ceolachan
But 'now'~
# Posted on April 21st 2010 by ceolachan
ceolachan, that's exactly what I wrote, only because of the L:1/8 (which is actually redundant, since it's the default for M:3/4 anyway) every note length has to be doubled individually. Do you find
B,2 | E6 | G3 F E2 |
really easier to read than
B, | E3 | G>F E |?
So there!
# Posted on April 21st 2010 by Jürgen
Yes!
Also because L: 1/8 helps bring forward the slower nature of the tune, and it allows for more specific notation, such as variations and swing... To me it just seems to fit better the whole family of tunes in 3/4 time. With L: 1/4 it looks and feels more along the lines of 3/8, also by bunching up the notes into a single bar long block ~ for example, your transcription followed by the same thing as L: 1/8 ~
L: 1/4
B, |\
E3 | G>FE | E>GB | c2e | B>GF | E>F G/B/ | C3 | C2B, | ~
L: 1/8
B,2 |\
E6 | G3 F E2 | E3 G B2 | c4 e2 | B3 G F2 | E3 F GB | C6 | C4 B,2 | ~
I find the second take much easier to read...
# Posted on April 27th 2010 by ceolachan
For my sense of things the first take suggests a reading of one beat to the bar, while the second seems much more clearly 3 beats to the bar... The extreme of that would be ~ | G2- GF E2 | ~ etc...
I'm still hoping someone other than me will add a transcript of Coleman's take on this...
# Posted on April 27th 2010 by ceolachan