Key signature: Dmajor
Submitted on July 15th 2008 by greybeardd.
This tune has been added to 18 tunebooks.
Also known as La Valse Eccossaise, La Valse Ecossaise, Le Valse Ecossaise, Leaving Lismore, Leaving Lismore March, Scottish, The Scottish .
Recordings of a tune by this name:
X: 1
T: Valse Eccossaise
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
R: waltz
K: Dmaj
D3/2E/F A2d|BAF AFE|D3/2E/F A2A|BAF E2A,|
D3/2E/F A2d|BAF A3|ABd F2E|F/E/D2 D3:|
d3/2c/d B2A|BAF A3|d3/2c/d B2A|BAF E3|
d3/2c/d B2A|BAF A3|ABd F2E|F/E/D2 D3|
d3/2c/d B2A|BAF A3|d3/2c/d B2A|BAF E3|
D3/2E/F A2d|BAF A3|ABd F2E|F/E/D2 D3||
It's a setting of a tune otherwise called Leaving Lismore, which is already in the Tunes database. I know, because I put it there!
# Posted on July 15th 2008 by nicholas
Valse Eccossaise
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/6375
# Posted on July 15th 2008 by MattO'K
Jig?????
nicholas! did you intend it looking like a jig? It plays quite well as a slow Scottish type jig/march but in my old age I do get a bit confused with musical contradictions.
L: 1/8 ???? a mistake??? maybe???
# Posted on July 15th 2008 by hetty
Valse Eccossaise
This tune is indeed called "Leaving Lismore" - Lismore (Lios Mòr in Gaelic) being an island of the Inner Hebrides in Loch Linnhe, in Argyll, on the west coast of Scotland.
It is what is known by pipers as a "retreat march" - that is, a march in 3/4 time. So it's not a waltz, even though it's in 3/4 time ( a bit of a difficult concept to grasp!). Perhaps "retreat march" is a free translation from the German: "Valse Eccossaise"
Other examples of retreat marches include "Green Hills of Tyrol" and "When the Battle is Over".
# Posted on July 16th 2008 by Mix O'Lydian
I agree that it is a retreat march but cannot see the logic behind 3/4. To me 6/8 would be correct and the dotted quaver in the triplets gives me the tempo and the feel of the tune. I would also be tempted to play all the other triplets with dotted first quavers, or at least most of them.
Valse = waltz????
# Posted on July 17th 2008 by hetty
Valse Eccossaise
Ooops! To correct what I said in my last post. When I said "German", I meant "French".
So "Valse Eccossaise" would translate as "Scottish Waltz".
Breton bagpipes are very similar to Scottish highland pipes, and Breton pipe bands often play Scottish pipe tunes. So perhaps "Valse Eccossaise" is just the generic French name for this type of Scottish pipe tune. That's my theory, anyway!
# Posted on July 18th 2008 by Mix O'Lydian
You have it hetty!
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/6375/comments
Hey, it happens. I wouldn't blame the Bretons for it necessarily, things sometimes go well more than one way... Polkas become slides, slides become polkas, jigs become waltzes, waltzes become jigs...
# Posted on July 18th 2008 by ceolachan
3/2 becomes 9/8 ~ and the beat goes on...
# Posted on July 18th 2008 by ceolachan