Key signature: Edorian
Submitted on January 13th 2008 by Trevor Jennings.
This tune has been added to 27 tunebooks.
Also known as Cam Ye O'er Frae France, Cam Ye O'er Frae France?, Come Ye Ower Frae France, Come Ye Ower Frae France?, Come You Over From France, The Keys To The Cellar, Marchioness Of Tweed-dale's Delight, The Marchioness Of Tweed-dale's Delight, Marchioness Of Tweeddale’s Delight, The Marchioness Of Tweeddale’s Delight.
Recordings of a tune by this name:
X: 1
T: Key To The Cellar, The
M: 3/2
L: 1/8
R: three-two
K: Edor
G2E2 E2D2 E4 | G2E2 E2G2 FGA2 |
G2E2 E2D2 E4 | F2D2 D2 B2 A2GF :|
E2e2 e2d2 e4 | E2e2 e2f2 g2e2 |
E2e2 e2dc d3B | A2F2 D2B2 A2GF :|
Key To The Cellar
An old English country dance tune with a strong driving 3/2 rhythm (Northumbrian perhaps?). It doesn't appear to be in the Playford collection.
I learnt it earlier this month at a Playford-style music workshop in Devon led by Dave Brown, whose website is http://www.dlbmusic.org.uk
It's been recorded recently in the USA by Liz Donaldson, Colleen Reed and Becky Ross on their album “English Echoes: English Country Dance Favorites”.
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by Trevor Jennings
Key To The Cellar
Liz Donaldson's website for this recording is http://www.lizdonaldson.com/recordings.html
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by Trevor Jennings
SONG!?!
I used to sing a song to this one... Damn, now I have to start shaking, dancing and knockin' my noggin' all over again in hopes of shaking out old associations, in search of a source... I think I learned it originally up North, Ulster way, possibly from Paddy Tunney? ~ "all for the sake of ~ ?"
X: 2
T: "~ song ~" ~ ???
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
R: song
K: E Dorian
|: GE E^D E2 | GE EG F/G/A | GE E^D E2 | FD D>G FA |
Ee e^d e4 | Ee ef ge | Ee e/d/c d>B | AF DA/A/ BF :|
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by ceolachan
Still singing that song ~ melodically anyway ~
The scraps of words I've been bringing up haven't given me a result yet...
X: 3
T: "~ song ~" ~ ???
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
R: song
K: E Dorian
|: GE E^D E2 | G>E EG F/G/A | GE E^D E2 | F>D DG FA |
Ee e^d e4 | E>e ef ge | Ee e/d/c d>B | AF DA BF :|
X: 4
T: "~ song ~" ~ ???
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
R: song
K: A Dorian
|: cA A^G A2 | cA Ac B/c/d | cA A^G A2 | BG- Gc B/c/d |
Aa a^g a2 | Aa- ab c'a | Aa a/g/f g2 | [M:4/4] dB Gd eB- B2 :|
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by ceolachan
Key To The Cellar - SONG!?!
You're probably right. I showed this tune to my tune workshop tutor on Thursday and she said it reminded her of a song, but she couldn't recall it. Anyway, she pounced on the tune with glee as something ideal to fill in a gap in a set for her band.
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by Trevor Jennings
bar 3 can also be ~ | cA- A^G A2 | ~
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by ceolachan
It was an old favourite, but I haven't done much in the way of singing, or playing 'country dance', in a long time... Thanks for the memory, even if it is only half-baked at the moment and struggling to come out...
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by ceolachan
Key To The Cellar - SONG!?!
I meant to add - but hit ENTER by mistake - that many old tunes, if they were singable, probably acquired lyrics at some time or other.
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by Trevor Jennings
"Come Ye Ower Frae France" ~ !!!
Hallelujah! ~ It came to call!!!
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by ceolachan
"Cam Ye O'er Frae France" ~ "To dance a jig wi' Geordie!" ~ Lyrics, etc...
Jacobite!!! ~ & 'Steeleye Span' did a take on it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVe-izA-Fj4
http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/steeleye.span/songs/camyeoerfraefrance.html
Digital Tradition ~ dots & lyrics
http://sniff.numachi.com/pages/tiCAMFRANC;ttCAMFRANC.html
Unriddling Came Ye o'er frae France? - James Prescott
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/prescotj/data/music/camyeoer.html
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by ceolachan
"Cam Ye O'er Frae France" ~ an earlier take? ~ but not as far back as 1715
The Holohan Sisters ~ !?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALBTdw4LnhI
The Holohan sisters and are from from Dublin Ireland. Jane on vocals and Jenny on guitar and vocals ~ This essentialy Irish traditional duo draw many of their songs from the songbooks of Ewan Mccoll and here they give us there lovely version of "Cam Ye O'er Frae France " which is probably where they got this song from.
Regards, Jim Clark
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by ceolachan
Another that took this for a spin ~ "The Corries"
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by ceolachan
Other keys you'll find this in ~ G Dorian (b) & C Dorian (bb)
~ & as one example, with other options ~
X: 5
T: Came Ye O'er Frae France?
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K: C Dorian
|: EC CG, C2 | E>C CE D/E/F/D/ | EC CG, C2 | DB, B,F D/E/F/D/ |
Cc c=B c2 | G>c c<d ec | Gc d/c/B/A/ B2 | FB, B,F G/F/E/D/ :|
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by ceolachan
"The Marchioness of Tweed-dale's Delight" ~ Scottish Country Dance
X: 6
T: Marchioness of Tweeddale’s Delight
B: "Niel Gow's 2nd Collection of Reels", 3rd ed., page 30, 1788
M: 3/2
L: 1/4
R: country dance
K: G Dorian
|: BG- GD G2 | BG- GB A/B/c/A/ | BG- GD G>B | AF Fc A/B/c/A/ :|
|: Gg g^f g2 | dg g>a bg | dg a/g/f/e/ f2 | AF Fc A/B/c/A/ :|
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by ceolachan
"The Marchioness of Tweed-dale's Delight"
Fiddler's Companion ~ Andrew Kuntz
http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/
Marchioness of Tweed-dale's Delight
http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/MARA_MARO.htm
Scottish, Country Dance Tune (3/2 time). ~ Standard. AABB.
The tune, in old hornpipe metre, was published under this title by Niel Gow in his Second Collection, 2nd edition, 1803. It had previously been used as the vehicle for a Jacobite song "Cam' Ye Ower Frae France," poking fun at the Hannover king. Emmerson sees in Gow's treatment of the tune a link between the old hornpipe metre and the modern common time dotted‑rhythm hornpipe. The Marchioness during Gow’s time (although it is not know if she was the Marchioness of the title) was Lady Hannah Maitland, daughter of the 7th Earl of Lauderdale) who married George Hay, 7th Marquis of Tweeddale. They travelled to the Continent in 1802, during a lull in the Napoleonic wars, and were in France when hostilities renewed. Both were imprisoned in the fortress of Verdun, and the Marchioness died there in May, 1804. Emmerson (Rantin’ Pipe and Tremblin’ String), 1971; No. 16, pg. 121. Gow (Second Collection of Niel Gow’s Reels), 1788; pg. 30 (3rd ed.)
# Posted on January 13th 2008 by ceolachan
"The Marchioness of Tweed-dale's Delight" ~ the dance?!
Hey hounddog, hetty ~ does anybody have the description of the dance? I'll see what I can find but my immediate resources, those on hand, are limited, especially after all my graphic files of old dance and music tomes got fried...
# Posted on January 15th 2008 by ceolachan
The Key to the Cellar
C, try contacting Dave Brown (website at start of this thread). He's an experienced dancer as well as musician and band leader. And one of the finest workshop teachers I've ever met.
# Posted on January 15th 2008 by Trevor Jennings
Cam ye o’er frae France, cam ye doon by Lunnon
Saw ye Geordie Whelps and his bonny woman
Were ye at the place ca’d the Kittle Hoosie
Saw ye Geordie Whelps ridin on a goosie
Geordie he’s a man, there is little doubt o’t
He’s done a’ he can, wha can dae without it
Doon there cam a blade, linkin like my lordie
He wad drive a trade at the loom o, Geordie
Though the claith were bad, blithely may we niffer
Gin we get a wab, it maks little differ
We hae tint oor plaid, bonnet, belt and swordie
Ha’s and mailins braid – but we hae a Geordie
Jocky’s gan tae France and Montgomery’s lady
There they’ll learn tae dance, Madam are you ready
They’ll be back belyve, belted, brisk and lordly
Brawly may they strive tae dance a jig wi’ Geordie
Hey for Sandy Don, hey for Cockalorum
Hey for Bobbin John and his heilan quorum
Mony a sword and lance swings at heilan hurdie
How they’ll skelp and dance o’er the bum o’ Geordie
# Posted on January 16th 2008 by DonaldK
Sorry, didn't check out all the links above which have the words already. I somehow don't think this song would have gone down well as a "Scotch" song in polite Victorian society.
# Posted on January 16th 2008 by DonaldK
Only five verses Donald?
~ I was expecting and hoping someone else would actually contribute some take on the lyrics. I wonder if the Victorians used to lay on accents as much as we sometimes tend to do? ~ naturally or affected... Damn, now I have Mary Poppins and the lot dancing and singing the Chimney Sweep song in my head. 
# Posted on January 16th 2008 by ceolachan
Thanks lazyhound, On your recommendation I've dropped Dave Brown a line, and also sent out emails to a couple of other contacts caught up in shared passions...
# Posted on January 16th 2008 by ceolachan
C, I've only ever known five verses (although I have never looked further than the two sources I have). But it is supposed to be a bawdy comic song not a 44 verse send-you-to-sleep ballad.
A note for the non Scots: "o'er" rhymes with hour and not with oar.
I certainly adopt different accents for different correspondence. Locally, one/two/three/four is pronounced yin/tway/thra-ee/fow-er. But they might not understand me if I spoke like that in London.
# Posted on January 16th 2008 by DonaldK
You know a song with 44 verses? 'Accent' and its mutability is about communicating. I have those that sneak up on me now and then that could be an embarrassment to someone who wasn't prepared for them...
I think I remember one or two other verses, but they may have cut too deep or had ruder elements in them than the norm, but not enough to put anyone to sleep. I remember Dick Gaughan belting this one out in a pub in Ireland, and loved it...
# Posted on January 16th 2008 by ceolachan