Music to stand back and listen in awe.
Matt Molloy can bring tears to my eyes just listening to his rolls. Tommy Peoples, so much lift and swing, Paul Brady, breaking out of the accompanyment sometimes to play melody, first class. Oh Lord, to meet such people some day!
I've written down the text to track 5, I've got one word I just cant figure out in socond part, so can anybody help me with this?
Here's what I've got now:
Shamrock Shore
Ye brave young sons of Eirinn’s Isle,
I hope you will attend a while,
to the wrongs dear old Ireland,
I’m going to relate.
’Twas black and course it ??? the day,
that our parliament was taken away,
and all our grief and suffering,
Comminces from that day.
For our hardy sons and daughters fair,
to other countries must repair,
and leave their native land behind,
in sorrow to deplore.
For to seek employment they must roam
Far far away from their native home
From that sore oppressed island
That they call the Shamrock Shore.
Now Ireland is with plenty blessed
But the people they are sore oppressed
All by those cursed tyrants
we are forced for to obey
Some haughty landlords fond to please,
our houses and our lands they’ll seize
To put fifty farms into one
and take us all away
Regardless of the widows cries,
The mothers tears and the orphans sighs
In the thousands we are driven from home
Which grieves our hearts full sore.
We are fraught by famine and disease
we emigrated across the sea
From that sore oppressed island
that they call the Shamrock Shore
Our sustenance is taken away
our tithes and taxes for to pay
to support that law protected church
to which they do adhere.
And our Irish gentry, well, you know,
to other countries they do go.
And the money from our Ireland is
squandered here and there.
But if those squires would stay at home
And not to other countries roam.
But to build mills and factories here
To employ the laboring core
For if we had trade and commerce there
To me no nation could compare
To that sore oppressed island that they
call the Shamrock Shore.
John Bull he boasts and he laughs with scorn
And he says that the Irishman is born
To be always discontented
for at home he cannot agree
But we’ll banish this court from our land
And in harmony like brothers stand
To demand the rights of Ireland
Let us all united be!
And our parliament and college green
for to assemble ‘twill be seen
And happy days in Erinn’s isle
we soon will have once more.
And dear old Ireland soon will be
a great and glorious country
And peace and blessing soon will smile
all round the Shamrock Shore.
The word is "curs-ed" - ie, cursed, but broken up in to 2 syllables - I think it would have one of those French "grave" accents - if that's what you call them - over the 2nd syllable, but I don't know how to do that on a computer.
The same thing happens with the word "oppressed" = "oppress-ed" , in later verses.
"Third" - "not thrid". Sorry !. "Cursed" turns up again in the 3rd line of the 5th verse - it's the same.
also - "Parliament IN college green", I think.[ 2nd last verse.]
Hey. Does anyone know where I can get a reasonably priced copy of this album. I desperately need it, but the cheapest I can find it for is about $41, and I'd rather not spend that much. Please help me if you can. Thanks so much.
Got to be one of the great albums of the ITM revival. Chock-full of catchy tunes played in a way that brings out their fire and emotional potential by outstanding practitioners, each of whom gets a chance to demonstrate what he can do on his own.
I first heard this album in 1982, and was instantly struck by the song. Such an eloquent portrait of the struggling 19th century Ireland.
I agree with the above about "discord' and "cursed".
I've performed it once, a unison duet with a mate in a folk club. May do so again soon. But what I'd like to know, not having the liner notes, is the origins of the song.
Here’s a review of this album I found a few years ago – anyone care to comment, or guess who wrote it ?
“In rhapsodic utterances Tony McMahon* calls us to listen to Peoples, Molloy, Brady, Tommy , Matt, Paul – at the risk of having a fresh hump affixed to our back we add fiddle, flute, guitar.
Tremendous music played by three masters but at such breakneck speed as to create a feeling of exasperation. Speed is not a musical quality, and when a tune is played faster than it should be the subtle proportions between the notes and the larger elements are destroyed and the music loses its’ savour.
One’s judgement is confirmed. Paul Brady plays two reels solo. One is not distracted by an accompaniment. The evident musicianship notwithstanding, the guitar is not suitable for playing Irish dance music, any more than the harpsichord, piano, piano-accordion. One hope dashed, Mulligan seems an unlikely protagonist for undoing the conquest.
At the risk of providing a ready-made formula for identifying the purist or crank may we say that Irish traditional music is a solo art, its’ quality lies in the treatment of the melody, in the deftness of the ornamentation and in the contrast in the length of the accented and unaccented notes. When a reel is played faster than it should, say at a speed greater than eight seconds a part, the melody suffers from compression. Those refinements are blurred.
Adding an accompaniment has the same effect.
Willy Matthew’s sleeve design, a monochrome in brown depicting the three players, discloses a first-hand acquaintance with the music and its’ atmosphere”.
The actual pitch of the record at 33-rpm is slightly higher than Eb, though recorded with the Eb flute and the fiddle tuned up to Eb, I heard somewhere that it was speeded up just a little to fit it on to an LP. This may be the case, but regardless of that, the actual increase in speed would be indistinguishable.
The simple fact is that this is how fast they play. like it or not, this is the music. If youhave a feeling of exasperation, get over it
I wouldn't disagree. Their playing sounds fast, but isn't actually that fast. And no matter how fast they play, they never "rush" unlike bad amateur "musicians" who claim that they are believers in Mr. Molloy.
A great album, on of the classics.
# Posted on June 17th 2002 by bb
Wow!
Music to stand back and listen in awe.
Matt Molloy can bring tears to my eyes just listening to his rolls. Tommy Peoples, so much lift and swing, Paul Brady, breaking out of the accompanyment sometimes to play melody, first class. Oh Lord, to meet such people some day!
# Posted on September 21st 2002 by glauber
Scoiltrad
Tommy Peoples has contributed a few fiddle lessons to Scoiltrad (http://www.scoiltrad.com).
# Posted on September 21st 2002 by glauber
So I've been wondering -- on the guest tutor lessons, does the guest tutor give the assessments, or do the regular tutors do it, anyone know?
# Posted on September 24th 2002 by Zina Lee
Classic album
Very exciting stuff indeed! Slightly marred at times by Brady's slightly off the wall rhythyms but a classic nonetheless!
# Posted on January 30th 2003 by milesnagopaleen
Scoiltrad
I did a Paul McGrattan lesson and Conal gave the assessment.
# Posted on September 27th 2004 by malcombpiper
Molloy, Brady, Peoples
Here is the link to the discussion on the recording: http://thesession.org/discussions/display.php/5032
# Posted on November 28th 2004 by slainte
I've written down the text to track 5, I've got one word I just cant figure out in socond part, so can anybody help me with this?
Here's what I've got now:
Shamrock Shore
Ye brave young sons of Eirinn’s Isle,
I hope you will attend a while,
to the wrongs dear old Ireland,
I’m going to relate.
’Twas black and course it ??? the day,
that our parliament was taken away,
and all our grief and suffering,
Comminces from that day.
For our hardy sons and daughters fair,
to other countries must repair,
and leave their native land behind,
in sorrow to deplore.
For to seek employment they must roam
Far far away from their native home
From that sore oppressed island
That they call the Shamrock Shore.
Now Ireland is with plenty blessed
But the people they are sore oppressed
All by those cursed tyrants
we are forced for to obey
Some haughty landlords fond to please,
our houses and our lands they’ll seize
To put fifty farms into one
and take us all away
Regardless of the widows cries,
The mothers tears and the orphans sighs
In the thousands we are driven from home
Which grieves our hearts full sore.
We are fraught by famine and disease
we emigrated across the sea
From that sore oppressed island
that they call the Shamrock Shore
Our sustenance is taken away
our tithes and taxes for to pay
to support that law protected church
to which they do adhere.
And our Irish gentry, well, you know,
to other countries they do go.
And the money from our Ireland is
squandered here and there.
But if those squires would stay at home
And not to other countries roam.
But to build mills and factories here
To employ the laboring core
For if we had trade and commerce there
To me no nation could compare
To that sore oppressed island that they
call the Shamrock Shore.
John Bull he boasts and he laughs with scorn
And he says that the Irishman is born
To be always discontented
for at home he cannot agree
But we’ll banish this court from our land
And in harmony like brothers stand
To demand the rights of Ireland
Let us all united be!
And our parliament and college green
for to assemble ‘twill be seen
And happy days in Erinn’s isle
we soon will have once more.
And dear old Ireland soon will be
a great and glorious country
And peace and blessing soon will smile
all round the Shamrock Shore.
# Posted on September 10th 2005 by Gard
The answer
The word is "curs-ed" - ie, cursed, but broken up in to 2 syllables - I think it would have one of those French "grave" accents - if that's what you call them - over the 2nd syllable, but I don't know how to do that on a computer.
The same thing happens with the word "oppressed" = "oppress-ed" , in later verses.
# Posted on September 10th 2005 by Kenny
Also
Thrid last verse, I think it's "discord", not "this court".
# Posted on September 10th 2005 by Kenny
"Third" - "not thrid". Sorry !. "Cursed" turns up again in the 3rd line of the 5th verse - it's the same.
also - "Parliament IN college green", I think.[ 2nd last verse.]
# Posted on September 10th 2005 by Kenny
Great album
Hey. Does anyone know where I can get a reasonably priced copy of this album. I desperately need it, but the cheapest I can find it for is about $41, and I'd rather not spend that much. Please help me if you can. Thanks so much.
-Shea
# Posted on February 6th 2006 by raven_in_the_woods
Try one of these
Ossian USA: http://www.ossianusa.com
Mad for Trad: http://www.madfortrad.com/store.htm
Custy's: http://www.custysmusic.com/mall/CustysTraditionalMusicShop/aboutus.stm
# Posted on February 7th 2006 by slainte
Thanks
Thanks so much. $20 BUCKS! Excellent. Can't thank you enough.
-Shea
# Posted on February 8th 2006 by raven_in_the_woods
Got to be one of the great albums of the ITM revival. Chock-full of catchy tunes played in a way that brings out their fire and emotional potential by outstanding practitioners, each of whom gets a chance to demonstrate what he can do on his own.
# Posted on August 29th 2006 by nicholas
Yep a great album but I just wish the did more repeats of the tunes.
# Posted on September 23rd 2006 by PaddyCmusic
Shamrock Shore; author ? Origins ?
I first heard this album in 1982, and was instantly struck by the song. Such an eloquent portrait of the struggling 19th century Ireland.
I agree with the above about "discord' and "cursed".
I've performed it once, a unison duet with a mate in a folk club. May do so again soon. But what I'd like to know, not having the liner notes, is the origins of the song.
# Posted on March 28th 2007 by Fliúiteadóir
Another view........?????
Here’s a review of this album I found a few years ago – anyone care to comment, or guess who wrote it ?
“In rhapsodic utterances Tony McMahon* calls us to listen to Peoples, Molloy, Brady, Tommy , Matt, Paul – at the risk of having a fresh hump affixed to our back we add fiddle, flute, guitar.
Tremendous music played by three masters but at such breakneck speed as to create a feeling of exasperation. Speed is not a musical quality, and when a tune is played faster than it should be the subtle proportions between the notes and the larger elements are destroyed and the music loses its’ savour.
One’s judgement is confirmed. Paul Brady plays two reels solo. One is not distracted by an accompaniment. The evident musicianship notwithstanding, the guitar is not suitable for playing Irish dance music, any more than the harpsichord, piano, piano-accordion. One hope dashed, Mulligan seems an unlikely protagonist for undoing the conquest.
At the risk of providing a ready-made formula for identifying the purist or crank may we say that Irish traditional music is a solo art, its’ quality lies in the treatment of the melody, in the deftness of the ornamentation and in the contrast in the length of the accented and unaccented notes. When a reel is played faster than it should, say at a speed greater than eight seconds a part, the melody suffers from compression. Those refinements are blurred.
Adding an accompaniment has the same effect.
Willy Matthew’s sleeve design, a monochrome in brown depicting the three players, discloses a first-hand acquaintance with the music and its’ atmosphere”.
[ *Tony McMahon wrote the sleeve notes. ]
# Posted on May 11th 2007 by Kenny
The actual pitch of the record at 33-rpm is slightly higher than Eb, though recorded with the Eb flute and the fiddle tuned up to Eb, I heard somewhere that it was speeded up just a little to fit it on to an LP. This may be the case, but regardless of that, the actual increase in speed would be indistinguishable.
The simple fact is that this is how fast they play. like it or not, this is the music. If youhave a feeling of exasperation, get over it
# Posted on May 11th 2007 by llig leahcim
It wisnae me..........!!!
I just thought it was in interesting review, Michael, which does not mean I agree with it. I love the recording.
# Posted on May 11th 2007 by Kenny
PS.
To avoid confusion, Tony McMahon wrote the sleeve notes to the actual record - not the "review" reproduced above.
# Posted on May 11th 2007 by Kenny
the simple fact is that few people would disagree that it's a desert Island disk
# Posted on May 11th 2007 by llig leahcim
I wouldn't disagree. Their playing sounds fast, but isn't actually that fast. And no matter how fast they play, they never "rush" unlike bad amateur "musicians" who claim that they are believers in Mr. Molloy.
# Posted on May 12th 2007 by slainte
Sorry, I've just noticed "worshippers" is probably a more appropriate word than "believers".
# Posted on May 12th 2007 by slainte
"A MIGHTY SESSION"?
Look at the disc. It reads:
MATT MOLLOY / PAUL BRADY
TOMMY PEOPLES
A MIGHTY SESSION
Is it the same on the LP?
# Posted on May 12th 2007 by slainte
I just got this through the post! What an amazing recording. It's lit up my day.
# Posted on July 12th 2007 by S1obhan