Im looking for a straight tipper approx 8" long and 1" diameter, the black one`s appear popular, what are they made from, what are the merits of these and why..? More importantly who stocks them and cost please. No Spanish music shops cater for them or Bohdrans for that matter...assitance please...looking forward to MG`s comments...lol
1” in diameter seems rather thick for a tipper. If indeed this is what you want why don't you purchase a 1” dowel at your area lumber or hardware store (sorry I don't know what they are called in Spain) and cut it to size. Be sure to round off the cut edges of the dowel so as not to damage the skin. I would suggest Oak or other hard wood if possible. The black tippers you see are mostly of Ebony.
There are a few great tipper maker's in the market. If you email me directly I will put you on to a site that has links and/or contact info for a number of them. I am reluctant to post the site here as I fear many of those that detest the bodhrán on this site would voice their, in my mind, misguided opinions on to this other site. I wouldn't want to disrupt my enjoyment of this other Online community.
Ed, don't take it all to heart. Dave actually invited us(Well, Michael anyway) to have few digs at his expense.
I doubt if any of us would bother going to a bodhran site to deliberately disrupt things for them there, even although we have a bit of fun here from time to time.
This is our regular stomping ground, after all. Surely, you know Michael and myself(and the other mischief makers) well enough by now.
Ebony is popular, that's probably the black wood you have seen. The benefit of ebony is that it's dense compared to most woods, so the tippers can be quite slim but still retain a good weight. An alternative is to have brass weights in the ends of the tipper. 1" would be a heck of a diameter for an ebony tipper, indeed I've rarely seen tippers that size.
Most tippers weight between 1/2 and 2 ounces - much more and you can't move it fast enough for the job. If your tipper weighs 2 ounces, it's going to take twice as much effort to move as a 1 ounce tipper, but it'll strike the skin with that much more force, so it's a trade off,a dn a very individual choice.
I got several good tippers from Whistle and Drum, I'd recommend the goatwhacker as the best, but their website is currently closed as it's being updated.
I don't take the friendly chiding seriously at all and I was glad to see that Dave invited Mr. Gill to contribute. It could be said that I was taking one of the very few shots we unwashed get to take at those of the elite.
Unfortunately I don't share your confidence that bodhrán bashing bile so often spewed on this site would not spill over to our safe haven (well at least it was safe). Now this doesn't include the voicing of opinions that this noble instrument does or does not indeed have a place in the music. These are opinions and just like noses and arses we all have one. I am more referring to the comments that are personal in nature, especially those that denigrate someone's abilities simply on the basis of the instrument they have chosen.
As others have said, an inch in diameter is HUGE for a tipper. They're usually less than half that, though I have seen people use larger. Check out Marty's selection, and if you don't see anything you like, he can make you a custom one.
Mreanwhile, try some tippers borrowed from other players and see what style you prefer. It's usually a very personal and individual thing.
SHOCK HORROR! John Bull - I had no idea that this was still going on! I think it’s an absolute disgrace that Bodhran Tipper makers are still making Tippers out of Ebony!
I must get onto Sir Paul McCartney immediately to see if he can help stamp this evil practice out, once & for all!
Thanks michaelpthompson, that's the one, the Goat Whacker.
I play around (in the privacy of my own front room) with a dozen different tippers, but that one still comes out as the most comfortable, and with the best bonk, in the long run. I think mine is African Rosewood, the ebony one was too pricey (and I wanted to spare the beetles, Ptarmingan!).
The other one I've used for a long period is one with two colours of wood and brass bits in the ends, that I bought at Willie Clancy Week as a souvenir, never thinking I'd ever use it in earnest.
Hi all, told ya I love this site. Some good info there and I should have typed 1/2 inch not 1 inch...typo error.
Ebony and African Rosewood Im after, so have enough info on it now, so thanks to all who contributed.
Could make use of my fiddle bow as well. but not heavy enough...lol...good luck to all
I have two tippers - the one that came with the bodrhan weighs a little over an ounce, and I find it too light, but this seems to be the average weight of commercially available tippers. My favourite was purchased from a lady b-maker in Dingle, I'm sure someone will know her name, and it appears to be maple or some similar wood, and weighs about two ounces, and I find it much more effective, the extra mass gives both an inertia and a momentum to the swing that suits my personal physique.
As earlier suggested, a piece of ebony an inch in diameter and eight inches long implies an altogether different purpose. Sand it well to remove the splinters, I suggest.
Just a query - my daughters' school runs a Spanish exchange programme every year for the language students, and we noticed that there seems to be a very strong dress-code amongst these teenagers, even allowing for the fact that they come from a prosperous upper-middle-class school.
Are there similar dress-codes for spanish ITM sessions ? Or can you get away with wearing anything, like here in the Smoke ?
No special dress code that I´ve noticed, Pete.
The current fashion for bare midriffs is often found at sessions and contemplation of the same has caused more than a few bum notes , at least from this old codger (I´m referring to the female of the species, by the way!).
What you will notice among Spanish language students in Britain and Ireland is that they tend to wear designer jeans and "smart casual" gear.
This is often in contrast with what is worn by the youngsters of the host families and their friends.
"Could make use of my fiddle bow as well. but not heavy enough" - For more weight, don't forget to try chopping up an old Viola &/or Cello Bow too - but do it quickly, before the owner gets back!
Yo Dave_, on second thoughts, spare the old fiddle bow, (viola,cello, etc). I can make you one out of 'purple heart', although I think 1/2" is still pretty thick, 3/8" or less maybe, or 3/8 tapering to 1/4" (nice pendulim action. e-mail me your address and I'll send ya one..........curlew.
If you take a look at my website http://www.mcknowall.com you will notice a competition whereby anyone who designs a new tipper worthy of listing on the site gets the first one for free!
I have a little nest of tipper customers in Asturias, no doubt referred by Ruma Barbero (Felpeyu)
Hi Dave, keep this under your hat, but you can make great tippers from Garden cane (Bamboo), just choose a section of appropriate length between nodes and cut so you have a node at each end. Round off the edges, tie some thread around for grip and Robert is very much your mothers brother.
The material is really tough and easy to replace. I’ve been using the same one for 10 years and it's fine.
Bamboo grows with different wall thicknesses so you can select the weight you want by choosing a piece with a small hole for heavier and visa versa.
Bodhran Tippers
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Im looking for a straight tipper approx 8" long and 1" diameter, the black one`s appear popular, what are they made from, what are the merits of these and why..? More importantly who stocks them and cost please. No Spanish music shops cater for them or Bohdrans for that matter...assitance please...looking forward to MG`s comments...lol
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Dave_
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Howya Dave,
try www.bodhranshop.com german based tipper maker
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by newdeafman
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I'm looking for a giant "tipper" e.g a lorry or similar and then we can load them(bodhrans) all on board before travelling to the city dump.
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Johnny Jay
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Ann Summers
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by ...
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Do you get batteries there too?
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Johnny Jay
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http://www.belgarth.com/beaters.htm
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Rudall the time
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A salami stick might do the job as well, Danny.
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(Uncovered in recovered time
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Johnny Jay
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Oops, I meant *record* time.
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Johnny Jay
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Hello Dave,
1” in diameter seems rather thick for a tipper. If indeed this is what you want why don't you purchase a 1” dowel at your area lumber or hardware store (sorry I don't know what they are called in Spain) and cut it to size. Be sure to round off the cut edges of the dowel so as not to damage the skin. I would suggest Oak or other hard wood if possible. The black tippers you see are mostly of Ebony.
There are a few great tipper maker's in the market. If you email me directly I will put you on to a site that has links and/or contact info for a number of them. I am reluctant to post the site here as I fear many of those that detest the bodhrán on this site would voice their, in my mind, misguided opinions on to this other site. I wouldn't want to disrupt my enjoyment of this other Online community.
Peace,
Ed
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by ejsant
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Ed, don't take it all to heart. Dave actually invited us(Well, Michael anyway) to have few digs at his expense.
I doubt if any of us would bother going to a bodhran site to deliberately disrupt things for them there, even although we have a bit of fun here from time to time.
This is our regular stomping ground, after all. Surely, you know Michael and myself(and the other mischief makers) well enough by now.
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Johnny Jay
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You can get them custom made here:
http://www.bodhranbeater.com/
Ebony is popular, that's probably the black wood you have seen. The benefit of ebony is that it's dense compared to most woods, so the tippers can be quite slim but still retain a good weight. An alternative is to have brass weights in the ends of the tipper. 1" would be a heck of a diameter for an ebony tipper, indeed I've rarely seen tippers that size.
Most tippers weight between 1/2 and 2 ounces - much more and you can't move it fast enough for the job. If your tipper weighs 2 ounces, it's going to take twice as much effort to move as a 1 ounce tipper, but it'll strike the skin with that much more force, so it's a trade off,a dn a very individual choice.
I got several good tippers from Whistle and Drum, I'd recommend the goatwhacker as the best, but their website is currently closed as it's being updated.
http://www.whistleanddrum.com/closed.aspx
Meanwhile here's a few other links you might try:
http://www.fiddlers-grove.com/index.html
http://www.bodhrantippers.org/
http://www.songsea.com/bodhrans.htm#case
Good hunting!
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Martin Milner
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Hey John J,
I don't take the friendly chiding seriously at all and I was glad to see that Dave invited Mr. Gill to contribute. It could be said that I was taking one of the very few shots we unwashed get to take at those of the elite.
Unfortunately I don't share your confidence that bodhrán bashing bile so often spewed on this site would not spill over to our safe haven (well at least it was safe). Now this doesn't include the voicing of opinions that this noble instrument does or does not indeed have a place in the music. These are opinions and just like noses and arses we all have one. I am more referring to the comments that are personal in nature, especially those that denigrate someone's abilities simply on the basis of the instrument they have chosen.
Peace,
Ed
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by ejsant
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My favorite tipper is the Goat Whacker, by Marty Spencer http://www.fiddlers-grove.com/index.html.
As others have said, an inch in diameter is HUGE for a tipper. They're usually less than half that, though I have seen people use larger. Check out Marty's selection, and if you don't see anything you like, he can make you a custom one.
Mreanwhile, try some tippers borrowed from other players and see what style you prefer. It's usually a very personal and individual thing.
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by michaelpthompson
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SHOCK HORROR! John Bull - I had no idea that this was still going on! I think it’s an absolute disgrace that Bodhran Tipper makers are still making Tippers out of Ebony!
I must get onto Sir Paul McCartney immediately to see if he can help stamp this evil practice out, once & for all!
I mean, do you people have any idea how many of these it takes to actually make just one bloody Tipper, just so that you guys can bang yer wee drums!
http://www.uark.edu/depts/entomolo/museum/ebony.html
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Ptarmigan
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Thanks michaelpthompson, that's the one, the Goat Whacker.
I play around (in the privacy of my own front room) with a dozen different tippers, but that one still comes out as the most comfortable, and with the best bonk, in the long run. I think mine is African Rosewood, the ebony one was too pricey (and I wanted to spare the beetles, Ptarmingan!).
The other one I've used for a long period is one with two colours of wood and brass bits in the ends, that I bought at Willie Clancy Week as a souvenir, never thinking I'd ever use it in earnest.
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Martin Milner
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Aye, just cut up an old fiddle bow, Dave_, you should get a couple of good sticks out of one.
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by curlew
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Hi all, told ya I love this site. Some good info there and I should have typed 1/2 inch not 1 inch...typo error.
Ebony and African Rosewood Im after, so have enough info on it now, so thanks to all who contributed.
Could make use of my fiddle bow as well. but not heavy enough...lol...good luck to all
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Dave_
Re: Bodhran Tippers
I have two tippers - the one that came with the bodrhan weighs a little over an ounce, and I find it too light, but this seems to be the average weight of commercially available tippers. My favourite was purchased from a lady b-maker in Dingle, I'm sure someone will know her name, and it appears to be maple or some similar wood, and weighs about two ounces, and I find it much more effective, the extra mass gives both an inertia and a momentum to the swing that suits my personal physique.
As earlier suggested, a piece of ebony an inch in diameter and eight inches long implies an altogether different purpose. Sand it well to remove the splinters, I suggest.
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Guernsey Pete
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Just a query - my daughters' school runs a Spanish exchange programme every year for the language students, and we noticed that there seems to be a very strong dress-code amongst these teenagers, even allowing for the fact that they come from a prosperous upper-middle-class school.
Are there similar dress-codes for spanish ITM sessions ? Or can you get away with wearing anything, like here in the Smoke ?
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Guernsey Pete
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cucumber
my mrs swears by them
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Ripthecalico
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No special dress code that I´ve noticed, Pete.
The current fashion for bare midriffs is often found at sessions and contemplation of the same has caused more than a few bum notes , at least from this old codger (I´m referring to the female of the species, by the way!).
What you will notice among Spanish language students in Britain and Ireland is that they tend to wear designer jeans and "smart casual" gear.
This is often in contrast with what is worn by the youngsters of the host families and their friends.
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by murfbox
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"Could make use of my fiddle bow as well. but not heavy enough" - For more weight, don't forget to try chopping up an old Viola &/or Cello Bow too - but do it quickly, before the owner gets back!
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by Ptarmigan
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Yo Dave_, on second thoughts, spare the old fiddle bow, (viola,cello, etc). I can make you one out of 'purple heart', although I think 1/2" is still pretty thick, 3/8" or less maybe, or 3/8 tapering to 1/4" (nice pendulim action. e-mail me your address and I'll send ya one..........curlew.
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by curlew
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Oops, forgot to close brackets, ), there thats better.
# Posted on March 10th 2006 by curlew
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If you take a look at my website http://www.mcknowall.com you will notice a competition whereby anyone who designs a new tipper worthy of listing on the site gets the first one for free!
I have a little nest of tipper customers in Asturias, no doubt referred by Ruma Barbero (Felpeyu)
# Posted on March 11th 2006 by mcknowall
Re: Bodhran Tippers
Hi Dave, keep this under your hat, but you can make great tippers from Garden cane (Bamboo), just choose a section of appropriate length between nodes and cut so you have a node at each end. Round off the edges, tie some thread around for grip and Robert is very much your mothers brother.
The material is really tough and easy to replace. I’ve been using the same one for 10 years and it's fine.
Bamboo grows with different wall thicknesses so you can select the weight you want by choosing a piece with a small hole for heavier and visa versa.
PP
# Posted on March 11th 2006 by Pied Piper
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Thanks to all for the comments, tons of info there for me now.
# Posted on March 12th 2006 by Dave_