At the risk of abuse , please excuse my ignorance and let me ask , who keeps time in a session of many melody players and no drums? What stops it from getting chaotic ( besides the skill and talent of the musicians ).Or am I just an ignorant rock bass player?
Any Bass player, rock or otherwise, who needs to ask about rhythm & time is probably playing the wrong instrument!
Timing should be a thing that every musician feels & does instinctively.
Rock & Jazz groups don't really need a drummer to keep time, but they are there because they have always been there & so it is with Trad sessions. They can function just as well without a Bodhran or a 'thrashing' percussionist type Guitar player, but sometimes they add a certain something.
Rhythm should be natural, like a built in metronome in all musicians, that's why I regard any musician, who actually speeds up during the course of a tune or set of tunes, to be committing The Cardinal Sin.
Well, you did ask, but stick around, cause others will totally disagree with me & will probably make friends with you, patronise you & try & convert you with mythical tales of the 'Magic of the Bodhran'!
Ptarmigan, some times people speed up playing a tune, they play all the time at a different tempo, that is really hard not to do if the person is playing it agonizingly slow.
The music does not need to have time kept. The rhythm is there and the player follows it, the tempo is set by the person who starts the tune. No music needs to have time kept for it, the time is there, but some people can't keep there own time. I was always told to tap my foot, I never found that useful the rhythm is in the music, I keep time with the music and tap my foot when I feel like it.
It's quite common for people to keep the beat with one foot, particularly if they think it's starting to waver or get lost in the chaos. Works well here in Aus, where we tend to play out on the verandah and the floors are unpolished wood.
Some people don't like it, some do. I can't do it anyway, since I can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
It's paticularly useful in the beginners session we have going, mainly because certain instruments have a tendency to vary the speed unintentionally (e.g. triplets played on a concertina, or button accordions where the in-out nature of the playing causes runs which are all in one direction to come out differently to runs where the bellows direction reverses on the middle note). And also, beginners tend to play the bits they know or the bits which are easy faster than they play the difficult bits.
Eno
P.S. Don't suggest using a metronome for ITM; you'll get lynched. Unless it's something funky like WeirdMet where you can program an emphasised pattern.
I agree with Pcardigan. The timing comes from the music, not the musicians. The rythm player emphasises the beat that is already there, or makes it sound a certain way. The important thing is to listen. Listen to the music, and do what it tells you to do. Don't try to control it or force it in any direction.
I believe that there are 2 types of people who have a problem with this: those that do not have a good sense of rythm and would probably not make good musicians, and people with control issues. The latter are unable to follow, they must always lead and it has nothing to do with music. It's a power play.
This is the same question as "why no harmony?" The rhythm is in the music, the harmony is in the music. It's all in the tunes. And requires no emphasis from any instrument other than those playing the tunes.
(Note I said "requires". That doesn't mean I advocate preclusion)
Ever seen a rhythm player thrashing away with their head down? I rest my case.
I encourage beginners to "play aware" - head up,eyes and ears open around the room - watching and listening. That is how to keep time with someone sat the other side of the room.
Watch their fingers - you don't need to be able to hear them!!!!
Needless to say, I do tend to use my knee to signal the beat to others as I am an unmarked member of the speed police. No acceleration allowed.
It is possible to play with your head down, but listening carefully to everything around you.
It is also possible to be so wrapped up in the joy of playing or singing yourself that you forget to listen carefully enough to those around you. I have occasionally been guilty of this.
In noisy sessions, it may be essential to watch for the visual clues around you, although I find these most helpful when coming up to a tune change or end.
Rock bands, being initially a young persons thing, may include people without an innate or practiced sense of rhythmn, not to mention rampaging egos, hence the original question.
Don't knock rock. It's a great sound when the bass and the kick drum are spot on in unison. A lot of diddling I've come across could learn a lot from this
"Don't knock rock. It's a great sound when the bass and the kick drum are spot on in unison."
I'm with you there MG.
One of the most memorable moments that ever happened at my Black Nun Folk Club was a night when three Jazz musicians came over from Poland & local Blues/Rock guitarist Henry McCullough joined them for a gig.
Henry sang all night with the guys & it was really cool bluesy gig, with some nice Jazz influences.
However, the unexpected highlight came, right out of the 'blue(s)', near the end, when Henry & the rhythm Guitarist just slid off the stage & left the Bass player & drummer.
Now up to then the Bass player had been, like the drummer, very much in the background - but no more.
These two guys just took off & went ballistic for about ten minutes - it was the first time I'd seen a supersonic Bass solo & the stuff those two guys produced was mind blowing - just Drums & Bass.
The other musicians don't have to have percussionists with them to keep the beat, but if you have good, tasteful ones, they don't half lift the music.
"but some people can't keep there own time." - yeah, I used to think that everyone could keep time, until I started teaching kids to play the Bodhran. Now I know, not everyone has natural rhythm!
But you can learn to keep better time & I would disagree with BegF's statement that - "Music is an audio thing not a visual one." I agree it is mostly an audio thing, but for the punters looking on at a session or a concert & more especially in this context, for the musicians, it is also, to some degree at least, a visual thing.
Some musicians are a delight to watch.
Dee Havlin is enchanting to watch as she plays & I have witnessed dozens of punters being transfixed by her when she plays. Admittedly, they are mezmerised by her wonderful playing, but she looks great when she plays.
Other musicians look great when they play too, a piper wrestling with those beasts & appearing to do about 7 different things at once is great to watch.
A fiddler with a graceful bow action, like Gerry O'Connor, is a delight to watch.
Bodhran players like Gino & The Postman are wonderful to watch.
As for musicians in a session environment, I enjoy watching my fellow musicians.
For a start, you learn when the next tune is coming, by watching he or she who started the set.
Also, watching the feet & knees does help to keep everyone on track, rhythmically.
But as well as that, a lot of amusing stuff goes on, 'off the ball' as it were, so I feel sorry for those 'eyes shut, head down & this is a serious music business' merchants, who tend to miss a lot of the fun that goes on!
So bradman, what may look like 'organised chaos' is, very often chaotic, but it's never 'organised' - it's just very natural fun! - in a rhythmic sort of way! - I think.............................
I remember an interview about the making of Sharon Shannon's 3rd album, with the reggae musicians. Some of the players asked about a "click" track to help them follow the timing. Denis Bovell told them to listen to the tune and watch her foot. Excellent advice, if you ask me.
Back in the good old days, every Irish traditional musician had a digital metronome in his/her top pocket, attached to a miniature earphone (except players of the war pipes, who traditionally wore hearing aids in both ears, and usually played with drummers anyway). Over thousands of years of playing, the rhythmic pulse eventually became embedded in the musicians' DNA, eliminating the need for any such electronic device (Some say this came about due to the rising cost of mercury, following the invention of the barometer).
Singers would traditionally hold a finger in one ear, to block out the guitarist, and keep the other ear free to listen for the last orders bell, thus having no way of listening to a metronome. Consequently, Sean Nós singers, still to this day, sing without a regular rhythm.
Hi all , thanks for some of the great answers but I do think some of you guys should get off your high horses!
I now fully understand that in trad , the beat stays constant.
No acceleration as someone said.
For this information I am grateful!
However , in rock , blues , jazz , funk it is quite common ( particularly live but also in recordings ) for the drummer to speed up ( intentionally ) in a particular section , e.g. the last chorus after the bridge or at the last song of a gig etc.
Since we do not possess inbuilt metronomes preprogrammed for the change, we actualy have to listen to the drummer to hear the timing! In effect the drummer leads the way.
Sermon over. I know its a trad discussion site.
Maybe i'll turn up at some of your sessions with my bass rig and drummer with his double bass drums to explain more.
"In effect the drummer leads the way." - hey Badman, you suggesting that our Bodhran players lead the way? I'd say you should start running for the nearest emergency exit NOW & QUICKLY!
"Maybe I'll turn up at some of your sessions with my bass rig and drummer with his double bass drums to explain more." & if you did Badman, you still wouldn't drown out some of our Bodhran players!
& hey, don't knock our high horse positions, there's a wonderful view from up here.................
Yeah, there is clearly a world of difference between a session & a gig or recording!
I hope you do go along to a few sessions & see what goes on. I'd say you would enjoy yourself, particularly if you took along an acoustic Bass.
I play the bodhran, but I wait until the melody players have established the rhythm and tempo before I join in. On rare occasion they ask me to start the rhythm with the bodhran first. When I do this, I listen to the tune in my head before I start.
Bradman, I disagree that it is common for rock/blues musicians to intentionally speed up! They do it by accident. That you have noticed the speeding up shows that you have good rythm and don't need to worry yourself over the tempo issue. ( I'm trying to think of a P-Funk tune that ever changed tempo. The opposite of funk! ) I don't think you need to "explain more" with or without the double bass drums. Tempo in all music is meant to be consistent. Any derivation is usually a mistake, wether the player admits it or not...
Even in Flamenco dance music the tempo does vary. Acceleration being one of the things that help to add to the sense of drama. I have often marvelled at how the guitarist and dancer can manage to speed up together and not fall out of synch.
One of the defined meanings of the word 'consistent ' is reproducible. I guess this gives a bit more latitude than the other meaning: "the same throughout in structure or composition".
Where does this leave Rubato -
"a term applied to a style of performance in which some tones are held longer than their legitimate time, while others are proportionally curtailed."
Eh? What would be the point of hijacking a "fun" thread BegF?
Although it'd perhaps be fun to try & get all serious on one, I suppose!
I know!
We could have a 'Junior session.org' section, for all those young-at-heart org-ers.
& then a 'stern-faced-&-serious' section for all the tight-ars*d serious, look at me I'm a, what was it DOW called them? - Oh Yes, the "Po-faced, snobby, up-themselves spacktossers" - must be an Ozzy expression I guess?
Not that I'm suggesting that your one of those BegF, but I think it's fine the way it is, not too much of the heavy stuff to weigh us, simple-minded chaps, down.
I have read here that many folks like a bit of levity now & then & that some other discussion boards can be 'too' heavy, all the time.
Maybe it's just me but if Button wants to Burp & Break Wind, then, as this is a virtual session, then I'd say - Go for it Button - at least there is no odour for us to worry about, here!
Fair enough Ptarmigan, i'd hate to stop all the great craic - only sometimes a thread is going really well and it just gets stopped in it's tracks by gibberish just when it's getting interesting.
BegF come off it - You are one of the the worst hijack offenders here! Or am I just totally misreading almost every post you have ever posted......hmmm
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At the risk of abuse , please excuse my ignorance and let me ask , who keeps time in a session of many melody players and no drums? What stops it from getting chaotic ( besides the skill and talent of the musicians ).Or am I just an ignorant rock bass player?
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by bradman
Re: timing
Any Bass player, rock or otherwise, who needs to ask about rhythm & time is probably playing the wrong instrument!
Timing should be a thing that every musician feels & does instinctively.
Rock & Jazz groups don't really need a drummer to keep time, but they are there because they have always been there & so it is with Trad sessions. They can function just as well without a Bodhran or a 'thrashing' percussionist type Guitar player, but sometimes they add a certain something.
Rhythm should be natural, like a built in metronome in all musicians, that's why I regard any musician, who actually speeds up during the course of a tune or set of tunes, to be committing The Cardinal Sin.
Well, you did ask, but stick around, cause others will totally disagree with me & will probably make friends with you, patronise you & try & convert you with mythical tales of the 'Magic of the Bodhran'!
Welcome to a crazy place, Mr Bass Man!
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: timing
Everyone keeps time and if someone is bad at it - they are usually told.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by bb
[ a 'thrashing' percussionist type Guitar player, ]
I have one of those ....
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by dogmageek
Re: timing
You have my sympathies dogmageek!
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: timing
Ptarmigan, some times people speed up playing a tune, they play all the time at a different tempo, that is really hard not to do if the person is playing it agonizingly slow.
The music does not need to have time kept. The rhythm is there and the player follows it, the tempo is set by the person who starts the tune. No music needs to have time kept for it, the time is there, but some people can't keep there own time. I was always told to tap my foot, I never found that useful the rhythm is in the music, I keep time with the music and tap my foot when I feel like it.
Drums are entirley overrated.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by Why Bother?
Re: timing
Bradman,
It's quite common for people to keep the beat with one foot, particularly if they think it's starting to waver or get lost in the chaos. Works well here in Aus, where we tend to play out on the verandah and the floors are unpolished wood.
Some people don't like it, some do. I can't do it anyway, since I can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
It's paticularly useful in the beginners session we have going, mainly because certain instruments have a tendency to vary the speed unintentionally (e.g. triplets played on a concertina, or button accordions where the in-out nature of the playing causes runs which are all in one direction to come out differently to runs where the bellows direction reverses on the middle note). And also, beginners tend to play the bits they know or the bits which are easy faster than they play the difficult bits.
Eno
P.S. Don't suggest using a metronome for ITM; you'll get lynched. Unless it's something funky like WeirdMet where you can program an emphasised pattern.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by bc_box_player
Re: timing
I agree with Pcardigan. The timing comes from the music, not the musicians. The rythm player emphasises the beat that is already there, or makes it sound a certain way. The important thing is to listen. Listen to the music, and do what it tells you to do. Don't try to control it or force it in any direction.
I believe that there are 2 types of people who have a problem with this: those that do not have a good sense of rythm and would probably not make good musicians, and people with control issues. The latter are unable to follow, they must always lead and it has nothing to do with music. It's a power play.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by Shrog
Re: timing
This is the same question as "why no harmony?" The rhythm is in the music, the harmony is in the music. It's all in the tunes. And requires no emphasis from any instrument other than those playing the tunes.
(Note I said "requires". That doesn't mean I advocate preclusion)
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by ...
Re: timing
( ... apart from bodhrans, of course)
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by ...
Re: timing
Ever seen a rhythm player thrashing away with their head down? I rest my case.
I encourage beginners to "play aware" - head up,eyes and ears open around the room - watching and listening. That is how to keep time with someone sat the other side of the room.
Watch their fingers - you don't need to be able to hear them!!!!
Needless to say, I do tend to use my knee to signal the beat to others as I am an unmarked member of the speed police. No acceleration allowed.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by geoffwright
Re: timing
Rest your case away.
Music is an audio thing not a visual one.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by BegF
Re: timing
It is possible to play with your head down, but listening carefully to everything around you.
It is also possible to be so wrapped up in the joy of playing or singing yourself that you forget to listen carefully enough to those around you. I have occasionally been guilty of this.
In noisy sessions, it may be essential to watch for the visual clues around you, although I find these most helpful when coming up to a tune change or end.
Rock bands, being initially a young persons thing, may include people without an innate or practiced sense of rhythmn, not to mention rampaging egos, hence the original question.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by Guernsey Pete
Re: timing
As an ignorant flute, whistle and mandolin player, may I ask how does a bass or percussion player know if he is keeping the time right?
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by showaddydadito
Re: timing
Don't knock rock. It's a great sound when the bass and the kick drum are spot on in unison. A lot of diddling I've come across could learn a lot from this
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by ...
Re: timing
"Don't knock rock. It's a great sound when the bass and the kick drum are spot on in unison."
I'm with you there MG.
One of the most memorable moments that ever happened at my Black Nun Folk Club was a night when three Jazz musicians came over from Poland & local Blues/Rock guitarist Henry McCullough joined them for a gig.
Henry sang all night with the guys & it was really cool bluesy gig, with some nice Jazz influences.
However, the unexpected highlight came, right out of the 'blue(s)', near the end, when Henry & the rhythm Guitarist just slid off the stage & left the Bass player & drummer.
Now up to then the Bass player had been, like the drummer, very much in the background - but no more.
These two guys just took off & went ballistic for about ten minutes - it was the first time I'd seen a supersonic Bass solo & the stuff those two guys produced was mind blowing - just Drums & Bass.
The other musicians don't have to have percussionists with them to keep the beat, but if you have good, tasteful ones, they don't half lift the music.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: timing
"but some people can't keep there own time." - yeah, I used to think that everyone could keep time, until I started teaching kids to play the Bodhran. Now I know, not everyone has natural rhythm!
But you can learn to keep better time & I would disagree with BegF's statement that - "Music is an audio thing not a visual one." I agree it is mostly an audio thing, but for the punters looking on at a session or a concert & more especially in this context, for the musicians, it is also, to some degree at least, a visual thing.
Some musicians are a delight to watch.
Dee Havlin is enchanting to watch as she plays & I have witnessed dozens of punters being transfixed by her when she plays. Admittedly, they are mezmerised by her wonderful playing, but she looks great when she plays.
Other musicians look great when they play too, a piper wrestling with those beasts & appearing to do about 7 different things at once is great to watch.
A fiddler with a graceful bow action, like Gerry O'Connor, is a delight to watch.
Bodhran players like Gino & The Postman are wonderful to watch.
As for musicians in a session environment, I enjoy watching my fellow musicians.
For a start, you learn when the next tune is coming, by watching he or she who started the set.
Also, watching the feet & knees does help to keep everyone on track, rhythmically.
But as well as that, a lot of amusing stuff goes on, 'off the ball' as it were, so I feel sorry for those 'eyes shut, head down & this is a serious music business' merchants, who tend to miss a lot of the fun that goes on!
So bradman, what may look like 'organised chaos' is, very often chaotic, but it's never 'organised' - it's just very natural fun! - in a rhythmic sort of way! - I think.............................
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: timing
I don’t disagree that there something to be gotten out of the visual things you described.
But the rhythm is in the music. Seeing someone tap there feet doesn’t necessarily mean they’re doing it in time.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by BegF
Re: timing
Aye, yer right BegF, We had a guy in Bells, years ago who simply could not tap his foot in time to his music, or anyone else's!
It was very off-putting, & when playing with him you had to conciously, & very deliberately, look away from his feet, all the time!
But I think if your not sure, you can usually watch the leader's feet tapping & you won't go far wrong.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: timing
MG said above - "Don't knock rock." & now I know why. Here he is playing with his new band. MG's the one in the Kilt!
http://www.causewaymusic.co.uk/mg&thecoolcats.html
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: timing
I remember an interview about the making of Sharon Shannon's 3rd album, with the reggae musicians. Some of the players asked about a "click" track to help them follow the timing. Denis Bovell told them to listen to the tune and watch her foot. Excellent advice, if you ask me.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by Kenny
Re: timing
Beware of the "metronomical" two footed tappers.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by Strathfoyle
Re: timing
nice band pic, Ptarmigan, but if that front fellow's kilt slips any, it will become a visual experience for sure.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by full measure
Re: timing
Still thinking about that visual thing - have any of you guys seen Salsa Celtica on your travels?:
"Salsa Celtica are as much a visual experience as they are a musical one."
http://www.salsaceltica.com/video.html
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: timing
Back in the good old days, every Irish traditional musician had a digital metronome in his/her top pocket, attached to a miniature earphone (except players of the war pipes, who traditionally wore hearing aids in both ears, and usually played with drummers anyway). Over thousands of years of playing, the rhythmic pulse eventually became embedded in the musicians' DNA, eliminating the need for any such electronic device (Some say this came about due to the rising cost of mercury, following the invention of the barometer).
Singers would traditionally hold a finger in one ear, to block out the guitarist, and keep the other ear free to listen for the last orders bell, thus having no way of listening to a metronome. Consequently, Sean Nós singers, still to this day, sing without a regular rhythm.
(Tinpan Valerie, 1899)
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by CreadurMawnOrganig
Re: timing
N.B. I should have mentioned that these metronomes were powered by mercury cells.
# Posted on February 21st 2006 by CreadurMawnOrganig
Re: timing
Hi all , thanks for some of the great answers but I do think some of you guys should get off your high horses!
I now fully understand that in trad , the beat stays constant.
No acceleration as someone said.
For this information I am grateful!
However , in rock , blues , jazz , funk it is quite common ( particularly live but also in recordings ) for the drummer to speed up ( intentionally ) in a particular section , e.g. the last chorus after the bridge or at the last song of a gig etc.
Since we do not possess inbuilt metronomes preprogrammed for the change, we actualy have to listen to the drummer to hear the timing! In effect the drummer leads the way.
Sermon over. I know its a trad discussion site.
Maybe i'll turn up at some of your sessions with my bass rig and drummer with his double bass drums to explain more.
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by bradman
Re: timing
"In effect the drummer leads the way." - hey Badman, you suggesting that our Bodhran players lead the way? I'd say you should start running for the nearest emergency exit NOW & QUICKLY!
"Maybe I'll turn up at some of your sessions with my bass rig and drummer with his double bass drums to explain more." & if you did Badman, you still wouldn't drown out some of our Bodhran players!
& hey, don't knock our high horse positions, there's a wonderful view from up here.................
Yeah, there is clearly a world of difference between a session & a gig or recording!
I hope you do go along to a few sessions & see what goes on. I'd say you would enjoy yourself, particularly if you took along an acoustic Bass.
Good Luck
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: timing
I play the bodhran, but I wait until the melody players have established the rhythm and tempo before I join in. On rare occasion they ask me to start the rhythm with the bodhran first. When I do this, I listen to the tune in my head before I start.
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Phantom Button
Re: timing
Bradman, I disagree that it is common for rock/blues musicians to intentionally speed up! They do it by accident. That you have noticed the speeding up shows that you have good rythm and don't need to worry yourself over the tempo issue. ( I'm trying to think of a P-Funk tune that ever changed tempo. The opposite of funk! ) I don't think you need to "explain more" with or without the double bass drums. Tempo in all music is meant to be consistent. Any derivation is usually a mistake, wether the player admits it or not...
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Farr
Re: timing
"Tempo in all music is meant to be consistent"
Really?
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Dr. Dow
Re: timing
Even in Flamenco dance music the tempo does vary. Acceleration being one of the things that help to add to the sense of drama. I have often marvelled at how the guitarist and dancer can manage to speed up together and not fall out of synch.
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Donough
Re: timing
One of the defined meanings of the word 'consistent ' is reproducible. I guess this gives a bit more latitude than the other meaning: "the same throughout in structure or composition".
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Donough
Re: timing
Where does this leave Rubato -
"a term applied to a style of performance in which some tones are held longer than their legitimate time, while others are proportionally curtailed."
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Donough
Re: timing
Am I talking to myself here?
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Donough
Re: timing
Dow have you recovered from your hangover?
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Donough
Re: timing
*burp* scuse me.
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Phantom Button
Re: timing
Nice to know someone else is out there even if it is a Phantom
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Donough
A Burping one at that.
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Donough
Re: timing
Can I fart now?
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Phantom Button
Re: timing
Only if you can do it in F#minor
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Donough
Re: timing
Here it comes:
http://www.acoustica.com/sounds/user_requests/bigfart.wav
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: timing
Is that what it's come to?
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Ottery
Re: timing
Wouldn;t it be nice if there was a "fun" section for all the
messin' to go, so other threads don't get hijacked.
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by BegF
Re: timing
Eh? What would be the point of hijacking a "fun" thread BegF?
Although it'd perhaps be fun to try & get all serious on one, I suppose!
I know!
We could have a 'Junior session.org' section, for all those young-at-heart org-ers.
& then a 'stern-faced-&-serious' section for all the tight-ars*d serious, look at me I'm a, what was it DOW called them? - Oh Yes, the "Po-faced, snobby, up-themselves spacktossers" - must be an Ozzy expression I guess?
Not that I'm suggesting that your one of those BegF, but I think it's fine the way it is, not too much of the heavy stuff to weigh us, simple-minded chaps, down.
I have read here that many folks like a bit of levity now & then & that some other discussion boards can be 'too' heavy, all the time.
Maybe it's just me but if Button wants to Burp & Break Wind, then, as this is a virtual session, then I'd say - Go for it Button - at least there is no odour for us to worry about, here!
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: timing
Fair enough Ptarmigan, i'd hate to stop all the great craic - only sometimes a thread is going really well and it just gets stopped in it's tracks by gibberish just when it's getting interesting.
Not necessirly this one eg this one had potential to be
excellent
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/9184
But I think people lose interest if it turns into just banter
only.
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by BegF
Re: timing
And i'm not talking about Jack either !
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by BegF
Re: timing
BegF come off it - You are one of the the worst hijack offenders here! Or am I just totally misreading almost every post you have ever posted......hmmm
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by bb
Re: timing
Ptarmigan - Dow is a Brit - not an Aussie. (thank god!)
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by bb
Re: timing
Oooooooh an imposter then, eh?
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: timing
Fair enough bb....I'll keep an eye on that.
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by BegF
Re: timing
Bradman -
If you're looking for folks on lower horses - man - did you ever come to the wrong place.
dew
# Posted on February 22nd 2006 by dylandew
Re: timing
Oh I don't know dylandew, you will find an odd one here:
http://www.mccullagh.org/photo/1ds-4/man-riding-donkey
# Posted on February 23rd 2006 by Ptarmigan