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"bag of tricks"

"bag of tricks"

I've been thinking about that "bag of tricks" thing. I used as a throw away phrase on dow's latest etiquette thread:
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display.php/7792/comments#comment167623
and kind of got in a bit of a tangle with it.

It's quite straight forward really. Your "bag of tricks" is just a collection of technical things you've gathered over the years, nothing more. It's things like being able to play two quick rolls back to back, or two bowed triplets back to back, up down up, down up down. Or crossing strings back and forth without changing bow direction. There are tricks that are universal to the music and tricks for just your instrument. There are other more esoteric ones, like being able to play fast without compromise and - harder - being able to play slow without losing it. etc. You could even say knowing squillions of tunes is one of your bag of tricks. especially when someone you've never met comes to your session and you know all their tunes.

Anyway, it was infered in the previous thread that there is such a thing as a "full bag of tricks". Nonsense. You picks and you choose, depending on who you want to play with.

Which do you pick, and which do you not bother with?

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by llig leahcim

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Mine is a fairly lonely empty little bag at the moment.
Not empty – funny when it was an empty vessel it made most noise.

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by BegF

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The ability to not play every tune that gets played at a session - that's a very important one.

I think it lives in the same pocket in the bag of tricks as the ability to go to a session and not play a particular tune you happen to like, because it's just not the right moment for that particular one.

In the top should be a reminder that other people's bags of tricks are different from yours.

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by showaddydadito

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I don't usually pick the "playing fast" trick. Don't usually go for same-note triplets either. They're both in the bag somewhere but they got shoved down the bottom in amongst all the old gasless cigarette lighters, bic biros with no top leaking the last of their ink, nuts and bolts that you kept in case you might need them if ever you got into D.I.Y., bits of paper tissue, keys that don't unlock anything, and sweeties that fell out of their wrappers 5 years ago and then stuck to the bits of paper tissue.

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Dow

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I make a point of never asking what a 'lady' carries in her 'handbag', so please don't feel you need to tell us michelle & please don't empty it out on the table, just in case something embarrassing might drop out too! :-)

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Ptarmigan

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I think you've just about covered the contents of my hand bag except for old bus tickets, a plectrum and a pile of bills
My bag of tricks has variable contents - some days I can play faster than others, sometimes my bowing is OK but sometimes I can't manage one same note triplet. - no real reason - sometimes I'm just more in the zone than others!

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Tarrantella

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Playing "Wedding Reel" and "Clumsy Lover" with my teeth; spinning the guitar on my pinky during slow airs; juggling 7 plectra at once; singing "Rocky Road to Dublin" backwards.

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by EastPole

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Anyone who keeps and uses a toobox for any length of time, and I guess handbags fall into this category too, know that after a while the bottom of the box or bag begins to fill up with semi-useful detritus. I believe it was a sc-fi author who first coined the name "kipple" for this sediment of old scraps, screws, tissues, and sawdust.
Never mind the tricks, what's the kipple at the bottom of your bag ?

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Guernsey Pete

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That'll be all the bits of too, that you keep in your toobox.


The Spelling Police
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# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by showaddydadito

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Too-b or not too-b?

Scraping the bottom of the toobox found the following kipples -
Playing anglo concertina with one hand whilst drinking.
Playing along with a stranger, then saying - oh, I have never heard that tune before!
Calling out chords for accompanists who don't know what a Bm chord is, never mind where it goes in the tune.
Holding a mid-tune conversation with people who cannot play and talk at the same time.
Asking melodion players if they would like the tune in F or A?.

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by geoffwright

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Anyone in publishing or officework knows already that you can't do a good edit on-screen, you need to have it on paper to have a chance to be able to spot all your typos.
I do try, honest, guv !

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Guernsey Pete

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Also, like Thunderbirds, I have the onebox, the threebox, the four.........

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Guernsey Pete

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Pete, you go to the naughty boys room and you type "I must try hardr" 100 times.

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by showaddydadito

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Then of course there's the real live "bag of tricks" - consisting of tangible objects such as new strings, old strings, rosin - even though you don't play fiddle, a capo that fits nothing you play, a bit of blu-tak, some emery cloth, a piece of plastic tube, a spare bridge for a mandolin you no longer have, a bit of inner tube, one of those tiny screwdrivers for doing up the screw that keeps the lens in your glasses, a piece of yellow chalk, a whistle mouthpiece and a whistle barrel that doesn't fit it, some cork grease, a ball of the red wax from the outside of Edam cheese spare plectrums (plectra?), strap ends, strap buttons and screws, swiss army knife. (It really impresses the girls if someone turns up with a new mandolin and you can produce a button and a screw so they can put the strap on properly, instead of tied round the peghead with a bit of string.)

Well - that's what's in mine anyway.

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by showaddydadito

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I guess anyone who started reading this thread like me and intended adding their "tricks" to the end of the page has certainly been scared off by now. Now you'll never find out what I keep in my guitar case!! Ha!

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Donough

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doh, but I do love a good hijack.

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by llig leahcim

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(It really impresses the girls if someone turns up with a new mandolin and you can produce a button and a screw so they can put the strap on properly, instead of tied round the peghead with a bit of string.) ... and you split the wood while you're screwing it in. Yeah.

I need more tricks. I need more tunes. I need more time. I need a bag.

I can make a blues harp sort of sound on my mandolin. I reckon it's good, anyway. :-P I used to fingerpick harp (stringed harp that is) tunes on the mando but last time I tried it I'd lost it.

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Bren

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From the last time I checked my $14 Wal-Mart gig bag:

1 .45 automatic.
2 boxes of ammunition.
4 days' concentrated emergency rations.
1 drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills.
1 miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible.
100 dollars in rubles.
100 dollars in gold.
9 packs of chewing gum.
1 issue of prophylactics.
3 lipsticks.
3 pairs of nylon stockings.

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by wormdiet

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I saw a bloke arrive for a week in Miltown one time with a fiddle case under his arm - that was all!

In the fiddle case, all he had was a Tin Whistle, a Toothbrush & a spare pair of underpants!!

Spose that's not a 'bag' of tricks but more a 'case' of tricks!

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Ptarmigan

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So if the ladies are impressed with the button & screw to put the strap on properly, what impresses the gents?

I'm still working on the basic "tricks". Although this week after much practice, my work on hornpipes has been worth while. They actually sound like hornpipes. Is that a trick?

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Agnes Nutter

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Ah - that old "what impresses the gents?" question! Sure, haven't 'ladies' been trying to answer that question since the dawn of time! I guess us blokes are just such mysterious creatures - ain't dat right gents?

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Ptarmigan

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In my harp box (the one I put the harp on top of when I play it):

1 set of strings consisting of:

1 each of the ones that never break

5 strings which aren't quite long enough

Lots of little lengths which might come in useful to tie down the ends of big strings - enough for several harps really, just that I can never throw them away

5 2nd-octave "B" stings - why I have that many of that one pitch, I don't know. I had two, and then three more came with another harp. All that proves is that other people carry around similar amounts of blisteringly useless crap too.

A tuning key with rubber ends which have worn down because I use it to play a bodrhan I sometimes borrow (hope the owner's not reading this)

A pair of industrial strength cutters for big strings (but could come in handy for other uses, depending)

A tuner that has a dodgy battery connector.

A bag for a second tuner (but the tuner's somewhere else).

Lots of old visa receipts and the odd train ticket.

Two jack-to-jack leads, one of them with the "iffy" right-angle connector I meant to get soldered.

A nice vocal mic

A rubbish vocal mic which I lend to other people in the band.

Bits of tunes on manuscript paper, which I mean to learn....one day.

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Mark Harmer

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I use a plectrum to tighten up the screws in my glasses. I keep my plectrums (plectra, plectrae) in the little corner pocket of my jeans, rather than in my instrument cases, so I'm rarely caught short when my lens falls out (again).

- Chris

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by ramblingpitchfork

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I love how "bag of tricks" turns into examination of handbags, toolboxes and ammunition cases.

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by oldstrings

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That's the joy of highjacking!

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Mark Harmer

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". . .when it was an empty vessel it made most noise. "

I think you'll find, upon reflection, that it made the most noise when it had just a few things in it to rattle around, but not so many as to begin to form their own structurally cohesive system, or matrix.

Around here we call that particular bag a "sophmore."

". . .sweeties that fell out of their wrappers 5 years ago. . ."

Memories, like the corners of my. . .

KFG

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by KFG

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I never leave the house without my black bag it has a couple two or three whistles, a metronome, a chromatic tuner, a Kieser capo, a tape recorder, a tube cleaner brush, session tapes, sheet music, and some assorted picks and strings.

# Posted on September 22nd 2005 by Chef Paul

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I must apologise to anyone who thought I had hijacked this discussion - the kipple I was referring to was of course metaphorical.
There was an interesting earlier discussion about what's in your gig-bag or instrument case, some weeks ago now. I had contributed to that and was not trying to repeat it.
What's in my bag of tricks ? Well, concentrating on the 'zouk, as I do, I can either play the tunes, or a chordal accompaniment. That's good enough for me.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Guernsey Pete

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To answer the intended question, people tell me my flute articulations (cuts, taps, rolls, cranns) are nice and crisp and clear, especially for somebody with less than a year of experience. To the extent that this is true, I'm sure this is due to the very good GHB training I had as a teenager. After ten years, the snap is still there, to some extent. Of course the actual ornaments are often different, but the technique from one translates to the other.

In the "Party Trick" sense, a super cheesy thing to do with a flute is to turn the foot sideways. . . if you've got 8 holes and no keys, you can get a low C by pressing the two holes against something soft but firm, like somebody's leg.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by wormdiet

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I make no apology at all for my unashamed hijack of this thread.

I appeal to the court to take note of the fact that I gave a proper answer first time round. Then I went off looking at other threads and I saw how sometimes a seemingly good thread gets only two or three replies and then just stops. I feared that might happen here, and I was anxious lest Mr Gill might feel rejected and unloved and begin to turn into a grumpy twit with a pathological hatred of bodhrans, and I thought that would be a terrible thing to happen to anyone, so I decided that a light hearted hijack was the best way to help this poor man to feel part of the family.

I throw myself in the Mersey of the court.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by showaddydadito

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doh! twit not twit!

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by showaddydadito

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Ah - the anti-profanity elves have taken over!

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by showaddydadito

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"ha ha" that's jeremy for you. Many a time I have tried to type t-w-a-t and it comes out twit. I know it offends the yanks cause t-w-a-t means something different (like they own the language?) but it is a very useful word. And having the meaning of your posting being changed from acusing some one of being an arrogant nasty idiot to being a harmless idiot is very annoying.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by llig leahcim

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I think it's hilarious. And have you noticed that people have only really started to swear on this site since the automatic censorship kicked in? It's like in the school playground when you only do something like smash a window because it's naughty, otherwise you wouldn't bother.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Dow

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The ultimate hijack is when you hijack a thread that has done the rounds and bring it back on task again in a seamless way. I'm still working on this with no success. Without hijacks we probably would never get to talk about all the things we really want to talk about. Imagine having to start a new thread every time you wanted to deviate even a tiny bit. Conversation must always go with the flow or else I forget what was I saying?...

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Donough

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Oh Michael - I'm totally gibsmocked and shiken to the cure that you should think I think that. - "arrogantly nasty?" - no no no you nibhead - not round here. It's just a somewhat stronger version of "harmless idiot". A sort of "harmless idiot with malice aforethought".

I'm off to smash some windows now I know its naughty.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by showaddydadito

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Showie, you know fine well it means the same as cint, you dupshut.

Hey I sounded like a Kiwi for a moment there, eugh...

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Dow

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Gid bless Australia!

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by showaddydadito

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I got away with "crap" - does that get left in?

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Mark Harmer

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YESSSS!

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Mark Harmer

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Drat. Bugger.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Dow

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YESSSS!
Miss, Julie's stabbin uz with her compass.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Dow

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Arse?

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Mark Harmer

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Sometimes I can pull out 5-note rolls from my bag of tricks, but I only do that when there are anglo players around cuz they can't do it on their instruments, hahaha.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Dow

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...He said, trying to keep it on topic so that Jeremy wouldn't wipe it.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Dow

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Oh yeah and I do what I call "clunkies" but I'm not telling you about that because it's a secret.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Dow

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I think you better keep your clunkies to yourself if they are what I think they are.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Donough

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Long rolls are a eejit on mandolin.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by BegF

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Look at that - C*nt gets changed to “eejit”

Talk about losing the meaning !

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by BegF

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I was out bird watching the other day and saw a pair of great tits, and when it got dark, I trained my telescope on Uranus.

This is a great thread. And such a bonus it was instigated buy some harmless idiot with malice aforethought.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by llig leahcim

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See any black holes through your telescope ?

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by BegF

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I've changed me mind Michael - I've decided yer an eejit.

I sometimes pull ham and tomato rolls from my bag of tricks.

Even now Jeremy is probably selling all our details to Tesco for their world domination database.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by showaddydadito

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Gas though isn't it that two words with the exact meaning,
one causes offence to some the other doesn't.

What is it – the combination of consonants and vowels.
Or am I talking complete wink ?

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by BegF

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Ah Showaddy you should have said "I've decided yer a eejit", to keep up the pretence.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Conán McDonnell

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eejit

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by llig leahcim

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Ha ha, I just had to test the C to eejit thing

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by llig leahcim

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It means that now, anytime I see the word eejit on this site, I'll know what they actually typed

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by llig leahcim

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But did you type eejit or eejit just then?

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Conán McDonnell

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whatever else you do Michael, Ptarmigan, BegF, Conan, Dow etc etc - don't change - it's all good fun, you can't beat a bit of banter to brighten up the day.

One man once said to me "Irony, sarcasm and p*ss taking can sometimes be taken the wrong way when all we can do is type", but I hope (and believe) that everyone who's been around here for a while knows what's what and who's who, and the new people find out soon enough. And in between it all - hey we sometimes cover some serious stuff too.

"So.... can I say ..... bum?" (Angry Kid)

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by showaddydadito

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There was a young man at the session,
who, when typing, was terribly blunt.
Then one day some twit,
said, "you can't do that,"
"You absolute stupid fecking eejit."

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by llig leahcim

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Hey show...dito' please don't lump me with those other 'lump heads'! :-)

After all 'I' have an image to preserve & a reputation to maintain - i.e. 'The Grouse'! - So I can't have folks thinking I'm some sort of light hearted, happy go lucky, sort of chap! - heaven forbid!

My favourite quote from this thread was Michael's - "buy some harmless idiot"
Just what I'm looking for!
Where can I buy one of those Michael? :-)

By the way, Show...dito, I think we are all too, too (that's four) long in the tooth (especially those other guys!) to change our spots, for stripes now.

Don't know about sarcasm or Irony - I just 'extract the urine' meself!
After all it's a higher class of wit than the other two - surely!

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Ptarmigan

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splorf! - ROFLMTO! - etc.

My coffe just came out of my nose.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by showaddydadito

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when consulting the wise on thesession,
you're rarely surprised by digressions
but if you act like a twit
you'll be treated like shat
and that ought to teach you a leshon.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Q

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One day, while browsing thesessionry,
I spotted some terrible Poetry,
I could say it was lousy,
& deserving of Pity,
But I'll simply just say it was CRAP!

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Ptarmigan

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and again.

My desk is beginning to look like New Orleans.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by showaddydadito

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I thought that I'd try out me luck
At causing a bit of a ruck
So I typed in the word
But ain't it absurd
They won't even let you say that.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by showaddydadito

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LOL!

that's in the grand tradition of a rhyme I learned at roughly the same time as I discovered naughty words:

Mary had a little lamb
she also had a duck
she put them on the windowsill
to see if they would fall off.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Q

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HAHAHA love it, Matt!
Any more like that?

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Conán McDonnell

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Blimey Conan - did you spend your childhood locked in the attic?


Mary had two little lambs
She kept one in a bucket
But every time she let it out
The other one would chase it all round the garden.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by showaddydadito

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Seejithorpe

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Kenny

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Yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Kenny

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Sorry Eejitstable, I didn't realise my lights weren't on !

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by murfbox

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There once was a man called Jeremy
who wasn't much into blasphemy
You'd never hear him grunt,
a word rhyming with punt,
because he was stuck on the meaning of monosemy

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by llig leahcim

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Well beggar me you old bustard - I had to look that up, which is most unusual.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by showaddydadito

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Far Canal, Michael me old dyslexic! That IS a good one.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Key Maniac Lad

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# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Key Maniac Lad

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Danny - go at once to the naughty boys corner and never say that again.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by showaddydadito

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It wisnae me. Ah didnae say nuffin.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Key Maniac Lad

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No I don't live in an attic. I just like incredibly silly jokes.
Hence I'm a big fan of the GOP

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Conán McDonnell

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Outback politician: "I'm a country Member"
"Yes, we remember"

Boom, boom.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Bren

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Boom Boom? You weren't, by any chance brought up in Belfast were you?

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Ptarmigan

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There once was a thread on a website
where they chatted about "Bag of Tricks"
but the topic soon went to the gutter
and they all were just waving thier hands and saying goodbye

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Phantom Button

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Michael Gill had a fine Bag of Tricks,
Full of stupendous-illaneous licks,
'Double Gimboid' & 'Twirl'
'Half Top Flip Squat' & 'Swirl'
All performed, 'fore he even sat down!

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Ptarmigan

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This reminds me of Bromwell High.

# Posted on September 23rd 2005 by Conán McDonnell

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I once knew a man from Nantucket.

And may I say the stories about him are greatly exagerated.

# Posted on September 24th 2005 by BegF

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Well Conan, Grange Hill it is not!

# Posted on September 24th 2005 by Ptarmigan

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A person brought this thread to my attention in our session last night. He had an amazingly bright orange strap on his mandolin.

Here is the Scots Gaelic for the word in question: piseag. I learnt it in my misspent youth. It was said something like "pea sack" and it is the only one of the many Gaelic profanities in my Bag of Tricks for which I actually know the dots.

# Posted on September 24th 2005 by LowProfile

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There you go! Straight through. Is it spelt the same in Irish?

# Posted on September 24th 2005 by LowProfile

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