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Inspiration (and where to get it)

Inspiration (and where to get it)

I'm going through a low point in my fiddling. I just don't feel like doing anything with my fiddle, really. I don't sit down and practice for hours like I used to and even my classical music is boring (can you imagine!!!!!!!) I thought I would listen to some of the fiddle/ Celtic musicians who inspire me the most, but it didn't work. Does anyone here go through dry periods like I am? Honestly, I'm pretty sick of it and I'm tempted to start trying to play punk music with my fiddle. Maybe......... nah.

# Posted on May 11th 2005 by The Celt

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A few years ago I played at a day center for adults with special needs. As my friend and I piled into the first tunes, our audience stood up as one - we were playing to a very multicultural group who shared one thing - they had never heard live music. After twenty minutes or so we had thirty or so very happy people banging pots and pans- in fact anything they could get their hands on in an effort to be part of it. I don't think I'll ever play a more fantastic gig for more appreciative people but thinking about it always makes me dig deep when I'm going through a thin patch with my playing

# Posted on May 11th 2005 by Kelpie

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The only place I have played is at a pub (kinda) for a bunch of people who ignored me at the bar and for some old people at a nursing home, and after a while I was told to settle down and be quiet so the next person could play.

# Posted on May 11th 2005 by The Celt

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Nice story, Kelpie.

Hey Celt, try to relax. We all go through dry periods. What I tried the last time, because the usual cures had stopped working, was to play something completely different. I ended up trying to work out how to play the Andy M Stewart song "At It Again", and trying to make the bowing echo the way Andy puts little twists of expression into his voice on the higher notes. I don't usually play the tunes of songs on my fiddle, nor do I usually try to imitate the effects of the human voice. I didn't succeed at the latter, but I have the tune quite playable and it has a nice lilt to it. And I felt better when I was done.

Oh, the other thing. I was recently given new strings (Evahs --- thank you kind friend, you know who you are!) which I fell totally in love with. I also got a new bow (an Incredibow). Although I wasn't in a dry spell at the time, it totally loosened up my playing. Gave me a huge leg up with tone issues, especially on open strings, and improved my strathspey bowing no end. Had I been feeling stuck and frustrated, it would have popped me right out of that. You might see if your blahs are the result of needing to furbish up your instrument a tad bit?

# Posted on May 11th 2005 by sara g

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Celt, if I go through a dry patch I might spend some time working on a few technical exercises and ignore tunes for a while. That doesn't necessarily always work, so I do something entirely different for a few days and invariably come back refreshed - a week's holiday abroad without the fiddle usually does the trick.
Dry patches are a species of mental tiredness, or even physical tiredness, especially if it applies over a whole range of music. Look at your life style, work commitments etc and see if you can identify a possible cause. You could even be doing too much playing and your brain/body needs a rest, just as an athlete does if he over-trains.
Now inspiration - that's an entirely different matter. To get inspiration I think you need to offer sacrifices to the appropriate Muse - the goddess Euterpe in this case. She's the Muse of flute-playing but I'm sure she'll look benevolently on fiddle-players, especially those who play modal or pentatonic tunes :-)
Of course, there's always Apollo, who has a great interest in music, especially the lyre, but I'd be inclined to approach him carefully. On a good day he's the greatest, but get him on a bad day - the morning after a big party on Olympus for instance, or if he's got girl-friend problems (Calliope, she of the famous House, is one of them), and he can be a right b4st4rd. It's not for nothing that he's also the god of punishment, usually swift and fatal :-(

Trevor

# Posted on May 11th 2005 by lazyhound

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Well, he started out as a mouse-god, at a time when mice were associated with plagues.

Squeak. :-)

# Posted on May 11th 2005 by sara g

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Take it easy. Don't bother looking for inspiration from what you can't do. Look for inspiration in what you can do. Strip it down. Try playing just one note. Just the one. Listen to the sound of it.

Then try playing a tune you know really really well. But not a hard tune. A tune you really love, but is dead easy. Play it really really slowly. And fall back in love with it

# Posted on May 11th 2005 by llig leahcim

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Nice, Michael.

# Posted on May 11th 2005 by sara g

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Having recently discovered the wonders of violinist Roby Lakatos (Gypsy swing/classical) I find it heard to listen to anybody else, and I certainly cannot emulate him, so I don't get much pleasure out of playing fiddle right now. On the other hand, I cannot stop listening to Roby Lakatos, I hope it will inspire me eventually. Keep your chin up Celt and just wait for it all to come back to you.

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by Cath

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And sometimes after a dry season, you start getting into playing again and you find you sound much better than you did before.

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by Cath

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this is going to sound funny, but have you every tried spending time just holding your fiddle for awhile, looking at it, appreciating its shinny varnish etc? Once you realise the beauty of your fiddle and how it is truly not just an instrument but a life partner you will be eager to go elope with it so to speak. My fiddle is the love of my life.
Also try just playing it, but dont play anything in particular, let go and make up songs and dont be afraid of sounding dumb. Those two things always seem to work for me, just play . . .
but then again breaks are nice, but make sure its not just something else in your life that is holding you back. I have stopped playing many a time and forced myself to pick my instrument again. I was always glad I did, cause like I said before, I love my fiddle. Good luck!

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by banana512

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oh and go for the punk music you never know what may happen

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by banana512

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Why not punk? Or a nice tango or gavotte or another form of traditional music from around the globe for a change?

You could always get yourself another string instrument and give it a go...or try a wind or button/key instrument and teach yourself all the tunes you already know. Eventually this may help you when you jump back on the fidil.

Just relax and feel the 'force' running through you.

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by Greenwiggle

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I agree with fiddlemouse, new strings/chin rest/etc are a good reason to get excited about playing again. One of the main sources of my inspiration is other musicians. I went to a new session last week and the energy of the other musicians completely sent me on a fiddling spree and I've learned five or six tunes since. As for the classical... Yeah, I know how that is, I'm classically trained as well... If you're sick of Bach and Vivaldi, try something completely different... Accolay and de Beriot make a nice change. I went through one of these "dry periods" last summer, and this little style change really helped a lot. Don't worry, the dry period will pass. Just relax and enjoy playing.

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by Fiddlekit

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Hi Celt, inspiration isn't something you need to search for. Just open your eyes and you will see it all around you. Listen carefully and you will hear it. Breathe deeply and you will smell it. Touch and you will feel it. Inspiration is in what we do but more importantly in what we don't do. In this time of emptiness you are creating room and absorbing many things unconsciously that will blossom in time. If you want to see a rainbow you must endure the rain. As a composer I go through long periods of nothingness and great moments of inspiration. An inspiration is only a feeling which you have not felt before, or an question you have never answered. It's without doubt a very confusing time when you want to write or play and just cannot! The following is the inaugral speech given by Nelson Mandela when he became president:
"Our deepest fear
is not that we are inadequate.
Our deepest fear is that we are
powerful beyond measure.
It is our light, not our darkness,
that most frightens us.

We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant,
gorgeous, talented and fabulous?
Actually, who are you not to be?
You are a child of God.
Your playing small doesn't serve this world.

There's nothing enlightened about shrinking
so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
We were born to make manifest the glory of God
that is within us;
It is not just in some of us - it's in everyone!
And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people
permission to do the same.
As we are liberated from our own fear,
our presence automatically liberates others!"
If you cannot feel the inspiration in that then try the poem "If" by Rudyard Kipling. Remember, it's only in the darkness do we find the light.
www.mattmcgranaghan.com

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by mattmcgranaghan

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Take a break form playin fiddle maybe even pick up another isntrument and when you come back Fiddle will be so much more enjoyable.

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by Unseen122

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I go through dry spells lots. Usually I just take it as it comes and sometimes dont practice or learn a new tune in 6 months. I never force myself to play but eventunaly I get inspired again and play and play until I get sick of it again. Its normal and everyone goes through it. Its all part of the process.

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by bb

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Roby Lakatos is the don

If you can get to see him live that would certainly be inspirational.

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by nick b

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Sorry to hear you're going through a dry/barren patch.

Maybe, as you've visited this site, if you listened to some traditional Irish fiddling you might feel inspired.

I hope all turns out well for you,
Best wishes,
Brianx

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by briantheflute

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Hey nick b, check www.robylakatos.com for tour dates, and video clips.
Check also his entry on the Deutschegrammophon.de website for more video clips.
I go weak at the knees everytime I hear him play. Just as well I'm sitting down each time I do.
I'm hoping to get BBC Prom tickets to see him at the Royal Albert Hall later this year.

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by Cath

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Cath, I'll see you there if God spares me.

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by ConĂ¡n McDonnell

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Maybe try another instrument for a bit? The obvious suggestion is a mandolin or zouk.

I find myself jumping back & forth between guitar (NOT trad) and flute. . . they are completely and totally different, and complement each other well.

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by wormdiet

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I recently had a shock. My wife, who has been my music playing partner as well for about seven years since she took up the fiddle, announced she is tired of it, and tired of the trad scene in general. I think the problem may be that we entered a band, and the fun of the music got mixed up with the stresses of performing for money, the internal dynamics that all tight-knit groups of people deal with, etc. She says she will still play, but wants to cut back on the number of sessions and concerts we attend--sticking to the ones we like best. I am going to give her some space, and since the group is pretty much dormant in the summer, hopefully she will get to reconnect. So hang in there "Celt," we all have humps to overcome.

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by AlBrown

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sometimes happens to me. I take the fiddle and music just don' come. I use to turn on the pc and begin a free tour around the abcs. there is always a tune, usually one of these out of my mind, one I haven't play since a long time, and it brings the music to me again. Then I play and it can be a magic day when a tune lead to another and another and so.

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by fer

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Hey, all your suggestions are super! I have a feeling I'll come around eventually. I just bought myself a new violin case a few weeks ago and it is one sweet model! Sorry, my enthusiasm for my case is bubling over. I've never tried to play punk music and frankly don't know where to begin. I played "Boulavard of Broken Dreams" and I found out it has three flats. And tonight, I'm off to kill some eardrums as the local noise makers, er, youth orchestra screams out "New World Symphony" as best as is can. To put it lightly, we sound really bad and if it weren't for the fact that I could get a scholarship through this, I would quit and start an Irish group or something. The only thing is that I don't know where to begin nor do I know if I'm good enough. Sure, I get plently of compliments, but they're shallow things. I can never get a straight answer from a stranger. Ah, well.

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by The Celt

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Celt, Get yourself an elecric guitar, learn one chord, then put both the volume and distortion up to full. Now play your chord really loudly, lots of times, whilst yelling some random incomprehendible words really angrily. Result = Punk.
Oh yeah, and also change your name to something like "Death god", and you're there.

I think that after a few days of this, you'll find your way back to Celtic music easily enough....

# Posted on May 12th 2005 by Joe CSS

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I wonder if you're looking for inspiration or validation. Either way, finding it in yourself will prove more durable and valuable than any lip service (however well intended) you get from another person.

And sometimes it's good to just take a long walk. (An hour or a week, or a lifetime, it's up to you.)

# Posted on May 13th 2005 by Will CPT

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Pack it in for a while.
Go fishing for a week - with people who know nothing of real music. Talk about bait and the weather, and the breaking strain of lines.
When you come back you'll be gagging for it. I desperately try not to play the fiddle my self, but a week or two away from the flute proves the old adage ' absence makes the heart fonder'. When I pick her up again, and place her to my lips, and try to fill her with warm air, and start to feel those columns of air bouncing against my fingers again - it's like falling in love for the first time all over again.
And then I can't play for smiling.
Mark

# Posted on May 13th 2005 by Ottery

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Most of the time, I'd like to throw my instrument into a fiery pit. Or at least out in the postman's path on my cul de sac.

# Posted on May 13th 2005 by Sean Logan

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Playing along with other musicians I have not met before
Recording and listening to as much folk as I can from the radio
Listening to as much folk as I can online
Reading through old books for new tunes
Enroll on as many workshops as time allows
Developing my own living tradition by teaching others my favorite tunes (as I play them this month)

# Posted on May 13th 2005 by geoffwright

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I'll get out of this slump one of these days, and I have a feeling it will be pretty soon. Last night, before our youth noise, er, orchestra concert, I stood in a dreary, dim, stairwell all by myself with Belladonna (my fiddle's name) in my hands and tapped my foot on the floor. It made an awsome echo, so I played a tune. I was thinking as I was playing, "Oh my word! When I get my own house I'm going to have a tall, empty room just so I can sound this eiree all the time." It was awesome. It would have been better if two other dudes hadn't caught on and placed themselves at different spots in the stair way. I was especially bad because one of the guys is a collage trombone player. But I got out of my slump and played my heart out for at least five minutes straight. I was really happy and very sweaty afterwards because my fingers were loose. I was sweaty only 'cause we have to wear long sleeved shirts that look really tacky. Anyways.....

# Posted on May 13th 2005 by The Celt

Not that it matters......

Not that it matters, but I'm out of my slump. Thank you all for your suggestions. I appreciate every one of them. :)

# Posted on May 16th 2005 by The Celt

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If I remember right there were some pubs in New Orleans that had sessions; also, a piper that lived there a bit and played but passed away in last two or three years. I recommend red beans and rice myself.

# Posted on May 16th 2005 by I_Fel

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This is a recurring theme here, so it might be helpful to others to hear what helped the turn around for you.

Jim: so now you are the session e-social worker? A six pack always works for me. ;-)

# Posted on May 16th 2005 by CeolCairdeas

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Just joined the site. What did the celt turn back from?

# Posted on May 16th 2005 by copo24

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