I'm quite fascinated by the rituals involved in the Papal elections; ie white smoke for agreement and black smoke if no decision has been reached.
Already, some have argued that such a method is no longer "politically correct" in that "black" has negative connotations here!
Anyway, for a bit of fun, we could try the same thing in session pubs which still have open fires. How about "white smoke" for a good going session with the best tunes and crack? Alternatively, "black smoke" if things aren't going so well; eg "Beware bodhrans" or "Ten guitars present"?
Clearly fiddle players playing too fast would produce their own smoke, caused by excessive friction. This would then serve a self-referential function, similar to the sentence, "This sentence is false".
Does the expression "more papal than the pope" exist in English as it does in German? It could be applied to the odd session member at times...
Don't blame me for Benedict - I didn't vote for him
Blasphemy out of Sodom and the other place. Just because the new Pope plays a bodhran.
As a Man City supporter I now smoke cigars. Very handy for doing a "Joey Barton" when people make bodhran jokes beside me. And I am running out of whistles.
Wormdiet, will you change your name to Diet of Worms?
Let's be careful or this thread will go up in smoke very shortly.
And yes, I've only just checked your profile but Swedish music is very interesting. Ben Paley is an exponent over here.
As we were packing up our instruments at the end of the session tonight, our bodhranist from Co Kerry said he was going straight home to drink the health of the new Pope with 16 benedictines. Of course he'll be absolutely stocious afterwards
Trevor
Well, I for one am very disappointed by the pope's choice of name. Benedict? He could at the very least have continued the legacy of predecessors Pope John and Pope John Paul by calling himself...
Matt, you've killed me. I've never thought of this secret message contained in the pope's name!
Sounds much more credible than St. Malachy's prophecy (his followers didn't take into account that he was Irish, otherwise they would never believed him)
Sounds like another older, traditional Pope. The news here in the U.S. is that water stains in a subway look like the Virgin Mary and the devout see it as a good omen for the new Pope. I am bracing myself for that section of the subway wall to be torn down and be up for sale on eBay for a million dollars.
Slightly off-topic, but if you go to http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0504.html
(a fairly long web page) there is an article towards the end by Bruce Schneier that goes into some detail about the security aspects of the papal election. Basically, he’s saying that it is a manual system that has matured over the centuries and is just about as secure as you can get.
BTW, Bruce Schneier is one of the world's great experts on security matters and cryptography.
No smoke without fire
No smoke without fire
I'm quite fascinated by the rituals involved in the Papal elections; ie white smoke for agreement and black smoke if no decision has been reached.
Already, some have argued that such a method is no longer "politically correct" in that "black" has negative connotations here!
Anyway, for a bit of fun, we could try the same thing in session pubs which still have open fires. How about "white smoke" for a good going session with the best tunes and crack? Alternatively, "black smoke" if things aren't going so well; eg "Beware bodhrans" or "Ten guitars present"?
Please don't delete me. Just a bit of fun.
# Posted on April 19th 2005 by Johnny Jay
Re: No smoke without fire
Or we could get the smokers to produce it - except in Ireland of course.
# Posted on April 19th 2005 by Cath
Re: No smoke without fire
Clearly fiddle players playing too fast would produce their own smoke, caused by excessive friction. This would then serve a self-referential function, similar to the sentence, "This sentence is false".
# Posted on April 19th 2005 by pfft
Re: No smoke without fire
Marathon session relief would produce steam methinks.
# Posted on April 19th 2005 by showaddydadito
Re: No smoke without fire
What colour smoke would you get from a bodhran?
Trevor
# Posted on April 19th 2005 by Trevor Jennings
Re: No smoke without fire
pink smoke
# Posted on April 19th 2005 by ecidralla
Re: No smoke without fire
Wouldn't that be blue smoke... from Bodhranist detractors?
# Posted on April 19th 2005 by Agnes Nutter
Re: No smoke without fire
Does the expression "more papal than the pope" exist in English as it does in German? It could be applied to the odd session member at times...
Don't blame me for Benedict - I didn't vote for him
# Posted on April 19th 2005 by kuec
Re: No smoke without fire
Blasphemy out of Sodom and the other place. Just because the new Pope plays a bodhran.
As a Man City supporter I now smoke cigars. Very handy for doing a "Joey Barton" when people make bodhran jokes beside me. And I am running out of whistles.
# Posted on April 19th 2005 by bodhran bliss
Re: No smoke without fire
Ratzinger just won the election.
I bet he'd make a good trad head.
"Innovation? what's that?"
# Posted on April 19th 2005 by wormdiet
Re: No smoke without fire
Wormdiet, will you change your name to Diet of Worms?
Let's be careful or this thread will go up in smoke very shortly.
And yes, I've only just checked your profile but Swedish music is very interesting. Ben Paley is an exponent over here.
# Posted on April 19th 2005 by Cath
Re: No smoke without fire
As we were packing up our instruments at the end of the session tonight, our bodhranist from Co Kerry said he was going straight home to drink the health of the new Pope with 16 benedictines. Of course he'll be absolutely stocious afterwards
Trevor
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by Trevor Jennings
Re: No smoke without fire
Hadn't come this way since Benedictus....
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by Cath
Re: No smoke without fire
Cath!
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by Lurcherjohn
Re: No smoke without fire
When the white smoke appeared, the cardinals all went out to celibate.
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by geoffwright
Re: No smoke without fire
Well, I for one am very disappointed by the pope's choice of name. Benedict? He could at the very least have continued the legacy of predecessors Pope John and Pope John Paul by calling himself...
...Pope John Paul George Ringo.
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by Q
Re: No smoke without fire
badoom TSH, matt.
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: No smoke without fire
Joann Paul Gaultier?
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by Conán McDonnell
Re: No smoke without fire
Jean I mean!
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by Conán McDonnell
Re: No smoke without fire
I rather liked Joann Paul Gaultier, though, Conan!
Matt. You're a very bad boy and you deserve a spanking. *smirk*
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: No smoke without fire
Cath, you're a naughty girl too. I'll administer the corporal punishment there if you don't mind.
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by Conán McDonnell
Re: No smoke without fire
Zeens, you have mail!
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by Conán McDonnell
Re: No smoke without fire
Matt, you've killed me. I've never thought of this secret message contained in the pope's name!
Sounds much more credible than St. Malachy's prophecy (his followers didn't take into account that he was Irish, otherwise they would never believed him)
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by Janek
Re: No smoke without fire
would *have* never, even.
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by Janek
Re: No smoke without fire
Yeah, Mea Culpa and all that jazz
# Posted on April 20th 2005 by Cath
Re: No smoke without fire
Wait until he decrees that women are not allowed to post. He has tried to ban them from everything else.
# Posted on April 21st 2005 by bodhran bliss
Re: No smoke without fire
Sounds like another older, traditional Pope. The news here in the U.S. is that water stains in a subway look like the Virgin Mary and the devout see it as a good omen for the new Pope. I am bracing myself for that section of the subway wall to be torn down and be up for sale on eBay for a million dollars.
# Posted on April 21st 2005 by CeolCairdeas
Re: No smoke without fire
He plays piano
# Posted on April 22nd 2005 by Bren
Re: No smoke without fire
Slightly off-topic, but if you go to http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0504.html
(a fairly long web page) there is an article towards the end by Bruce Schneier that goes into some detail about the security aspects of the papal election. Basically, he’s saying that it is a manual system that has matured over the centuries and is just about as secure as you can get.
BTW, Bruce Schneier is one of the world's great experts on security matters and cryptography.
Trevor
# Posted on April 24th 2005 by Trevor Jennings
Re: No smoke without fire
mmmm.. and what's the difference between Ratzinger and Mazinger-Z ?
# Posted on April 25th 2005 by Pello
Re: No smoke without fire
"Mazinger-Z"
?
Trevor
# Posted on April 26th 2005 by Trevor Jennings