I'm looking for tunes (actually reels) that sound a bit jazzy. A friend of mine plays jazz, and we want to do something together... I hope someone can help me on this one.
Not sure how "jazzy" you mean - do you mean reels that have a bit of swing in them, or played in jazz time? Have a look at http://worldfiddlemusic.co.uk/mightycraiconline/ ..scroll down to "jim dorans" - there is a set of reels with a mainstream jazz intro...just an idea. Good luck.
Ceol Cairdas - you're dead right to point out Flook.
If you can find a copy of Davy Spillane's Atlantic Bridge, you'll find some very nice stuff, including reels.
Davy Spillane - Uilleann Pipes/Low Whistles/Hammer Dulcimer/Surprise Guitar
Albert Lee - Electric and Acoustic Lead Guitar / Piano
Bela Fleck - 5-string Banjo
Jerry Douglas - Dobro
Greg Boland - Electric and Acoustic Guitars
Eoghan O'Neill - Electric Bass / Fretless Bass / Acoustin Guitars, Backing Vocals
Christy Moore - Bodhran
Noel Eccles - Percussion
John Donnelley - Drums
Gosh, you could go any number of directions with this. Remember that the jazz standards of the bebop era were for the most part popular tunes which had been chewed up, stripped of their melody lines, reharmonized into bits, and spit back out with new composer credits. Suppose you did that with a nice chewy reel? Paly the tune a time or two as a head, blow for a few choruses, trade fours with the bodhran player, and out on the head. Would that be jazzy? Might be more jazzy if you played it AABA instead of AABB - or maybe you should stick to hornpipes and slides which seem to do a lot of AABA naturally.
Warning: this will probably sound awful to anyone not actually playing, fusion generally does. Don't let that stop you, though, 'cause it's fun if you're doing the playing.
Darn it, now you've got me trying to think of ways to reharmonize the standards. This could cause trouble - if I break fingers trying to remember my 6/9 chords, I'll be coming after you, DR. (With my broken fingers, so don't worry too much)
Brendan Power played Dinny O'Brien's on harmonica as Real Blues Reel on A River of Sound....that recording is listed at this site. Farewell to Connaught is often paired up with Dinny's. But as Jon says there are many directions you could go here.
I've also heard the Flook reel "The Beehive", which sounds very jazzy...when they do it. Thanks for all you're help on this, I've got a lot of homework now... Oh yeah, Jon, I'm sorry for you're fingers beforehand.
you may want to check out Hamish Moore and Dick Lee. Simon Thoumire. Maybe The Easy Club.The Scots seem to be more willing to fuse their trad than the Irish.
It`s very difficult to make jazz n trad in there pure forms mix well.
Alot of altering has to be done to the approach from either end,and even at that it`s hard to make it sound like a singular vision in the music.
I've been involved in alot of experimental groups and have played bebop/trad to free chromatic improv/trad and also with indian and classical and mixtures of the above. some really dodgy sh*t and some of it actually worked at times,and every now and then it actually went somewhere really special for a brief while.
the only way I know is that both(or more) musicians has to have a working knowledge and large vocabulary of improvised,harmonically complex music and traditional music ,and a knowledge of .and hearing capablitiies of the subtleties of those different disciplines,and play alot with a goal in mind and hopefully a sense of communication will arise after some time with critical analysis
Or else,one person posseses both and comes up with a singular vision,built from scratch and carefully composes it using alot experimentation until a result is gotten.
then you've got to find the musicians and that's probably even harder.
I haven't heard it done really well on any consistent basis yet mainly because of the lack of knowledge of each others approaches,
Hamish Moore and Dick Lee did a nice job as far as i can remember,just pipes(scottish small and highland,i think)and Dick lee played saxes and clarinet
not quite ITM but how about some Bluegrass
fiddler Kenny Baker can be quite jazzy
Bela Fleck crosses over
Alison Browne (5 string banjo)
Aubrey Haynie (fiddle)
Hi! I'm also very interested in combination of traditional music with jazz (not only irish but also other like for example breton) and I can recommend to listen to Sin E-"Deep water dropoff" album or Michael McGloldrick's "fused".
And I've got a question related with that topic - I've a record of one track of brilliant concertina player with duble-bass and electric guitar as a rythmic background. The tune is very, very jazzy (based on a slow reel I suppose) and in the middle of the track there's an electric-gutiar solo (a bit similar to Pat Metheny's style). Does anybody know who might be the performer on that track (or an album title)?? I think that track is not very new - for sure recorded some years ago.
I forgot about popular Scottish music. Try Capercaille. I love their VHS tape with a tent concert and the locals dancing in the aisles. Old Blind Dogs is another one. I like the old crew with Close to the Bone and Live. But I have to credit the current incarnation also, especially with pipes added (although Buzzbee's excellent Cittern is gone). Best Wishes.
Jazzy Tunes
Jazzy Tunes
I'm looking for tunes (actually reels) that sound a bit jazzy. A friend of mine plays jazz, and we want to do something together... I hope someone can help me on this one.
# Posted on February 22nd 2005 by Dark Raven
Re: Jazzy Tunes
You might want to listen to Flook. They are an ITM, New Age, Light Jazz hybrid. Rubai is an award winning album. Best Wishes.
# Posted on February 22nd 2005 by CeolCairdeas
Re: Jazzy Tunes
Not sure how "jazzy" you mean - do you mean reels that have a bit of swing in them, or played in jazz time? Have a look at http://worldfiddlemusic.co.uk/mightycraiconline/ ..scroll down to "jim dorans" - there is a set of reels with a mainstream jazz intro...just an idea. Good luck.
Ceol Cairdas - you're dead right to point out Flook.
Jim
# Posted on February 23rd 2005 by Worldfiddler
Re: Jazzy Tunes
Two "jazzy" tunes written by me:
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/4157
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/3934
# Posted on February 23rd 2005 by gian marco
Re: Jazzy Tunes
If you can find a copy of Davy Spillane's Atlantic Bridge, you'll find some very nice stuff, including reels.
Davy Spillane - Uilleann Pipes/Low Whistles/Hammer Dulcimer/Surprise Guitar
Albert Lee - Electric and Acoustic Lead Guitar / Piano
Bela Fleck - 5-string Banjo
Jerry Douglas - Dobro
Greg Boland - Electric and Acoustic Guitars
Eoghan O'Neill - Electric Bass / Fretless Bass / Acoustin Guitars, Backing Vocals
Christy Moore - Bodhran
Noel Eccles - Percussion
John Donnelley - Drums
# Posted on February 23rd 2005 by BarryM
Re: Jazzy Tunes
Gosh, you could go any number of directions with this. Remember that the jazz standards of the bebop era were for the most part popular tunes which had been chewed up, stripped of their melody lines, reharmonized into bits, and spit back out with new composer credits. Suppose you did that with a nice chewy reel? Paly the tune a time or two as a head, blow for a few choruses, trade fours with the bodhran player, and out on the head. Would that be jazzy? Might be more jazzy if you played it AABA instead of AABB - or maybe you should stick to hornpipes and slides which seem to do a lot of AABA naturally.
Warning: this will probably sound awful to anyone not actually playing, fusion generally does. Don't let that stop you, though, 'cause it's fun if you're doing the playing.
Darn it, now you've got me trying to think of ways to reharmonize the standards. This could cause trouble - if I break fingers trying to remember my 6/9 chords, I'll be coming after you, DR. (With my broken fingers, so don't worry too much)
# Posted on February 23rd 2005 by Jon Kiparsky
Re: Jazzy Tunes
Try Dinny O'Brien's and Farewell to Connaught.
Brendan Power played Dinny O'Brien's on harmonica as Real Blues Reel on A River of Sound....that recording is listed at this site. Farewell to Connaught is often paired up with Dinny's. But as Jon says there are many directions you could go here.
# Posted on February 23rd 2005 by Key Maniac Lad
Re: Jazzy Tunes
I've also heard the Flook reel "The Beehive", which sounds very jazzy...when they do it. Thanks for all you're help on this, I've got a lot of homework now... Oh yeah, Jon, I'm sorry for you're fingers beforehand.
# Posted on February 23rd 2005 by Dark Raven
Re: Jazzy Tunes
you may want to check out Hamish Moore and Dick Lee. Simon Thoumire. Maybe The Easy Club.The Scots seem to be more willing to fuse their trad than the Irish.
# Posted on February 23rd 2005 by patrick cavanagh
Re: Jazzy Tunes
guilty
# Posted on February 24th 2005 by P.browne
Re: Jazzy Tunes
It`s very difficult to make jazz n trad in there pure forms mix well.
Alot of altering has to be done to the approach from either end,and even at that it`s hard to make it sound like a singular vision in the music.
I've been involved in alot of experimental groups and have played bebop/trad to free chromatic improv/trad and also with indian and classical and mixtures of the above. some really dodgy sh*t and some of it actually worked at times,and every now and then it actually went somewhere really special for a brief while.
the only way I know is that both(or more) musicians has to have a working knowledge and large vocabulary of improvised,harmonically complex music and traditional music ,and a knowledge of .and hearing capablitiies of the subtleties of those different disciplines,and play alot with a goal in mind and hopefully a sense of communication will arise after some time with critical analysis
Or else,one person posseses both and comes up with a singular vision,built from scratch and carefully composes it using alot experimentation until a result is gotten.
then you've got to find the musicians and that's probably even harder.
I haven't heard it done really well on any consistent basis yet mainly because of the lack of knowledge of each others approaches,
# Posted on February 24th 2005 by P.browne
Re: Jazzy Tunes
Hamish Moore and Dick Lee did a nice job as far as i can remember,just pipes(scottish small and highland,i think)and Dick lee played saxes and clarinet
# Posted on February 24th 2005 by P.browne
Re: Jazzy Tunes
not quite ITM but how about some Bluegrass
fiddler Kenny Baker can be quite jazzy
Bela Fleck crosses over
Alison Browne (5 string banjo)
Aubrey Haynie (fiddle)
# Posted on February 24th 2005 by Cath
Re: Jazzy Tunes
....or Byron Berline, bluegrass fiddler.
Jim
# Posted on February 25th 2005 by Worldfiddler
Re: Jazzy Tunes
Listen to Sam Bartlett's Evil Diane, available from
http://www.sambartlett.com
He composes some interesting hybrid tunes, not quite jazz but coming from an Irish dance music background.
# Posted on February 25th 2005 by Layers
Re: Jazzy Tunes
Liz Carroll's reel "Seven's" has a jazzy feel to it. She has sheet music for it on her website. Tune was recorded on Lost in the Loop.
Aidan Burke has a jazzy feel to his playing and his own tunes. Check out his recording Feel the Bow.
# Posted on February 25th 2005 by Agnes Nutter
Re: Jazzy Tunes
Hi! I'm also very interested in combination of traditional music with jazz (not only irish but also other like for example breton) and I can recommend to listen to Sin E-"Deep water dropoff" album or Michael McGloldrick's "fused".
And I've got a question related with that topic - I've a record of one track of brilliant concertina player with duble-bass and electric guitar as a rythmic background. The tune is very, very jazzy (based on a slow reel I suppose) and in the middle of the track there's an electric-gutiar solo (a bit similar to Pat Metheny's style). Does anybody know who might be the performer on that track (or an album title)?? I think that track is not very new - for sure recorded some years ago.
Bartek
# Posted on February 26th 2005 by celt_pl
Re: Jazzy Tunes
I forgot about popular Scottish music. Try Capercaille. I love their VHS tape with a tent concert and the locals dancing in the aisles. Old Blind Dogs is another one. I like the old crew with Close to the Bone and Live. But I have to credit the current incarnation also, especially with pipes added (although Buzzbee's excellent Cittern is gone). Best Wishes.
# Posted on February 26th 2005 by CeolCairdeas