As in going from the States ~> to Ireland during college.
Has anyone done it before? Can anyone tell me how they went about doing this?
I'm a Junior right now and I'm just planning ahead. I'd LOVE to go to a college in Ireland that majors in Music Education/Traditional Music sometime soon, although I'll wait until maybe my Junior year of College.
Don't forget Britain: you might have more choices of courses there. Ireland is a really nice place to visit for holidays, but you might get bored and sick of music if you stay there for long.
My major was a weird subject called Social History of Art and couldn't find any place for it in Ireland. Then, I decided to take a MA programme in Leeds, England, where I can find quite unique courses in the uni. I heard there is a relatively large Irish community but didn't expect the music scene is so vibrant in the city. I don't miss the uni at all but miss Irish friends and music there.
You know, Irish music and people are sometimes more old-fashioned outside Ireland. And music is less commercialised than in its home.
I went to Kalamazoo College in Michigan (long ago now). The college had and has one of the most flexible study-abroad programs. Dartmouth also has a wonderful program.
I studied abroad in Ireland in 2001. Went through my school, Arcadia University (formerly Beaver College) in Philadelphia. Arcadia (https://www.arcadia.edu) runs study abroad programs for something like 300 colleges and universities around the country, so it's worth checking into.
If that doesn't suit your needs, I have a friend who intially went to college in Tennessee and studied abroad in England. After a semester abroad, he ended up officially transferring to the overseas University. He's been quite happy with that.
Check out National University of Ireland, Limerick. If I'm not mistaken, they're pretty reknown for their ITM program.
Most US universities have study programs. There are also independent organizations that facilitate spending a year, a semester, or even a study abroad.
Jason's right; UL has a fabulous trad music program. I know you can get an MA in performance or weird things like ethnomusicology as post-grad work. That's a year long MA program (which is why I decided to not seriously consider it since I need to be in Ireland significantly longer than a year for some, uh, unique, reasons). They also offer undergrad work in trad music -- I have friends in that program -- but I don't know the specifics of it since I've had no reason to look into it for myself. But if you do a semester or year abroad there while getting an undergrad degree in a US university, you can certainly take courses in the music school. I knew a girl who did that.
I really can't type. The first sentence should just die cause it makes absolutely no sense. I am going to go work on my pipes now. That should end better than my attempts to use the English language.
I work in a study abroad office in London. I'll offer you a couple of suggestions.
It's REALLY good that you have it set in your mind that you are wanting to study abroad. Once you are in University, you should be looking at how to fit your credits around the experience, some programs (majors) are so structured that they make it difficult to study abroad for any length of time.
You have three options depending on your university.
First, go to the study abroad office and see what they have to offer. They can usually give you info on a broad range of opportunities..
If you can't find what you need there, try programs like Butler, Arcadia, etc. These are programs that accept students from all over to study under thier program. The drawback with these programs are that they tend to house and teach you with other American students so you don't get the same type of cultural experience.
If those don't suit your fancy, try ISEP. It's a massive exchange program. You should be able to get details from your college.
My suggestion: Enroll directly with a university of your choice. For example, you can enroll directly NIU Limerick. The downside there is that you don't have your university making all the arrangements for you. You need to get approval from professors and make sure your credit transfers back, but you'll be living and learning like the people who actually attend the school. I think the ITM department at Limerick is pretty savy about helping you with those sorts of details (but not doing it for you).
Limerick, Galway and Queens up North offer Irish Studies with some degree of music. I believe there is a Universty (manchester maybe) in England that also offer some courses based on The Music.
I wouldn't completely rule out England. If you need to study in London because it's easier with your school, try to get into UCL and into the Ifor-Evans Residences. Ifor Evans is not very convienent to the college, but the London Irish Centre is about 100 yards away. You'd be following in the footsteps of at least a couple of really well-known musicians.
Good luck armand, and thanks for asking the question. The information was helpful to me. Im a senior in highschool and I hope to eventually study abroad or transfer to a school in europe for music.
i have a similar situation except i was hoping to go to college overseas for my whole degree, not just a year or a semester. does anyone know if its hard for american students to enroll in irish colleges?
if anyone could send me information about colleges that;d be great. ill be over in ireland this week and i plan on looking at schools. if anyone could tell me which ones are worth checking out id be much obliged.
Hi Armaghfan,
Lets say its safe to assume you are not going to "get bored, or sick of the music"....If your coming to Ireland because you say you like the music then you wont get bored.
There are lots of places to go and study.
What do you study?
This will ultimately effect your location i think.
The best course for studying Irish trad music is in University of Limerick. you also study dance which may or may not be of use. you focus on two instruments and also do sound and other modules related. check out the web address. Its a four year course and less if a masters. i dont understand all of this junior senior stuff, but if you're an undergrad then click on this link, its the UL homepage and the course outline is there. All i know is that its quite expensive for Americans to study here but probably works out the same as paying at home. http://www.ul.ie/admissions/newprospectus/Undergraduate/colleges/humanities/LM030.shtml
hope it all works out for you, Dolly
". . .does anyone know if its hard for american students to enroll in irish colleges?"
That's actually easier than doing so for only a semester or two. Simply apply directly as you would for any domestic college. As an American you don't even require a student visa.
Armaghfan--
Check out University College Cork. They also have an Irish music program, and it's a great city: beautiful, good sessions, and a fun atmosphere and nightlife (besides music Good luck, Margaret
Just being curious about studying abroad...
Just being curious about studying abroad...
As in going from the States ~> to Ireland during college.
Has anyone done it before? Can anyone tell me how they went about doing this?
I'm a Junior right now and I'm just planning ahead. I'd LOVE to go to a college in Ireland that majors in Music Education/Traditional Music sometime soon, although I'll wait until maybe my Junior year of College.
What say you?
Cheers,
Armand
# Posted on February 9th 2005 by fiddlinviolinin
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
Armand,
If you can email me - I can give you the name of someone from this site from the states that went to college in Ireland...
Stefan
# Posted on February 9th 2005 by Hugo Chavez
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
Don't forget Britain: you might have more choices of courses there. Ireland is a really nice place to visit for holidays, but you might get bored and sick of music if you stay there for long.
My major was a weird subject called Social History of Art and couldn't find any place for it in Ireland. Then, I decided to take a MA programme in Leeds, England, where I can find quite unique courses in the uni. I heard there is a relatively large Irish community but didn't expect the music scene is so vibrant in the city. I don't miss the uni at all but miss Irish friends and music there.
You know, Irish music and people are sometimes more old-fashioned outside Ireland. And music is less commercialised than in its home.
# Posted on February 9th 2005 by slainte
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
Slainte
I respect your opinion and your observations but have to say you are way way off here.
# Posted on February 9th 2005 by Hugo Chavez
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
I went to Kalamazoo College in Michigan (long ago now). The college had and has one of the most flexible study-abroad programs. Dartmouth also has a wonderful program.
# Posted on February 9th 2005 by markwilson
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
Bored and sick of the music? That's preposterous! Blasphemy! Trigonometry!
Cheers,
Armand
# Posted on February 10th 2005 by fiddlinviolinin
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
I studied abroad in Ireland in 2001. Went through my school, Arcadia University (formerly Beaver College) in Philadelphia. Arcadia (https://www.arcadia.edu) runs study abroad programs for something like 300 colleges and universities around the country, so it's worth checking into.
If that doesn't suit your needs, I have a friend who intially went to college in Tennessee and studied abroad in England. After a semester abroad, he ended up officially transferring to the overseas University. He's been quite happy with that.
Check out National University of Ireland, Limerick. If I'm not mistaken, they're pretty reknown for their ITM program.
Just a few options. Sure there are others.
# Posted on February 10th 2005 by Jason G
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
Most US universities have study programs. There are also independent organizations that facilitate spending a year, a semester, or even a study abroad.
Jason's right; UL has a fabulous trad music program. I know you can get an MA in performance or weird things like ethnomusicology as post-grad work. That's a year long MA program (which is why I decided to not seriously consider it since I need to be in Ireland significantly longer than a year for some, uh, unique, reasons). They also offer undergrad work in trad music -- I have friends in that program -- but I don't know the specifics of it since I've had no reason to look into it for myself. But if you do a semester or year abroad there while getting an undergrad degree in a US university, you can certainly take courses in the music school. I knew a girl who did that.
Good luck.
# Posted on February 10th 2005 by TheSilverSpear
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
That first sentence should be "study abroad programs." I can't type.
# Posted on February 10th 2005 by TheSilverSpear
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
I really can't type. The first sentence should just die cause it makes absolutely no sense. I am going to go work on my pipes now. That should end better than my attempts to use the English language.
# Posted on February 10th 2005 by TheSilverSpear
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
Armand,
I work in a study abroad office in London. I'll offer you a couple of suggestions.
It's REALLY good that you have it set in your mind that you are wanting to study abroad. Once you are in University, you should be looking at how to fit your credits around the experience, some programs (majors) are so structured that they make it difficult to study abroad for any length of time.
You have three options depending on your university.
First, go to the study abroad office and see what they have to offer. They can usually give you info on a broad range of opportunities..
If you can't find what you need there, try programs like Butler, Arcadia, etc. These are programs that accept students from all over to study under thier program. The drawback with these programs are that they tend to house and teach you with other American students so you don't get the same type of cultural experience.
If those don't suit your fancy, try ISEP. It's a massive exchange program. You should be able to get details from your college.
My suggestion: Enroll directly with a university of your choice. For example, you can enroll directly NIU Limerick. The downside there is that you don't have your university making all the arrangements for you. You need to get approval from professors and make sure your credit transfers back, but you'll be living and learning like the people who actually attend the school. I think the ITM department at Limerick is pretty savy about helping you with those sorts of details (but not doing it for you).
Limerick, Galway and Queens up North offer Irish Studies with some degree of music. I believe there is a Universty (manchester maybe) in England that also offer some courses based on The Music.
I wouldn't completely rule out England. If you need to study in London because it's easier with your school, try to get into UCL and into the Ifor-Evans Residences. Ifor Evans is not very convienent to the college, but the London Irish Centre is about 100 yards away. You'd be following in the footsteps of at least a couple of really well-known musicians.
# Posted on February 10th 2005 by scottcantrell
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
Good luck armand, and thanks for asking the question. The information was helpful to me. Im a senior in highschool and I hope to eventually study abroad or transfer to a school in europe for music.
# Posted on February 10th 2005 by banana512
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
I did actually get sick of music in Ireland several times. If I were you, I would learn Irish (language) as well as musicology. Good luck, Armand.
# Posted on February 10th 2005 by slainte
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
i have a similar situation except i was hoping to go to college overseas for my whole degree, not just a year or a semester. does anyone know if its hard for american students to enroll in irish colleges?
# Posted on February 10th 2005 by armaghfan
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
if anyone could send me information about colleges that;d be great. ill be over in ireland this week and i plan on looking at schools. if anyone could tell me which ones are worth checking out id be much obliged.
# Posted on February 10th 2005 by armaghfan
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
Hmmmmmm.... Gaelic.... I like the idea!!!! GAH!! YES!!!!!!!!
cheers,
Armand
# Posted on February 10th 2005 by fiddlinviolinin
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
Hi Armaghfan,
Lets say its safe to assume you are not going to "get bored, or sick of the music"....If your coming to Ireland because you say you like the music then you wont get bored.
There are lots of places to go and study.
What do you study?
This will ultimately effect your location i think.
# Posted on February 10th 2005 by Hugo Chavez
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
The best course for studying Irish trad music is in University of Limerick. you also study dance which may or may not be of use. you focus on two instruments and also do sound and other modules related. check out the web address. Its a four year course and less if a masters. i dont understand all of this junior senior stuff, but if you're an undergrad then click on this link, its the UL homepage and the course outline is there. All i know is that its quite expensive for Americans to study here but probably works out the same as paying at home.
http://www.ul.ie/admissions/newprospectus/Undergraduate/colleges/humanities/LM030.shtml
hope it all works out for you, Dolly
# Posted on February 10th 2005 by dollyparton#1
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
". . .does anyone know if its hard for american students to enroll in irish colleges?"
That's actually easier than doing so for only a semester or two. Simply apply directly as you would for any domestic college. As an American you don't even require a student visa.
KFG
# Posted on February 11th 2005 by KFG
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
Armaghfan--
Good luck, Margaret
Check out University College Cork. They also have an Irish music program, and it's a great city: beautiful, good sessions, and a fun atmosphere and nightlife (besides music
# Posted on February 12th 2005 by r86
Re: Just being curious about studying abroad...
thanks for all the help, i am an irish citizen and all as well, so what i meant was if i should reside in ireland or what. ill lok into it more...
# Posted on February 18th 2005 by armaghfan