Tonight I am taking a 3-hour fiddle workshop with Martin Hayes. Can anyone tell me what to expect? Any advice on how to really benefit from this great opportunity?
Ive been in a couple of workshops with Martin - he is a very good teacher, he will tell it like it is. If you have a problem with tuning - he'll tell you - not in a mean way or anything. I actually found his comments very helpful - it gave me direction and I knew specifically what I had to work on etc. I would say, tape the whole thing - including the talking, questions, comments etc you'll get so much more out of it if you can go back and listen to it over again & dont be afraid to ask questions. Well now I've finished rambling maybe someone who has some 'good' ideas will say something
Wow, lucky you, Lynn. Workshops are always somewhat problematic, I know many of the players don't really consider it teaching; Kevin Burke says he just throws out a bunch of information and lets people pick and choose what they want to get out of the experience, for instance.
The following bits are things I've learned from organizing music workshops: If the group is small and you're all at roughly the same level, ask lots and lots of questions. If you're all at different levels, then it's up to Martin to figure out what he wants to give you -- if the information is at a different level from you, try to remember that you can often pick up things from the player even if s/he's talking about things over or under your head that still apply to your own level of playing.
I've never taken a lesson from Martin Hayes, but everyone that I know who has has said that he's a really good teacher. Have fun, and tell us how it went!
If you prepare a piece of paper with lots of questions on it, then you will get the
most out of it. Maybe you can even let Martin read it at the beginning, he can get an
idea of what he can teach you - if he wants. If you are prepared, then it can only help
you.
Other than that, leave it to your teacher, and go with the flow.
It was fantastic! He gave us so much more than just a new tune (Mulqueen's -great tune). He spoke about musicianship tone and how to reveal the melody and to feel free to convey the feeling of the tune no matter what our ability level. I have been on Cloud 9 since. And the guitarists tell me that Dennis Cahill was inspiring as well. I am so glad I went.
Almost in tears hearing about it. That is just so wonderful - so glad it was so much more than expected and so great. Amazingly, I think I've had a go at Mulqueen's myself but never had anyone to play it with.
All the best up there on cloud 9.
Cheers
Great, Lynn! So tell us -- what did YOU get out of it? Do you feel your ability to reveal the melody and feeling of a tune has improved? Or your general musicianship? Are you finding that it impacts how you practice? Give, give, give!
I'm glad to hear that Dennis Cahill seems to be holding up well. I can only wish him the best.
Jill, now you have someone to play it with! Load down from http://www.zinalee.com/sounds/mulqueens.mp3. That's Jessica Ziegler of Chicago, and Matt and Shannon Heaton of Boston -- the set is:
Charlie Harris's (Mulqueen's)
Three Steps Forward (Two Steps Back), written by Matt
The Torn Jacket
All three tunes have dots in the tune database here.
Enjoy it, all three are great players! It's one of my favorite sets. Download it and save it to your computer if you like, I'll take it off my server in about a week or when I hear from you that you've finished with it.
Wow! How can I thank you enough Zina. I have downloaded, played it and can't wait to have the time to get to it. But as I said in the other thread, very very hard pressed for time this week till Saturday at least. Everything due on Friday (she says pulling her hair out). Then its a spot of house sitting for a friend and a tad of fiddlin about until July. Thanks, you are like the set: a gem!
Cheers
No troubles, Jill -- glad to share! Know exactly what you mean by pressed for time -- am running like the proverbial chicken round here myself, and since we haven't heard from Will much recently, I'd guess he's on deadline or vacation or something as well -- busy busy busy...
i have internet explorer. i tried typing the link in the window but i get page not available. dont worry its no big deal, just curious as to what is going wrong.
getting the most from a workshop
getting the most from a workshop
Tonight I am taking a 3-hour fiddle workshop with Martin Hayes. Can anyone tell me what to expect? Any advice on how to really benefit from this great opportunity?
# Posted on May 29th 2002 by lcox
Re: getting the most from a workshop
Ive been in a couple of workshops with Martin - he is a very good teacher, he will tell it like it is. If you have a problem with tuning - he'll tell you - not in a mean way or anything. I actually found his comments very helpful - it gave me direction and I knew specifically what I had to work on etc. I would say, tape the whole thing - including the talking, questions, comments etc you'll get so much more out of it if you can go back and listen to it over again & dont be afraid to ask questions. Well now I've finished rambling maybe someone who has some 'good' ideas will say something
# Posted on May 29th 2002 by bb
Re: getting the most from a workshop
Wow, lucky you, Lynn. Workshops are always somewhat problematic, I know many of the players don't really consider it teaching; Kevin Burke says he just throws out a bunch of information and lets people pick and choose what they want to get out of the experience, for instance.
The following bits are things I've learned from organizing music workshops: If the group is small and you're all at roughly the same level, ask lots and lots of questions. If you're all at different levels, then it's up to Martin to figure out what he wants to give you -- if the information is at a different level from you, try to remember that you can often pick up things from the player even if s/he's talking about things over or under your head that still apply to your own level of playing.
I've never taken a lesson from Martin Hayes, but everyone that I know who has has said that he's a really good teacher. Have fun, and tell us how it went!
Zina
# Posted on May 29th 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: getting the most from a workshop
Thanks, bb and Zina! I'm a bit intimidated about the whole thing..... We'll see how it goes!
# Posted on May 29th 2002 by lcox
Re: getting the most from a workshop
Great oportunity to learn, Lynn,
If you prepare a piece of paper with lots of questions on it, then you will get the
most out of it. Maybe you can even let Martin read it at the beginning, he can get an
idea of what he can teach you - if he wants. If you are prepared, then it can only help
you.
Other than that, leave it to your teacher, and go with the flow.
# Posted on May 29th 2002 by dirk
Re: getting the most from a workshop
Green with envy and waiting with baited breath to hear how it goes/went.
Cheers
# Posted on May 31st 2002 by Jill
Re: getting the most from a workshop
It was fantastic! He gave us so much more than just a new tune (Mulqueen's -great tune). He spoke about musicianship tone and how to reveal the melody and to feel free to convey the feeling of the tune no matter what our ability level. I have been on Cloud 9 since. And the guitarists tell me that Dennis Cahill was inspiring as well. I am so glad I went.
# Posted on June 1st 2002 by lcox
Re: getting the most from a workshop
Almost in tears hearing about it. That is just so wonderful - so glad it was so much more than expected and so great. Amazingly, I think I've had a go at Mulqueen's myself but never had anyone to play it with.
All the best up there on cloud 9.
Cheers
# Posted on June 1st 2002 by Jill
Re: getting the most from a workshop
Great, Lynn! So tell us -- what did YOU get out of it? Do you feel your ability to reveal the melody and feeling of a tune has improved? Or your general musicianship? Are you finding that it impacts how you practice? Give, give, give!
I'm glad to hear that Dennis Cahill seems to be holding up well. I can only wish him the best.
Zina
# Posted on June 1st 2002 by Zina Lee
Jill
Jill, now you have someone to play it with! Load down from http://www.zinalee.com/sounds/mulqueens.mp3. That's Jessica Ziegler of Chicago, and Matt and Shannon Heaton of Boston -- the set is:
Charlie Harris's (Mulqueen's)
Three Steps Forward (Two Steps Back), written by Matt
The Torn Jacket
All three tunes have dots in the tune database here.
Enjoy it, all three are great players! It's one of my favorite sets. Download it and save it to your computer if you like, I'll take it off my server in about a week or when I hear from you that you've finished with it.
Zina
# Posted on June 2nd 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: getting the most from a workshop
Wow! How can I thank you enough Zina. I have downloaded, played it and can't wait to have the time to get to it. But as I said in the other thread, very very hard pressed for time this week till Saturday at least. Everything due on Friday (she says pulling her hair out). Then its a spot of house sitting for a friend and a tad of fiddlin about until July. Thanks, you are like the set: a gem!
Cheers
# Posted on June 2nd 2002 by Jill
Re: getting the most from a workshop
PS a really reel gem! Thanks.
# Posted on June 2nd 2002 by Jill
Re: getting the most from a workshop
No troubles, Jill -- glad to share! Know exactly what you mean by pressed for time -- am running like the proverbial chicken round here myself, and since we haven't heard from Will much recently, I'd guess he's on deadline or vacation or something as well -- busy busy busy...
Zina
# Posted on June 3rd 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: downloading sound
zina
when i click on your link above the file plays but i cant seem to save it to my computer (dont get offered any options). any ideas?
unlike you, i'm not busy (we have four days off coz of the queen's silver jubilee)!!
# Posted on June 3rd 2002 by donnchad
Re: getting the most from a workshop
Hmmm. Which browser are you using? Try getting the file going in your browser window, then look for a "save as" option.
Lucky you! Wanna come do some of my work?
Zina
# Posted on June 3rd 2002 by Zina Lee
P.S.
If worse comes to worse, I'll just send you the file.
Zina
# Posted on June 3rd 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: getting the most from a workshop
i have internet explorer. i tried typing the link in the window but i get page not available. dont worry its no big deal, just curious as to what is going wrong.
thanks
# Posted on June 3rd 2002 by donnchad
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zina forget the post above, i did zinalee.com/sounds and was able to get hold of it and its now on my computer
# Posted on June 3rd 2002 by donnchad