I'm a novice, still trying to figure out the difference between a slide and a jig. I was just listening to the Martin Hayes CD with "I buried my wife and danced on her grave" on it, and it "felt" like 12/8 rather than 6/8 to me. To me, it sounded like the phrases were much longer than in a typical jig. "Aha!" thinks I, "perhaps this is a slide!" So, I came here to look it up, and found it classified as a jig.
Can you teach me how to hear the difference between a slide and a jig over the internet? If not, maybe refer me to some recordings?
Good question Sarah, I often times mix them up myself. I buried my wife & danced on her grave is listed here at the session http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/383
It's a double jig in 6/8.
There is a bit of a rhythmic difference a double jig is usually
has more emphasis on the first & fourth beats giving a
DUM-de-duh DUM-de-dah feel to it.
A Slide seems to me to have more emphasis on the first and sixth but the sixth beat doesn't have as much emphasis as the first.
DUM-de-duh dum-de-dah Dum-de-duh dum-de-dah
Slides also have more quater note eight notes in them.
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Martin Hayes has that sweet sound that could make Metallica sound sweet & pleasant, he also plays thing much slower & lilted (swung) than most fiddlers. He could very well be playing it with a slide rhythm - I'm not familier with the recording, but most people know that jig as a Double Jig. Just keep on listening to as much ITM as possible & you'll be able to pick up the difference between the two.
Sarah, the bit where Brad talked about slides having more quarter note-eighth note pairs in is quite important -- around my dance school, we have something of a private joke that calls single jigs (which are often danced to slides) the "pop goes the weaselly ones."
It's also good to know that you can often play a double jig/treble jig as a slide and sometimes vice versa. (Though not so often the latter way.)
Commencing again with 'I'm no expert', but down under slides are almost invariably played the same as double jigs, and I have found myself mumbling: "Oh, gee! I don't play them this way" (but who am I to make waves, with my ITM experience 'over the oceans' and many 'mooncoins' ago?).
My thinking is, because they are 12/8 you should be able to play them with 6/8 but also with 4/8 - do you get my drift? That's why, for instance, there is a 'Road to Lisdoonvana' reel, and a 'Road to Lisdoonvana' slide and they are very similar.
I got one slide, that I really love to play, off a Kevin Burke CD, its called 'The Old Torn Petticoat' and surprise surprise he plays the slide then the reel of the same name following it. Being a pretty good copy cat (sometimes), it comes out as a very exciting piece of music. I actually got to play it solo as the show opener in a little drama production I was involved in a couple of years ago.
Just try it with 'Pop goes the Wease'. You can see that you can play it either 6/8 or 4/8 - therefore, I recon it IS a slide.
Hope it helps. More of them is all I can say.
Cheers
Jig or slide?
Jig or slide?
I'm a novice, still trying to figure out the difference between a slide and a jig. I was just listening to the Martin Hayes CD with "I buried my wife and danced on her grave" on it, and it "felt" like 12/8 rather than 6/8 to me. To me, it sounded like the phrases were much longer than in a typical jig. "Aha!" thinks I, "perhaps this is a slide!" So, I came here to look it up, and found it classified as a jig.
Can you teach me how to hear the difference between a slide and a jig over the internet? If not, maybe refer me to some recordings?
Many thanks,
Sarah
# Posted on May 9th 2002 by x
Re: Jig or slide?
Good question Sarah, I often times mix them up myself. I buried my wife & danced on her grave is listed here at the session
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/383
It's a double jig in 6/8.
There is a bit of a rhythmic difference a double jig is usually
has more emphasis on the first & fourth beats giving a
DUM-de-duh DUM-de-dah feel to it.
A Slide seems to me to have more emphasis on the first and sixth but the sixth beat doesn't have as much emphasis as the first.
DUM-de-duh dum-de-dah Dum-de-duh dum-de-dah
Slides also have more quater note eight notes in them.
Like
A2 B c2 d e2a gfe |
Martin Hayes has that sweet sound that could make Metallica sound sweet & pleasant, he also plays thing much slower & lilted (swung) than most fiddlers. He could very well be playing it with a slide rhythm - I'm not familier with the recording, but most people know that jig as a Double Jig. Just keep on listening to as much ITM as possible & you'll be able to pick up the difference between the two.
# Posted on May 9th 2002 by Mad Baloney
Re: Jig or slide?
listen to beginish or sliabh notes to get a good feel for slides.
cara
# Posted on May 9th 2002 by carafiddle
Re: Jig or slide?
Sarah, the bit where Brad talked about slides having more quarter note-eighth note pairs in is quite important -- around my dance school, we have something of a private joke that calls single jigs (which are often danced to slides) the "pop goes the weaselly ones."
It's also good to know that you can often play a double jig/treble jig as a slide and sometimes vice versa. (Though not so often the latter way.)
Zina
# Posted on May 10th 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: Jig or slide?
I was told that the tune "Pop goes the Weasel" was derived from a Slide.
# Posted on May 10th 2002 by Mad Baloney
Re: Jig or slide?
The feis musicians, to make everyone laugh, will often pull out Pop goes the Weasel during a competition.
Zina
# Posted on May 10th 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: Jig or slide?
Commencing again with 'I'm no expert', but down under slides are almost invariably played the same as double jigs, and I have found myself mumbling: "Oh, gee! I don't play them this way" (but who am I to make waves, with my ITM experience 'over the oceans' and many 'mooncoins' ago?).
My thinking is, because they are 12/8 you should be able to play them with 6/8 but also with 4/8 - do you get my drift? That's why, for instance, there is a 'Road to Lisdoonvana' reel, and a 'Road to Lisdoonvana' slide and they are very similar.
I got one slide, that I really love to play, off a Kevin Burke CD, its called 'The Old Torn Petticoat' and surprise surprise he plays the slide then the reel of the same name following it. Being a pretty good copy cat (sometimes), it comes out as a very exciting piece of music. I actually got to play it solo as the show opener in a little drama production I was involved in a couple of years ago.
Just try it with 'Pop goes the Wease'. You can see that you can play it either 6/8 or 4/8 - therefore, I recon it IS a slide.
Hope it helps. More of them is all I can say.
Cheers
# Posted on May 10th 2002 by Jill