Avoiding Alsatian Fistfights... agus beannacht leat
Avoiding Alsatian Fistfights... agus beannacht leat
I was recently in a small french villiage where I saw a young fella rush up to a girl in a rage and headbutt her... it was awful to see. I went to rush forward into the heat of it - but was help back by my much stronger German friend, who wisely yelled at him instead - which did the trick for the most part.
This has recently reminded me of conflicts in groups - like sessions. If two people are having a discussion that is getting on the nasty side are there any obligations as a by-standard? I know my instinct of 'rushing in to help' is not always ideal. Are you always just messing with something?
Re: Avoiding Alsatian Fistfights... agus beannacht leat
I tend to lean toward "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." But communication is almost always the first resort, physically intervening, the last resort.
Re: Avoiding Alsatian Fistfights... agus beannacht leat
In discussions on this site it can go either way Searai. If you see a bit of argy-bargy and you try to help by attempting to show where the communication has broken down you will sometimes be thanked profusely by both parties, and you will sometimes find that one of the parties involved will come over all paranoid "so you're getting at me too" along with abuse and all sorts of other crap hurled your way. I've had both. In all these situations you need to decide whether your desire to intervene is in the interest of truth and justice, or for some other reason. Stick with truth and justice - you might get hurt and not be able to live with the other people, but you'll be able to live with yourself.
Re: Avoiding Alsatian Fistfights... agus beannacht leat
Dave - that sounds like rather sound advice... I think you're on to something. I have also found the same thing you've described in sessions. Sometimes interveining in a heated discussion helps matters - sometimes not. It is sometimes difficult to really see one's motives - but I'll give that a go & let you know how it works out next time a session breaks into a fistfight.
Avoiding Alsatian Fistfights... agus beannacht leat
Avoiding Alsatian Fistfights... agus beannacht leat
I was recently in a small french villiage where I saw a young fella rush up to a girl in a rage and headbutt her... it was awful to see. I went to rush forward into the heat of it - but was help back by my much stronger German friend, who wisely yelled at him instead - which did the trick for the most part.
This has recently reminded me of conflicts in groups - like sessions. If two people are having a discussion that is getting on the nasty side are there any obligations as a by-standard? I know my instinct of 'rushing in to help' is not always ideal. Are you always just messing with something?
# Posted on October 23rd 2004 by searai
Re: Avoiding Alsatian Fistfights... agus beannacht leat
Keep out of Alsace.
# Posted on October 23rd 2004 by OrganicPeatCreature
Re: Avoiding Alsatian Fistfights... agus beannacht leat
Buy a pair o' brass knuckles.
Or sharpen yer teeth.
:D
-Pádraig
# Posted on October 23rd 2004 by Pádraig
Re: Avoiding Alsatian Fistfights... agus beannacht leat
stay away, or you will stand alone when they are reconciled...
# Posted on October 23rd 2004 by paul95
Re: Avoiding Alsatian Fistfights... agus beannacht leat
I tend to lean toward "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." But communication is almost always the first resort, physically intervening, the last resort.
# Posted on October 23rd 2004 by Miss Lonelyhearts
Re: Avoiding Alsatian Fistfights... agus beannacht leat
In discussions on this site it can go either way Searai. If you see a bit of argy-bargy and you try to help by attempting to show where the communication has broken down you will sometimes be thanked profusely by both parties, and you will sometimes find that one of the parties involved will come over all paranoid "so you're getting at me too" along with abuse and all sorts of other crap hurled your way. I've had both. In all these situations you need to decide whether your desire to intervene is in the interest of truth and justice, or for some other reason. Stick with truth and justice - you might get hurt and not be able to live with the other people, but you'll be able to live with yourself.
Dave
# Posted on October 23rd 2004 by showaddydadito
Re: Avoiding Alsatian Fistfights... agus beannacht leat
Dave - that sounds like rather sound advice... I think you're on to something. I have also found the same thing you've described in sessions. Sometimes interveining in a heated discussion helps matters - sometimes not. It is sometimes difficult to really see one's motives - but I'll give that a go & let you know how it works out next time a session breaks into a fistfight.
# Posted on October 25th 2004 by searai