I suck at knowing the names of tunes. I'm going through session recordings from my trip to the Clare / Galway right now. Anybody out there with a tune-name-oriented brain want to give me a hand naming tracks? Deal is, I email you some MP3 and you name the tunes you can, then I try to learn the tunes and their names at the same time and file them together in my scattered brain.
I've already sent the big long one to Will and Jim, David. If they come up empty you can have a go, but it's awfully time consuming to send the file and half the time it bounces back. Thanks for the offer though.
I sent this to Kerri already, but for the benefit of anyone else who gets the mp3, the tunes in the long one were:
1. The Glory Reel
2. John Mhosey McGinley's, a.k.a. the Heathery Cruach
3. The Glen Road to Carrick
4. Woman of the House on the Floor
Kerri - count me in when you get your next consignment of tunes.
Just in case you are mistaking this for kindness, I should say that there is not a shred of altruism in my willingness to come to your assistance - there's plenty in for me. Firstly, if there are any tunes which are new to me, then I get to add them to my repertoire. Secondly, if I know the tunes but not their names, then it gives me an incentive to do a bit of research and find them out for myself. Thirdly, if I know the names already, then I get to congratulate myself on my capacity to absorb and retain unnatural amounts of useless information.
Even more strangely, the only one I would play at a pinch would be #2. They're all northern tunes..or at least within the cannon of (mostly) fiddle players around the 9 counties of Ulster. Not my thing, but fair play to anyone who can give them respectable licks.
Jack, sorry but I don't have web space to post things on. Kerri may have reason not to post the mp3s publicly as well--sounds to me like some "name" players (and I'd hazard a guess as to two of them) on the mp3 I received. Even assuming Kerri got permission to record them, they might not appreciate it showing up on the web-for-all.
Yes, Bhean a Ti Lar - I've seen various translations for that, the most common being Woman of the House on the Floor. Cracking tune.
I did get permission, as a matter of fact, although they kept saying "it's on the album" whenever I asked about a tune. (I think that might have been a hint). I only recorded seven minutes in a long, long night.
In retrospect I wish I'd caught some stumpers. Apparently these are too easy. I'll have to start digging a little deeper. Or recording more obnoxiously.
Feel free to send tunes to me as well, can't guaruntee I'll be able to help, but would certainly appreciate some new tunes - and the motivation to find the names.
Kerri - that I happened to know the tunes is a bit of a lark. I keep playing Brendan Tonra's even though no one I've played it for has ever admitted to knowing it. Seems to be more of an East Coast (US) tune - good to hear that it's played in Canberra. And the Gallowglass is just a very distinctive jig.
Mayor Harrison's Fedora is also not widely played around my stomping grounds, but you do hear it. Aimee and Richard have almost convinced me to play the third part.
Your seven minute reel set from Ennis would be familiar to anyone who dabbles in Donegal tunes. And it was a dead giveaway about who the fiddler was, playing these tunes in Ennis. Which made it even easier to suss out the tunes. Something of a family repertoire, you see, passed down from father to daughter.
Just remember, one person's stumpers are another's old war horses.
And you should be thrilled about getting the Ennis set on disk--it's brilliant playing, chock full of wonderful fiddling that breathes life into well worn tunes. It's certainly inspired me to listen close to catch some of her variations. Great stuff.
I am thrilled to have it on tape, but that's nothing compared to how thrilled I am to have been there. They were playing in that pub just about every night, and that was the first time we sat with them. Best seats in the house.
(Note how I say "sat" with them instead of "played" with them.)
Yes, no doubt the recording captures only a smidgeon of the music and craic and atmosphere, and even that's grand. Good memories for you--good vibes stored at the molecular level. Good on you, Kerri, and thanks for sharing!
So it was Siobhan and Murty then. Sounds great, and it sounds like it may have been a "public performance"... or was it a session? (were there any noodlers present?) *wink* At any rate, they were in attendance in many of the sessions I enjoyed around Ennis the times I was there. I'm very much looking forward to meeting them and enjoying their tunes again in November.
If I'm a noodler, yes, there was a noodler present, but I wasn't noodling at the time. It *was* a public performance, in fact. Bought and paid for, tight, and closed. The open sessions in Ennis were ridiculous.
I mean, ridiculously big. There were a lot of musicians in town, sometimes filling half a bar. There were a lot of nice house sessions though. It was summer, after all. I'll bet it will be much nicer in November.
I went to Siobhan and Murty's session in Cruise's last year, on the Friday before Willie Week. There was only the two of them, Cyril O'Donoghue on bouzouki and an Italian bodhran player (a tasteful one) whose name I forget. I sheepishly asked if they minded my joining them, and they did not hesitate in saying yes. I confess, I had no idea who they were at the time - anyone could be called Siobhan, and Murty, well, there are surely a few more of them about (In fact, I realised a few weeks later whom I had been playing with when I saw their faces on a CD cover). They didn't seem to find my playing offensive at all. I didn't noodle.
I know that guy! The Italian bodhran player! I forget his name too, though, because I am also crap with people names. He was working at the hostel. Nice guy. So you might have been in Ennis about the same time I was there. Small world.
Looking for help with tune names
Looking for help with tune names
I suck at knowing the names of tunes. I'm going through session recordings from my trip to the Clare / Galway right now. Anybody out there with a tune-name-oriented brain want to give me a hand naming tracks? Deal is, I email you some MP3 and you name the tunes you can, then I try to learn the tunes and their names at the same time and file them together in my scattered brain.
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Looking for help with tune names
Will, where are you? That's it, I'm going hunting.
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Looking for help with tune names
(raises hand)
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Phantom Button
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OK, yer on, Jack. First set comin' right up. I'll just scooch over into the members section and send you an email...
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Just watch out for my flying monkeys.
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Kerri Brown
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Sure. watch for an email through the site in about two minutes.
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Except you have to stop calling me teacher. I'm trying to get taught. You're making me feel all backwards.
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Kerri Brown
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Sorry...just in from my local sesh. Yes! Send me mp3s and I'll help with names wherever I can. You know where to find me.
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Will Harmon
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Hey... where's my mp3?
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Phantom Button
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Make 7 or 8 MB of room in your mailbox, Jack. I sent a smaller (but not as good) recording to keep you busy in the mean time.
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Looking for help with tune names
Can I have a go?
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by CreadurMawnOrganig
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..and do I have permission to keep the tunes once I've found names for them?
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by CreadurMawnOrganig
Re: Looking for help with tune names
I've already sent the big long one to Will and Jim, David. If they come up empty you can have a go, but it's awfully time consuming to send the file and half the time it bounces back. Thanks for the offer though.
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Looking for help with tune names
Bummer. Hey Kerri, ring me and play it over the phone.
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Phantom Button
Re: Looking for help with tune names
I sent this to Kerri already, but for the benefit of anyone else who gets the mp3, the tunes in the long one were:
1. The Glory Reel
2. John Mhosey McGinley's, a.k.a. the Heathery Cruach
3. The Glen Road to Carrick
4. Woman of the House on the Floor
All in the archives here I believe.
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Will Harmon
Re: Looking for help with tune names
Thank you Mr. Harmon. Would you like some more?
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Looking for help with tune names
I guess what Kerri sent me was from a different medley because it definately wasn't The Heathery Cruach.
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Phantom Button
Re: Looking for help with tune names
what is a tune name?
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Test
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Kerri - yep, send me more. My bandwith laughs at your tiny files.
So who was playing in this session? Some stellar box and fiddle going on there--reminds me of Maiden Voyage (hint, hint).
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Will Harmon
Re: Looking for help with tune names
Hey Will, do you have any web-space you can put the file on so I can download it with my teenie dial-up bandwidth?
# Posted on October 20th 2004 by Phantom Button
Re: Looking for help with tune names
Kerri - count me in when you get your next consignment of tunes.
Just in case you are mistaking this for kindness, I should say that there is not a shred of altruism in my willingness to come to your assistance - there's plenty in for me. Firstly, if there are any tunes which are new to me, then I get to add them to my repertoire. Secondly, if I know the tunes but not their names, then it gives me an incentive to do a bit of research and find them out for myself. Thirdly, if I know the names already, then I get to congratulate myself on my capacity to absorb and retain unnatural amounts of useless information.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by CreadurMawnOrganig
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Jack I sent you a junior one. I sent Jim and Will the Super Sized one. I'm getting a few more together, so keep yer eyes (ears?) open.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Looking for help with tune names
Did I say too much?
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by CreadurMawnOrganig
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Go check your email, david.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Kerri Brown
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Strangely, 1, 3 & 4 I know that I know from the titles...whether I can play them...I'll get back to you once I've checked the database here..
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Rudall the time
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Golly, I'm a junior now... I can't wait to grow up.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Phantom Button
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Even more strangely, the only one I would play at a pinch would be #2. They're all northern tunes..or at least within the cannon of (mostly) fiddle players around the 9 counties of Ulster. Not my thing, but fair play to anyone who can give them respectable licks.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Rudall the time
Re: Looking for help with tune names
A Bhean a'Tí ar Lár? Smashing tune... Altan played it on Another sky... Still have to learn the blody thing...
-Pádraig
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Pádraig
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Jack, sorry but I don't have web space to post things on. Kerri may have reason not to post the mp3s publicly as well--sounds to me like some "name" players (and I'd hazard a guess as to two of them) on the mp3 I received. Even assuming Kerri got permission to record them, they might not appreciate it showing up on the web-for-all.
Yes, Bhean a Ti Lar - I've seen various translations for that, the most common being Woman of the House on the Floor. Cracking tune.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Will Harmon
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I would just be web-for-me
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Phantom Button
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IT would even
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Phantom Button
Re: Looking for help with tune names
I did get permission, as a matter of fact, although they kept saying "it's on the album" whenever I asked about a tune. (I think that might have been a hint). I only recorded seven minutes in a long, long night.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Kerri Brown
In retrospect I wish I'd caught some stumpers. Apparently these are too easy. I'll have to start digging a little deeper. Or recording more obnoxiously.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Looking for help with tune names
Hi Kerri,
Feel free to send tunes to me as well, can't guaruntee I'll be able to help, but would certainly appreciate some new tunes - and the motivation to find the names.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by jkneale
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Kerri - that I happened to know the tunes is a bit of a lark. I keep playing Brendan Tonra's even though no one I've played it for has ever admitted to knowing it. Seems to be more of an East Coast (US) tune - good to hear that it's played in Canberra. And the Gallowglass is just a very distinctive jig.
Mayor Harrison's Fedora is also not widely played around my stomping grounds, but you do hear it. Aimee and Richard have almost convinced me to play the third part.
Your seven minute reel set from Ennis would be familiar to anyone who dabbles in Donegal tunes. And it was a dead giveaway about who the fiddler was, playing these tunes in Ennis. Which made it even easier to suss out the tunes. Something of a family repertoire, you see, passed down from father to daughter.
Just remember, one person's stumpers are another's old war horses.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Will Harmon
Re: Looking for help with tune names
And you should be thrilled about getting the Ennis set on disk--it's brilliant playing, chock full of wonderful fiddling that breathes life into well worn tunes. It's certainly inspired me to listen close to catch some of her variations. Great stuff.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Will Harmon
Re: Looking for help with tune names
I am thrilled to have it on tape, but that's nothing compared to how thrilled I am to have been there. They were playing in that pub just about every night, and that was the first time we sat with them. Best seats in the house.
(Note how I say "sat" with them instead of "played" with them.)
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Looking for help with tune names
Yes, no doubt the recording captures only a smidgeon of the music and craic and atmosphere, and even that's grand. Good memories for you--good vibes stored at the molecular level. Good on you, Kerri, and thanks for sharing!
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Will Harmon
Re: Looking for help with tune names
OK, we'd better stop raving about it, Will. We'll make Jack all depressed about the size of his band width.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Looking for help with tune names
So it was Siobhan and Murty then. Sounds great, and it sounds like it may have been a "public performance"... or was it a session? (were there any noodlers present?) *wink* At any rate, they were in attendance in many of the sessions I enjoyed around Ennis the times I was there. I'm very much looking forward to meeting them and enjoying their tunes again in November.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Phantom Button
Re: Looking for help with tune names
If I'm a noodler, yes, there was a noodler present, but I wasn't noodling at the time. It *was* a public performance, in fact. Bought and paid for, tight, and closed. The open sessions in Ennis were ridiculous.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Looking for help with tune names
What do you mean "The open sessions in Ennis were ridiculous."?
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Phantom Button
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Kerri..... hello?
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Phantom Button
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I mean, ridiculously big. There were a lot of musicians in town, sometimes filling half a bar. There were a lot of nice house sessions though. It was summer, after all. I'll bet it will be much nicer in November.
# Posted on October 21st 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Looking for help with tune names
I went to Siobhan and Murty's session in Cruise's last year, on the Friday before Willie Week. There was only the two of them, Cyril O'Donoghue on bouzouki and an Italian bodhran player (a tasteful one) whose name I forget. I sheepishly asked if they minded my joining them, and they did not hesitate in saying yes. I confess, I had no idea who they were at the time - anyone could be called Siobhan, and Murty, well, there are surely a few more of them about (In fact, I realised a few weeks later whom I had been playing with when I saw their faces on a CD cover). They didn't seem to find my playing offensive at all. I didn't noodle.
# Posted on October 22nd 2004 by CreadurMawnOrganig
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Kerri - Thanks for the tunes. I'll set to work right away.
# Posted on October 22nd 2004 by CreadurMawnOrganig
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I know that guy! The Italian bodhran player! I forget his name too, though, because I am also crap with people names. He was working at the hostel. Nice guy. So you might have been in Ennis about the same time I was there. Small world.
# Posted on October 22nd 2004 by Kerri Brown
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The operative sentence: "I didn't noodle"
# Posted on October 22nd 2004 by Phantom Button
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I've seen David in Kilrush. He wasn't noodling there, either.
Trevor
# Posted on October 22nd 2004 by Trevor Jennings