Well, if you have access to the all-song reprint compliations from "Sing Out" magazine (sorry, mine are all packed away in storage) TRB is there, i believe, complete with tune.
OK, here you go: "Hi Ho, The Rattlin' Bog": "Sing Out" Vol.38, No.4, page 80. You can buy the lead sheet only for $3 or the whole issue from: www.singout.org.
Do you think this song is a bit cliche or something?
I am collecting songs to use for an out-door education campfire sing-along. I have used this song before and the kiddies have liked this in the past and I thought I might just enhance thier experience with a small set of tunes following the song.
Some kids these days lack culture. Some have never even participated in a campfire sing- along.
I will search for the songs that you suggested. Except for Danny Boy.
Laura
So I do not think Danny Boy would not be all that impressive.
For kids, The Rattlin' Bog is just fine -- they get a kick out of trying to sing it faster and faster and faster, I wouldn't worry about cliche or not. As for a tune, just about any polka that you like would work fine.
And in a non-english-speaking country like Sweden I assure you that the Ratling Bog works equally fine for adults! They just love to hear it go faster and faster. Who said that Swedes were dull and serious (the Ingmar Bergman-way). We are truly childish!
lars
I think I can post it... I will try..
I am so proud of myself....
Pat me on the back..
Last night I just started figuring out the abc2win program after how long.... I had it? And what was I working on? Rattlin' Bog.
Oh also thanks zina, I went on a polka search... was that fun.
I found two tunes that I was familiar with and they seem to fit nicely.
Britches Full Of Stitches and The Maids Of Ardagh.
A question about polkas... I always thought that polkas were umpa, umpa, tunes from Germany.
What is a polka? Are they just set dance tunes of many nationalities?
Check the new tunes out.
I posted the rattlin bog there.
Yippie! the only hitch that I discovered was the defalt setting could not be changed from 1/8 to 1/16 which it is written in.
oops there was another one. I had to open it up as a text first in word save it as a text file then open it in the abc2win program as a text. From there you can save it as an abc file.
And if you already know that... well perhaps another veiwer did not.
Ah, Britches Full of Stitches...Brad's favorite. *grin* (I'm kidding there, and teasing Brad, our resident curmudgeon, Laura.)
One of my favorite postings ever was Brad passing on a philosophy of another player friend who says that people who know all the names of polkas are *!@#%'s. Heh.
A polka, like a reel or a jig or whatever, is a kind of dance, and I don't know where they originated. They're not actually a set dance in the Irish sense (either of them). They're usually written in 4/4 and played in 2/4, although of course talking about meter in relationship to Irish trad can be a losing battle. They are usually a lot simpler than reels in construction, and are played faster.
Insofar as I know, no one really truly knows for sure which came first -- the music or the dances. For all I know, they evolved together.
Anyway, "Rattlin' Bog" is a polka as well as a song. That's why other polkas tend to work with it better than a reel.
I just looked up what Curmudgeon means on 'Words' theasarus (I'm a bit stupid)
Your friends call you a vulgar person, boor, oaf, cad, lout, clod and/or jerk. What do your enemies call you?
The thessaurus is for finding "similar" words. The dictionary is where you go to see what a word means. I use http://www.m-w.com. Here's the definitions for curmudgeon:
Pronunciation: (")k&r-'m&-j&n
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
Date: 1577
1 archaic : miser
2 : a crusty, ill-tempered, and usually old man
- cur·mud·geon·li·ness /-lE-n&s/ noun
- cur·mud·geon·ly /-lE/ adjective
You can see, for sure it was definition #2 that Zina had in mind.
It seems like polkas exist in most cultures in northern Europe and of course North America. Obviously they origin from a Polish dance. Just like the Schottische comes from Scotland. In Sweden we dance schottis (scottische) engelskor ("englishe") polkor (polkas) and polskor (also from Poland but a completely different dance, nowadays the most unique of the Swedish styles ). All of them are specific Swedish or Scandinavian, but have influences from a dance from another country.
I have no idea about the differences between Swedish and Irish Polka-dancing, but it's easy for me to recognize an Irish tune as a polka.
lars
On the Chiffandfipple site where I frequently visit I learned this word.
Doppelschlag.... means an ornament consisting of a group of four or five notes that turn around the principle note. You know those little side way S that you see on some tunes. I guess it's German for a turn around.
I think it's a pretty cool word... I feel like I should be raising a stien of beer and saying it in place of cheers.
There an Irish children's album called The Seal Maiden, which features some beautiful tunes and includes alternate words for the rattlin' bog tune...I think the song is called the Salty Wave.
I'll check when I get home this evening and try and get more details if you're interested.
Looking for a tune
Looking for a tune
Hello,
I am looking for a tune that will fit well with "The Rattlin' Bog"
Any suggestions?
Laura
# Posted on March 4th 2002 by hillfolk
Re: Looking for a tune
The polka called "69th Street" would follow it nicely, I think.
# Posted on March 6th 2002 by irishbanjoboy
Re: Looking for a tune
Well, if you have access to the all-song reprint compliations from "Sing Out" magazine (sorry, mine are all packed away in storage) TRB is there, i believe, complete with tune.
# Posted on March 8th 2002 by cliff
Re: Looking for a tune
OK, here you go: "Hi Ho, The Rattlin' Bog": "Sing Out" Vol.38, No.4, page 80. You can buy the lead sheet only for $3 or the whole issue from: www.singout.org.
# Posted on March 8th 2002 by cliff
Re: Looking for a tune
How about "Irish Washerwoman," or "Gary Owen," or Danny Boy?"
# Posted on March 10th 2002 by rarii22
Re: Looking for a tune
O'Connors Polka works well.
# Posted on March 10th 2002 by Rhlloydbgf
Re: Looking for a tune
Thank you for your comments on the subject.
I think I detect a little sarcasum from rarii22.
Do you think this song is a bit cliche or something?
I am collecting songs to use for an out-door education campfire sing-along. I have used this song before and the kiddies have liked this in the past and I thought I might just enhance thier experience with a small set of tunes following the song.
Some kids these days lack culture. Some have never even participated in a campfire sing- along.
I will search for the songs that you suggested. Except for Danny Boy.
Laura
So I do not think Danny Boy would not be all that impressive.
# Posted on March 11th 2002 by hillfolk
Re: Looking for a tune
Hi Laura:
For kids, The Rattlin' Bog is just fine -- they get a kick out of trying to sing it faster and faster and faster, I wouldn't worry about cliche or not. As for a tune, just about any polka that you like would work fine.
Zina
# Posted on March 11th 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: Looking for a tune
And in a non-english-speaking country like Sweden I assure you that the Ratling Bog works equally fine for adults! They just love to hear it go faster and faster. Who said that Swedes were dull and serious (the Ingmar Bergman-way). We are truly childish!
lars
# Posted on March 11th 2002 by lars
Re: Looking for a tune
Could the tune-" The Rattlin' Bog" be posted in the 'Tunes' section?
Interested to see it , as I have not heard it yet.
# Posted on March 11th 2002 by imogenus
Re: Looking for a tune
I think I can post it... I will try..
I am so proud of myself....
Pat me on the back..
Last night I just started figuring out the abc2win program after how long.... I had it? And what was I working on? Rattlin' Bog.
Oh also thanks zina, I went on a polka search... was that fun.
I found two tunes that I was familiar with and they seem to fit nicely.
Britches Full Of Stitches and The Maids Of Ardagh.
A question about polkas... I always thought that polkas were umpa, umpa, tunes from Germany.
What is a polka? Are they just set dance tunes of many nationalities?
Laura
# Posted on March 12th 2002 by hillfolk
Re: Looking for a tune
Hey Imogenus,
Check the new tunes out.
I posted the rattlin bog there.
Yippie! the only hitch that I discovered was the defalt setting could not be changed from 1/8 to 1/16 which it is written in.
oops there was another one. I had to open it up as a text first in word save it as a text file then open it in the abc2win program as a text. From there you can save it as an abc file.
And if you already know that... well perhaps another veiwer did not.
The lyrics you can find at
www.granfolkies.com/ssmp.htm
Laura
# Posted on March 12th 2002 by hillfolk
Re: Looking for a tune
Ah, Britches Full of Stitches...Brad's favorite. *grin* (I'm kidding there, and teasing Brad, our resident curmudgeon, Laura.)
One of my favorite postings ever was Brad passing on a philosophy of another player friend who says that people who know all the names of polkas are *!@#%'s. Heh.
A polka, like a reel or a jig or whatever, is a kind of dance, and I don't know where they originated. They're not actually a set dance in the Irish sense (either of them). They're usually written in 4/4 and played in 2/4, although of course talking about meter in relationship to Irish trad can be a losing battle. They are usually a lot simpler than reels in construction, and are played faster.
Insofar as I know, no one really truly knows for sure which came first -- the music or the dances. For all I know, they evolved together.
Anyway, "Rattlin' Bog" is a polka as well as a song. That's why other polkas tend to work with it better than a reel.
Zina
# Posted on March 12th 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: Looking for a tune
I just looked up what Curmudgeon means on 'Words' theasarus (I'm a bit stupid)
Your friends call you a vulgar person, boor, oaf, cad, lout, clod and/or jerk. What do your enemies call you?
# Posted on March 12th 2002 by bootboy
Curmudgeon
Boot Boy,
The thessaurus is for finding "similar" words. The dictionary is where you go to see what a word means. I use http://www.m-w.com. Here's the definitions for curmudgeon:
Pronunciation: (")k&r-'m&-j&n
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
Date: 1577
1 archaic : miser
2 : a crusty, ill-tempered, and usually old man
- cur·mud·geon·li·ness /-lE-n&s/ noun
- cur·mud·geon·ly /-lE/ adjective
You can see, for sure it was definition #2 that Zina had in mind.
# Posted on March 12th 2002 by glauber
Re: Looking for a tune
It seems like polkas exist in most cultures in northern Europe and of course North America. Obviously they origin from a Polish dance. Just like the Schottische comes from Scotland. In Sweden we dance schottis (scottische) engelskor ("englishe") polkor (polkas) and polskor (also from Poland but a completely different dance, nowadays the most unique of the Swedish styles ). All of them are specific Swedish or Scandinavian, but have influences from a dance from another country.
I have no idea about the differences between Swedish and Irish Polka-dancing, but it's easy for me to recognize an Irish tune as a polka.
lars
# Posted on March 12th 2002 by lars
Re: Looking for a tune
I am just learning new words everywhere I go.
On the Chiffandfipple site where I frequently visit I learned this word.
Doppelschlag.... means an ornament consisting of a group of four or five notes that turn around the principle note. You know those little side way S that you see on some tunes. I guess it's German for a turn around.
I think it's a pretty cool word... I feel like I should be raising a stien of beer and saying it in place of cheers.
Laura
# Posted on March 12th 2002 by hillfolk
Re: Looking for a tune
Hi Laura,
There an Irish children's album called The Seal Maiden, which features some beautiful tunes and includes alternate words for the rattlin' bog tune...I think the song is called the Salty Wave.
I'll check when I get home this evening and try and get more details if you're interested.
Andy
# Posted on March 12th 2002 by Mcbear365
Re: Looking for a tune
Andy,
Yes I am very much interested!!!!
Laura
# Posted on March 12th 2002 by hillfolk
Re: Looking for a tune
Hi Laura...did you get the mail with the details of the Seal Maiden??
If not, let me know and I'll re-send it.
Andy
# Posted on March 15th 2002 by Mcbear365
Re: Looking for a tune
Thanks Andy,
I sent you an email.
Laura
# Posted on March 19th 2002 by hillfolk