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"People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
"People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
"People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do." from a gorgeous song by Ani Di Franco.
being a newby to this forum ( well in this life anyway) I was wondering where all this "talk" started about traditional music?
Do you think that my grandparents dancing at the crossroads near Kilmovee, Co. Mayo would gather to oneside and berate the fiddle player for playing in that 'hateful Clare style" , and "that accordion player, can't he forget that he once played in a marching band in Lisburn !"
~~~~ OR ..do you think they just got on with the job at hand and danced and had a good time ???
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They probably did all three. The Irish are generally really *good* at talking, so they probably did so in a very literate manner, too. And they probably poached what they liked from the playing they heard, and laughed about what they didn't.
The ironic thing about the quote you've selected, of course, is that Ani Di Franco is talking about what she does, rather than going out and doing.
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aarrghhhhh!!!
that was just a quote nothing else and that's not what I'M talking about !
Zina i think you have missed the point somewha !!!!
i am not talking about Ani Di Franco i am questioning why so many people 'talk' about ITM rather than do it! and why do people feel such a need to criticise and theorise and make up all sorts of notions when the people that "do it" ..don't.
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So, AB. Let me see if I've got it right. You've chanced upon this group of people who are doing something that's pretty inane, in your view, and you've come to tell us to get a life?
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Interesting... it seems we are being berated for talking about music by someone who wants to talk about talking about music. Ooops. I suspect I may be guilty of having just talked about someone who wants to talk about our talking about music. When will it end?!
Wow. this is so meta. It's like we're all starring in a postmodernism textbook.
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LOL! I just want to say - I love you guys. Just came back from shutting up and doing all day long. Sad day for the flames but great day for being drunk and learning quebecois tunes.
Arse, I play my fiddle all day, using scores from the site as a reference, learning aide and reminder. When I get tired or need to eat I swap ideas with some friends. Then I play more tunes.
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
I guess there's always been "talkers" and "doers" but probably the majority do both. Having said that there's probably no harm (and we need to a certain extent) some academics, organisers, reviewers, publicists and the such to discuss and promote the music, as long as they and everyone else realise that the music itself is the most important and it should be a "living thing"
Even the grandparents at the crossroads(not necessarily yours "bottomcookie" would have done a bit of talking too. Maybe, something like "Sure, I'm so proud of our Sean on the fiddle. Everyone's out of tune/time except him"
I'd say that the majority of those here-even those who do the most talking-- play a helluva lot as well, perhaps with different abilities but they still do. I know I do, although I'll admit my repetoire isn't exclusively Irish.
Probably, many of the people here aren't big "talkers" as a rule but the medium makes it easier for us to get our points of view across.
By the way, there is a third way you haven't mentioned. "Listening". We should be doing a lot of that too but preferably to the music.
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I'm just after "doing" for the last 7 hours. We had some tunes at a friend's house. We've been eating and drinking and talking and playing tunes... urm... what was the question again?
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Jack the question (I think) was "Aren't you a loser for talking about playing music instead of playing", and we, both drunk after playing music all night, are trying to understand the question. Sorry, Arse, what was the question?
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Maybe ArseBiscuit had pedants and gossips in mind, which is what you see at some sessions. I think some of us might be guilty of style snobbery and perhaps someone who went to a dance at the crossroads just went there to have fun and didn't bother analysing the music.
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It's not exactly like there are scores of people out there in my daily life who want to wax on about ITM. I don't even bother trying to defend it to my co-workers who'd much rather have me not torment them with my bootleg seissiun tapes. No one is impressed by the sound of my new Sindt A/Bb set. It's not like anyone really give a hoot that my rolls are comming along or that the E string on my banjo is to slinky and I can't dig into it like I want to...Theseissiun at least gives me a forum and chance to ask questions and to read what others who share my obsession think about it.
I'll "shut up" now and play my whistle, but I have to drive to a parking lot because it's early and the wife will kill me if I start up now. I cant stop thinking about the Earl's Chair.
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Yes, Paul. Even those non musician friends who actually like (or, maybe tolerate)listening to the music are only interested in the "finished article" or what they think it is. They're not interested in all the intricacies, problems, and theories behind it all.
If I'm having a bad day with my ornaments or my strings are "playing me up", they're not too interested. To them, it's just a case of the music being crap.
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Dare I say that ArseBizkit's contribution, despite the obvious paradox in his ridiculing the contributors to boards like this, may contain a teensy weensie bit of truth.
One might think that anyone who spent large amounts of their time playing at sessions would need to spend the rest of their time doing the other things (and thinking about other things) that make for a rounded existence - i.e. the more time spent playing = the less time left for talking about it. I think that the sort of people who play AND post might be slightly obsessive. A view reinforced by some of the rather irritated posts above(!)
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Well, I suppose I can be a little obsessive about the music at times and I'm not sure if I want a "rounded existence" if it involves playing golf, watching lots of football on TV etc but I do have other interests too. Even when I'm online-which is not all the time, honest , I am usually doing other things eg listening to Cds, radio, even watching some TV, downloading, playing and practising tunes too. Yet, I can't resist having a look back to this site and another "Scottish" site just to see if there's anything new from time to time.
I know. I'm probably still here too much but it's not as bad as it seems.
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When I said 'a teensy weensie bit of truth.', that wasn't a euphemistic way of saying that he was 100% spot on and that we should stop writing this stuff forthwith. And I certainly don't want to be accused of encouraging people to play golf (fishing, maybe).
Who's Ani Di Franco? Is he one of those Italian box players?
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And of course backstabbin has been at the heart of the diddley dee since time imemorial. You only need to get up to go to the bogs and we're all at it.
OF COURSE they talkied about that bloody awful piano key accorion player and the scrapy fiddle, and the brilliant flute player and the sad anglo player, and that fine looking girl/boy on the concertina who's going out with the drummer......
Let's be honest - we talk here because we can't when we're playing tunes [at least I cant, being a fluter] though maybe the mouth free instruments permit of playing and talking at the same time????
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
LOL -- Ani Di Franco is a singer/songwriter. Either you love her stuff or you don't care about it at all, it seems like.
Of course there are always people about who talk a big game, but can't live up to it -- in fact, all of us do that at one point or another, me most of all, probably. But to say (in veiled or not so veiled terms) that anyone who cares to talk about this stuff doesn't actually play it or do it is nonsense and an insult. There are some REALLY good players on this list (I have proof! and hopefully you guys will too, soon), and I've learned an awful lot from them. I'd not be able to learn those things if they weren't willing to talk about this stuff (along with my teachers and fellow players), so hat's off to them.
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YYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!God sakes. Obvioulslys AB doesnt play tunes or else he woule be too busy at a session, Me n Dow have been out since 3:30 its now 13:11, what have you been doing AB>???? Playing tunes???cool! Whicha one?? Me and Dow loooooveeee the Wise Maid and St Annes Reel - they are our favourite!!! Cwwwoooolll. What are your favourites???????
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Hello it's Dow here but under the name of bb. As you'll see by Beebs' typos we've had a bit to drink and have come back home to have a nice cosy read of the session board, and got to this thread. ArseBiscuit, I have 2 messages for you, depending on your original reason for posting the thread. Okay, either you 1) are a complete windup merchant and are really funny, and you already have a knack for winding up the thesession regulars, wow that's amazing, or 2) you are as clueless as the rugger bugger idiots who ruined our tunes tonight. If it's number 1, then whoopee-doo, welcome to thesession.org, enjoy your windups (concentrate on the anglo players), but if it's number 2, then, hmmm, well, Beebs is at my side saying "Dow, be nice". Does that give you any idea?
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Ottery
Your probably right to some extent.
To quote Brother Steve (whom I tend to agree with) from his tin whistle pages website.
"There are two types of people who take up Irish music (late in life), those that become True Believers and those that imagine they can crack the music without going through a period of obsession."
That would be me going through a "period of obsession." Maybe someday when I "crack the music," to my own satisfaction, like some people around here I'll have something better to do and lead a more normal "well rounded life." (just don't expect me to watch sit-coms or reality shows, no way) Until then I can only hope the obsession doesn't wear off. I can hang somewhat (some instruments better than others and certainly not with the best of them), and I'll be the first to admit I still have a way's (not to terribly long I don't think) to go to get where I want to be.
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That's the spirit! If we declare loudly that we are over-obsessed monomaniacs, then it takes the wind out of ArseBandit's sails a tad(!)
And Breandan, as another flute player (of sorts), I'd say I've still seen plenty of backstabbing without any need for words - usually taking the form of rolled eyeballs, incredulous stares, and the mimed pushing down of detonation plungers etc etc - And that's even before the poor sap has retired to the bog!
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Been extra busy, and about to get busier, my drunken little darlings. Looking forward to getting out to the east coast and playing some tunes! But this unfortunately means I probably can't make it to London in July while beebs is around. *snif*
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Yes, we are obsessed. And we like thesession.org. Is that such a crime? None of us actually plays trad but we just sit at home at our computers and talk about it, like duh?!! (Dow)
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Hey Zines we've been talking about you tonight behind your back - about how one day we're going to get over to Denv to play tunes with you. Are you still online? I'd reeeeeeally like to know what you reeeeeally think about this thread. I mean ... what you _reeeeally_ think.... (Dow)
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True! Bring Mark with you, Brides. That would be way too fun, and you can just travel all the way round the States staying at houses of friends to make up for the extra airfare!
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HHHHHHIIIIIIIJJJJJJJAAAAAACCCCCKKKKK!! Cant you be serious for one second Dow!!!!?This is a serious thread started by a serious musician! Take note! Dont be so rude@ PS - "People like to talk a lot....." Yes I agree - woooohoooooo!!!beebs
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Surely somebody with a name like arse biscuit is out to cause trouble, and his sole goal in life is to wind everybody up for the sake of it.Having just said that I do realise where ARSE BISCUIT is coming from.
Iv'e visited this site for quite some time, and there is an awfull lot of self righteous bull talked at times.
Its a bit like modern art, somebody creates something which we all know is a load of crap, and then trys to explain its value by using abstract non senceical highbrow arguments to maintain its validity.
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Que??? Question - anybody on this this site apart from Z actually play tunes at all????...dduuuhhhhh!!!!. Seriously - these threads are getting a bit mental. Can hardly be bothered.......did say *hardly*....
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Block us! please! Do the world a favour. And then start a thread that goes like: "why are we here? why are we typing stuff on this yellow board?" because that's what this dumb thread is about. Duh!!?
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PS that was DOW!
If you look really hard you can see the hidden tune context of tunerism here! Many people can gather the tune wisdom of this post..hhhmm -tuuunnnessss.
PS We love you Zls
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LOL -- You two need to go to sleep before the hangover hits. I notice that stewpot thinks that there's mainly self-righteous bull here...but still visits. It's amazing, really, how much bull he's willing to put up with...I've never really understood people who want to post to a board about how stupid it is to post to a board, so I can't really comment, Mark dear. Can't really think about something I don't understand.
This morning, I woke up at 7:30 and went back to sleep because I could. At 8 I woke up again and came downstairs to design a motif and a border for the embroidery of a wedding gown, so I've been at the computer all morning. I stitched out four samples for the bride to look at. She came over at 10 and picked out her favorite of the borders.
Now I'm going to go work in the garden, I've three anemones that need getting into the ground, which means I'll need to go get some mushroom compost because the soil here at our new house is simply devoid of life.
Then I'm going to work on a couple of tunes -- probably Exile From Erin and The Girl that Broke My Heart, but we'll see.
Then I have to go to the sewing machine dealership I work for to get stuff together for the next three days of seminar that we're doing. I'll be learning a new software program that we sell, as well as taking some fun creative classes.
Then I plan to come home and clean house a bit and do some laundry.
After that, I may go to a session that I've been supporting -- I've been taking some time off to do some woodshedding, but I promised that I'd help support this session, and it sounds like they're going to be short players tonight.
And then I'll come home and go back to bed.
In between all that, I've been posting here, as is my usual practice while working at home.
If my life gets any more rounded, I won't be able to sit still due to having no straight sides upon which to rest.
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I'm not so sure it's really round, though, Mark -- so far I haven't managed to work in any learning time today.
Oh, I forgot, if I hear back from the client, I probably should do some webpages tonight for their new website. Maybe after I get back from the session.
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Well, Jack, keeping in mind that *I* went to bed at half past midnight. This woodshedding thing may not be as much fun as sessioning, but it's certainly doing wonders for the amount of sleep I'm getting. I'm off to go get compost! (Please god, let me be able to find a place to start up a compost pile soon...)
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WHEY HEY ...65 RESPONSES ...must've appealed to some people in some way.
AND ...I think some of you missed my point by miles (or kilometres ..wherever you maybe !)
My point was and is; where did ethnomusicology begin, was it with the Seegers? When did this thing become debated and in the conscience of the academics and why?
and to those of you i have offended, or stirred your guilt enough to make not very pleasent comments ....learn some tunes and get of yer arses and play a bit !
only meant in jest ...honest. As with Dow's 1st and most inspiring comment, i'm off to play some tunes and not give it a second thought cos it's just what i do!, even with sausage like fingers ! but boy do they fly to the muscle memory ! we have a bank holiday here and i'm off to enjoy it.
please do further this debate, i'll be out of the sesh sometime tuesday!
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If that was your point, then why did you write "i am not talking about Ani Di Franco i am questioning why so many people 'talk' about ITM rather than do it! and why do people feel such a need to criticise and theorise and make up all sorts of notions when the people that "do it" ..don't."? Give up now. *grin*
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Zina I think you are provoking a discussion which Arse Biscuit didnt intend. I think that comment you describe was a reaction to you clearly misconstruing what they said. If you read the previous comment you can see that the line of discussion or question was, and I understand still is, about "when" rather than as you have stated "why" or "who":
from Arse Biscuit;"what i'm asking is, when did people start talking about this stuff so much, who started rationalising it all and making it academic ?"
I do not think Arse Biscuit is "blaming" anyone or intending to "insult" anyone. They are obviously asking, and maybe in a rather obtuse style unfamiliar to you, when did all this scrutinizing begin?
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Uck. Posting to thesession.org when you're drunk at 3 o'clock in the morning is such a bad idea. Now my drunken ramblings will be here, plastered all over the net, for the rest of my life. Please accept my apologies. As for a serious answer to the question, I don't know. Maybe it only really started when thesession.org and similar websites were born, and "folk" magazines and stuff. But the thing is, I'd say that the people here at thesession.org do "do it", as well as talking about it. Excuse me, I think I may have to begin my hangover in earnest and go to vomit...
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Well, Dow, good thing I didn't stay drinking with you lot or good thing you don't work with me, had me hat blown off and pockets filled with grit on the way in to the office this morning by a Sea King taking off from the back deck of the oiler-replenisher, noisy damn thing it was too, would have worked *wonders* for a hangover. It's buzzing back and forth past my window now 8>)
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It was an ugly one Tish. Things started to go downhill for me after about 8 o'clock when this woman from Stockton-On-Tees shoved a strange-looking pipe in my mouth and made inhale. Everything after that is a confused jumble of snapshot images. Somehow I ended up the other side of Sydney, and then Beebs and I were eating nachos and chicken sandwiches in a park, and then we were posting to thesession.org, and then I woke up sprawled all over the sofa in my own living room. I thought it had all been a dream, but then I checked this thread!
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yikes! I have now read to somewhere around post 20, where everyone is jumping mercilessly on arse bis quit...(why'd u pik that name tho?)....what will 'appen next? tune in nex week? No, jus' scroll a bit...
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ha haahah..bb's something or other about rubbish (post 35 or so) .so i look up bbs history an draw a blank.......come on bro..fill us in with a self dscripshun
hi zina hi dow..this is tooooooooo funny! i get yakking, then the great wurld beyond calls an i haff to go an attend it's midgy little requests..
( i also know that within a half-hour here i will be tol' to shut down cause my tyoing is too noisy)
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Sorry about that - most people know who I am already, but I'll fill out my profile now.
PS - got the worst Hangover - am truely sorry everyone. I was just reading back through the thread (suprised I could see straight enough to post anything last night) and realised I just talk a load of bollocks when I am drunk. Dont mind me......
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For those of you who don't get AB's name, you obviously haven't watched Trainspotting. It's a Scottish description of someone who's a bit flaky , not hard. Normally you describe someone as "Biscuit arsed" or "... ersed", to use the correct pronunciation. All of which I'm sure AB isn't really!
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Hi Everyone, just got back from a fun road trip down in Boston. Yup, I drive 3 hours to hear good Music, play tunes with my mentor and learn more tunes! I'm so tired I could just crawl up underneath my desk and pass out. I literally rolled into work an hour ago...hehehe...
I just skimmed this post as I'm trying to catch up. A lot you are assuming AB is a guy. I'm saying this person could be a girl, unless I missed something??? I really don't know any men who listen to (never mind quote) Ani Difranco, although it's possible ....... Ages ago my husband and I had a female roommate living with us who loved Ani. My husband is a nice, normal, cool & very tolerant guy, but he *hated* Ani Difranco so much that it wasn't allowed to be played in the house. No offense to any Ani Difrano fans but I think the majority of her fan base is very very very female if you catch my drift (I was dragged to a concert and it was all women...eeek!!!!....never again!!!!!). I won't comment on my feelings, but she's not my cup of tea at all......like I said, no offense to anyone who is fan
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She's a self-propelled phenomenon. Hardest working songwriter in the business. She lasts because she's relentless. A fine role model for the young people of today, except for that business about carrying a love-gun strapped to your boot...
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Grego, your story about Ani reminds me of when I was a young lad in London many years ago. A bunch of us went to see this new R&B group in a little dive in west London.
They had yet to make a record and were almost totally unknown.
I remember commenting to my friends:
Great group, but they need to get rid of that singer if they want to get anywhere.
The name of the group was The Rolling Stones.
Fortunately for all concerned, not least myself, I didn´t pursue a career in the music industry!
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Yeah, either you love Ani Di Franco, or you don't. I've never known of anyone who is indifferent to her stuff (unless of course they've never heard of her).
Actually, the first person who insisted that I listen to Ani Di Franco (and the first to be disappointed in my lukewarm reception of the listen) was a guy, Joyce (and very very straight) -- but he was a singer/songwriter as well.
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Kerri I have no doubts she's the hardest working singer/song writer in the business. I know she has her own record label called Righteous Babe. She also puts on a great concert (she's much better live IMHO) And I respect her for all the perseverance and never selling out to the masses.....and I'll go even further to say I have a 2 of her earlier CD's: Not a Pretty Girl and Out of Range. Half the songs I really like and about half I find difficult to listen to for various reasons...
My husband found it hard to listen to the real personal female stuff involving female bodily functions and songs discussing female anatomy. I have the lyrics right here so don't tempt me to post examples...So that's why I would find it surprising for a man to quote Ani
But I haven't heard her recent stuff. Maybe she toned it down, maybe not. Maybe more men listen to her nowadays. But 10 years ago it was different...
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One more thing, since my husband is out of town on business this week, I'm gonna play one of her CD's while I'm working out (much later tonight). It's been years since I've listened to her so it will be interesting
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Yes Andee, I know what you mean. After seeing the movie "Eight Mile" I had hoped to like Eminem's music but I only dig that one big hit he has...I liked the movie and thought he was one cool dude, but hearing samples of his actual CD didn't do much for me.
I'm beat, f*ck the workout, i'm going to put my flute away and go to bed... Too much beer this weekend
"People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
"People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
"People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do." from a gorgeous song by Ani Di Franco.
being a newby to this forum ( well in this life anyway) I was wondering where all this "talk" started about traditional music?
Do you think that my grandparents dancing at the crossroads near Kilmovee, Co. Mayo would gather to oneside and berate the fiddle player for playing in that 'hateful Clare style" , and "that accordion player, can't he forget that he once played in a marching band in Lisburn !"
~~~~ OR ..do you think they just got on with the job at hand and danced and had a good time ???
~~~~ Just wondering ?
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by ArseBiscuit
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"Including" not "icluding" god damn these small keys and my stupid sausage style fingers !
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by ArseBiscuit
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They probably did all three. The Irish are generally really *good* at talking, so they probably did so in a very literate manner, too. And they probably poached what they liked from the playing they heard, and laughed about what they didn't.
The ironic thing about the quote you've selected, of course, is that Ani Di Franco is talking about what she does, rather than going out and doing.
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Zina Lee
Oh, and BTW...
...welcome to The Session. LOL
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Zina Lee
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sorry missed the irony ; "what she does, rather than going out and doing"
something i missed there.
what i'm asking is, when did people start talking about this stuff so much, who started rationalising it all and making it academic ?
you can do a degree in bajo playing at Uni of Limerick now ..thats irony
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by ArseBiscuit
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"Bajo !!!" need bigger keyboard obviously meant BANJO
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by ArseBiscuit
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Think about it. If she really did like to shut up and do, would she be bothering to talk about it?
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Zina Lee
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aarrghhhhh!!!
that was just a quote nothing else and that's not what I'M talking about !
Zina i think you have missed the point somewha !!!!
i am not talking about Ani Di Franco i am questioning why so many people 'talk' about ITM rather than do it! and why do people feel such a need to criticise and theorise and make up all sorts of notions when the people that "do it" ..don't.
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by ArseBiscuit
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
ArseBiscuit, I'd like to stay sand chat but there's a session this afternoon and I have to leave in 5 mins. Catch ya later.
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Dr. Dow
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
LOL Dow...!
No, I don't think I've missed the point at all, but perhaps you haven't caught the irony of your own post...
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
So, AB. Let me see if I've got it right. You've chanced upon this group of people who are doing something that's pretty inane, in your view, and you've come to tell us to get a life?
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by grego
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Interesting... it seems we are being berated for talking about music by someone who wants to talk about talking about music. Ooops. I suspect I may be guilty of having just talked about someone who wants to talk about our talking about music. When will it end?!
Wow. this is so meta. It's like we're all starring in a postmodernism textbook.
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Q
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
LOL! I just want to say - I love you guys. Just came back from shutting up and doing all day long. Sad day for the flames but great day for being drunk and learning quebecois tunes.
Arse, I play my fiddle all day, using scores from the site as a reference, learning aide and reminder. When I get tired or need to eat I swap ideas with some friends. Then I play more tunes.
What do you do all day?
Kerri (welcome to the session! :^)
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
I guess there's always been "talkers" and "doers" but probably the majority do both. Having said that there's probably no harm (and we need to a certain extent) some academics, organisers, reviewers, publicists and the such to discuss and promote the music, as long as they and everyone else realise that the music itself is the most important and it should be a "living thing"
would have done a bit of talking too. Maybe, something like "Sure, I'm so proud of our Sean on the fiddle. Everyone's out of tune/time except him" 
Even the grandparents at the crossroads(not necessarily yours "bottomcookie"
I'd say that the majority of those here-even those who do the most talking-- play a helluva lot as well, perhaps with different abilities but they still do. I know I do, although I'll admit my repetoire isn't exclusively Irish.
Probably, many of the people here aren't big "talkers" as a rule but the medium makes it easier for us to get our points of view across.
By the way, there is a third way you haven't mentioned. "Listening". We should be doing a lot of that too but preferably to the music.
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Johnny Jay
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
I'm just after "doing" for the last 7 hours. We had some tunes at a friend's house. We've been eating and drinking and talking and playing tunes... urm... what was the question again?
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Phantom Button
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Jack the question (I think) was "Aren't you a loser for talking about playing music instead of playing", and we, both drunk after playing music all night, are trying to understand the question. Sorry, Arse, what was the question?
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Maybe ArseBiscuit had pedants and gossips in mind, which is what you see at some sessions. I think some of us might be guilty of style snobbery and perhaps someone who went to a dance at the crossroads just went there to have fun and didn't bother analysing the music.
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Cath
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
ArseBiscuit, how'd you get the name?
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Cath
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
It's not exactly like there are scores of people out there in my daily life who want to wax on about ITM. I don't even bother trying to defend it to my co-workers who'd much rather have me not torment them with my bootleg seissiun tapes. No one is impressed by the sound of my new Sindt A/Bb set. It's not like anyone really give a hoot that my rolls are comming along or that the E string on my banjo is to slinky and I can't dig into it like I want to...Theseissiun at least gives me a forum and chance to ask questions and to read what others who share my obsession think about it.
I'll "shut up" now and play my whistle, but I have to drive to a parking lot because it's early and the wife will kill me if I start up now. I cant stop thinking about the Earl's Chair.
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Chef Paul
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Yes, Paul. Even those non musician friends who actually like (or, maybe tolerate)listening to the music are only interested in the "finished article" or what they think it is. They're not interested in all the intricacies, problems, and theories behind it all.
If I'm having a bad day with my ornaments or my strings are "playing me up", they're not too interested. To them, it's just a case of the music being crap.
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Johnny Jay
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Dare I say that ArseBizkit's contribution, despite the obvious paradox in his ridiculing the contributors to boards like this, may contain a teensy weensie bit of truth.
One might think that anyone who spent large amounts of their time playing at sessions would need to spend the rest of their time doing the other things (and thinking about other things) that make for a rounded existence - i.e. the more time spent playing = the less time left for talking about it. I think that the sort of people who play AND post might be slightly obsessive. A view reinforced by some of the rather irritated posts above(!)
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Ottery
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Well, I suppose I can be a little obsessive about the music at times and I'm not sure if I want a "rounded existence" if it involves playing golf, watching lots of football on TV etc but I do have other interests too. Even when I'm online-which is not all the time, honest
, I am usually doing other things eg listening to Cds, radio, even watching some TV, downloading, playing and practising tunes too. Yet, I can't resist having a look back to this site and another "Scottish" site just to see if there's anything new from time to time.
I know. I'm probably still here too much but it's not as bad as it seems.
# Posted on June 5th 2004 by Johnny Jay
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
When I said 'a teensy weensie bit of truth.', that wasn't a euphemistic way of saying that he was 100% spot on and that we should stop writing this stuff forthwith. And I certainly don't want to be accused of encouraging people to play golf (fishing, maybe).
Who's Ani Di Franco? Is he one of those Italian box players?
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Ottery
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
And of course backstabbin has been at the heart of the diddley dee since time imemorial. You only need to get up to go to the bogs and we're all at it.
OF COURSE they talkied about that bloody awful piano key accorion player and the scrapy fiddle, and the brilliant flute player and the sad anglo player, and that fine looking girl/boy on the concertina who's going out with the drummer......
Let's be honest - we talk here because we can't when we're playing tunes [at least I cant, being a fluter] though maybe the mouth free instruments permit of playing and talking at the same time????
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by breandan
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
LOL -- Ani Di Franco is a singer/songwriter. Either you love her stuff or you don't care about it at all, it seems like.
Of course there are always people about who talk a big game, but can't live up to it -- in fact, all of us do that at one point or another, me most of all, probably. But to say (in veiled or not so veiled terms) that anyone who cares to talk about this stuff doesn't actually play it or do it is nonsense and an insult. There are some REALLY good players on this list (I have proof! and hopefully you guys will too, soon), and I've learned an awful lot from them. I'd not be able to learn those things if they weren't willing to talk about this stuff (along with my teachers and fellow players), so hat's off to them.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
YYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!God sakes. Obvioulslys AB doesnt play tunes or else he woule be too busy at a session, Me n Dow have been out since 3:30 its now 13:11, what have you been doing AB>???? Playing tunes???cool! Whicha one?? Me and Dow loooooveeee the Wise Maid and St Annes Reel - they are our favourite!!! Cwwwoooolll. What are your favourites???????
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Hello it's Dow here but under the name of bb. As you'll see by Beebs' typos we've had a bit to drink and have come back home to have a nice cosy read of the session board, and got to this thread. ArseBiscuit, I have 2 messages for you, depending on your original reason for posting the thread. Okay, either you 1) are a complete windup merchant and are really funny, and you already have a knack for winding up the thesession regulars, wow that's amazing, or 2) you are as clueless as the rugger bugger idiots who ruined our tunes tonight. If it's number 1, then whoopee-doo, welcome to thesession.org, enjoy your windups (concentrate on the anglo players), but if it's number 2, then, hmmm, well, Beebs is at my side saying "Dow, be nice". Does that give you any idea?
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Ottery
Your probably right to some extent.
To quote Brother Steve (whom I tend to agree with) from his tin whistle pages website.
"There are two types of people who take up Irish music (late in life), those that become True Believers and those that imagine they can crack the music without going through a period of obsession."
That would be me going through a "period of obsession." Maybe someday when I "crack the music," to my own satisfaction, like some people around here I'll have something better to do and lead a more normal "well rounded life." (just don't expect me to watch sit-coms or reality shows, no way) Until then I can only hope the obsession doesn't wear off. I can hang somewhat (some instruments better than others and certainly not with the best of them), and I'll be the first to admit I still have a way's (not to terribly long I don't think) to go to get where I want to be.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Chef Paul
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
YYYAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWNNNNN!!!!!Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!Is this guy a windup????
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Arsebiskie!! DO You play toooonnness? I'm thinking you dont! Dont be ofended. Its quite common!
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Exactly how MUCH drink was taken, you two?! *smirk*
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
That's the spirit! If we declare loudly that we are over-obsessed monomaniacs, then it takes the wind out of ArseBandit's sails a tad(!)
And Breandan, as another flute player (of sorts), I'd say I've still seen plenty of backstabbing without any need for words - usually taking the form of rolled eyeballs, incredulous stares, and the mimed pushing down of detonation plungers etc etc - And that's even before the poor sap has retired to the bog!
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Ottery
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Loads!!! We miss you Z - youve not been posting much lately!! xbeebs
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
We're having a laugh here falling all over the keyboard posting rubbish. I'm starting to get a headache tho' (Dow)
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Been extra busy, and about to get busier, my drunken little darlings. Looking forward to getting out to the east coast and playing some tunes! But this unfortunately means I probably can't make it to London in July while beebs is around. *snif*
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Yes, we are obsessed. And we like thesession.org. Is that such a crime? None of us actually plays trad but we just sit at home at our computers and talk about it, like duh?!! (Dow)
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
God! r u serious!!?? Wish you could get to London...what a laugh! Dont worry Z - there is always Denver!!!
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Hey Zines we've been talking about you tonight behind your back - about how one day we're going to get over to Denv to play tunes with you. Are you still online? I'd reeeeeeally like to know what you reeeeeally think about this thread. I mean ... what you _reeeeally_ think....
(Dow)
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
True! Bring Mark with you, Brides. That would be way too fun, and you can just travel all the way round the States staying at houses of friends to make up for the extra airfare!
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
HHHHHHIIIIIIIJJJJJJJAAAAAACCCCCKKKKK!! Cant you be serious for one second Dow!!!!?This is a serious thread started by a serious musician! Take note! Dont be so rude@ PS - "People like to talk a lot....." Yes I agree - woooohoooooo!!!beebs
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Yeah Zeens you avoided the question cleverly didn't you eh. We're not *that* drunk! Now what do you reeeeeeeeeally think of this thread? (Dow)
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Surely somebody with a name like arse biscuit is out to cause trouble, and his sole goal in life is to wind everybody up for the sake of it.Having just said that I do realise where ARSE BISCUIT is coming from.
Iv'e visited this site for quite some time, and there is an awfull lot of self righteous bull talked at times.
Its a bit like modern art, somebody creates something which we all know is a load of crap, and then trys to explain its value by using abstract non senceical highbrow arguments to maintain its validity.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Justintime
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Hmmmm - you serious stewpot?? YYYAAAAWWWWNNNNNN
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Well i've had a few drinks, but yes, I mean what I say
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Justintime
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Yeah, in fact, you know what? What's the point in thesession.org? Let's start a thread about that! Duh!?
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Jeremy. Block them,please.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Johnny Jay
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Que??? Question - anybody on this this site apart from Z actually play tunes at all????...dduuuhhhhh!!!!. Seriously - these threads are getting a bit mental. Can hardly be bothered.......did say *hardly*....
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Block us! please! Do the world a favour. And then start a thread that goes like: "why are we here? why are we typing stuff on this yellow board?" because that's what this dumb thread is about. Duh!!?
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
PS that was DOW!
If you look really hard you can see the hidden tune context of tunerism here! Many people can gather the tune wisdom of this post..hhhmm -tuuunnnessss.
PS We love you Zls
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
LOL -- You two need to go to sleep before the hangover hits. I notice that stewpot thinks that there's mainly self-righteous bull here...but still visits. It's amazing, really, how much bull he's willing to put up with...I've never really understood people who want to post to a board about how stupid it is to post to a board, so I can't really comment, Mark dear. Can't really think about something I don't understand.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
PS, I love you two as well, god only knows why. *smirk*
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Sorry it might have been the beer talking.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Justintime
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Well, it's not like there isn't a whole lot of that going on at the moment, stew. *grin*
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
I'm celebrating D day in the way I know best!
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Justintime
Rounded life...?
This morning, I woke up at 7:30 and went back to sleep because I could. At 8 I woke up again and came downstairs to design a motif and a border for the embroidery of a wedding gown, so I've been at the computer all morning. I stitched out four samples for the bride to look at. She came over at 10 and picked out her favorite of the borders.
Now I'm going to go work in the garden, I've three anemones that need getting into the ground, which means I'll need to go get some mushroom compost because the soil here at our new house is simply devoid of life.
Then I'm going to work on a couple of tunes -- probably Exile From Erin and The Girl that Broke My Heart, but we'll see.
Then I have to go to the sewing machine dealership I work for to get stuff together for the next three days of seminar that we're doing. I'll be learning a new software program that we sell, as well as taking some fun creative classes.
Then I plan to come home and clean house a bit and do some laundry.
After that, I may go to a session that I've been supporting -- I've been taking some time off to do some woodshedding, but I promised that I'd help support this session, and it sounds like they're going to be short players tonight.
And then I'll come home and go back to bed.
In between all that, I've been posting here, as is my usual practice while working at home.
If my life gets any more rounded, I won't be able to sit still due to having no straight sides upon which to rest.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Zina, you have a truly rounded life. Unlike me, who only has a truly rounded beergut(!)
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Ottery
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
I'm not so sure it's really round, though, Mark -- so far I haven't managed to work in any learning time today.
Oh, I forgot, if I hear back from the client, I probably should do some webpages tonight for their new website. Maybe after I get back from the session.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
(rubs eyes) urm... maybe I should get some coffee....
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Phantom Button
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Well, Jack, keeping in mind that *I* went to bed at half past midnight.
This woodshedding thing may not be as much fun as sessioning, but it's certainly doing wonders for the amount of sleep I'm getting. I'm off to go get compost! (Please god, let me be able to find a place to start up a compost pile soon...)
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
That's a pile of shite Zina!
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Phantom Button
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
LOL -- I have rarely used manure, but may have to resort to it in the case of this garden. Serious. I haven't seen an earthworm yet. Not even one.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Maybe a better title for this thread at this point should be "I just prefer to shut up and do do"
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Phantom Button
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
God my spelling stinks this morning. The correct spelling is "doo doo"
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Phantom Button
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Standing up, of course.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Only if you want to be a real man, Kerri.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Phantom Button
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Nah - I'll just keep being a shoddy fake.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
WHEY HEY ...65 RESPONSES ...must've appealed to some people in some way.
AND ...I think some of you missed my point by miles (or kilometres ..wherever you maybe !)
My point was and is; where did ethnomusicology begin, was it with the Seegers? When did this thing become debated and in the conscience of the academics and why?
and to those of you i have offended, or stirred your guilt enough to make not very pleasent comments ....learn some tunes and get of yer arses and play a bit !
only meant in jest ...honest. As with Dow's 1st and most inspiring comment, i'm off to play some tunes and not give it a second thought cos it's just what i do!, even with sausage like fingers ! but boy do they fly to the muscle memory ! we have a bank holiday here and i'm off to enjoy it.
please do further this debate, i'll be out of the sesh sometime tuesday!
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by ArseBiscuit
Re: "People like to talk a lot, FIDDLER ON VERMOUTH SAID LOSER NOT ME !."
FIDDLER ON VERMOUTH SAID LOSER NOT ME !
slán go foill
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by ArseBiscuit
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
If that was your point, then why did you write "i am not talking about Ani Di Franco i am questioning why so many people 'talk' about ITM rather than do it! and why do people feel such a need to criticise and theorise and make up all sorts of notions when the people that "do it" ..don't."? Give up now. *grin*
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Zina I think you are provoking a discussion which Arse Biscuit didnt intend. I think that comment you describe was a reaction to you clearly misconstruing what they said. If you read the previous comment you can see that the line of discussion or question was, and I understand still is, about "when" rather than as you have stated "why" or "who":
from Arse Biscuit;"what i'm asking is, when did people start talking about this stuff so much, who started rationalising it all and making it academic ?"
I do not think Arse Biscuit is "blaming" anyone or intending to "insult" anyone. They are obviously asking, and maybe in a rather obtuse style unfamiliar to you, when did all this scrutinizing begin?
and this is of course, in my humble opinion.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Red Crow
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
That is, of course, a viewpoint.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Uck. Posting to thesession.org when you're drunk at 3 o'clock in the morning is such a bad idea. Now my drunken ramblings will be here, plastered all over the net, for the rest of my life. Please accept my apologies. As for a serious answer to the question, I don't know. Maybe it only really started when thesession.org and similar websites were born, and "folk" magazines and stuff. But the thing is, I'd say that the people here at thesession.org do "do it", as well as talking about it. Excuse me, I think I may have to begin my hangover in earnest and go to vomit...
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Dr. Dow
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
oh my favorite tune here; "good morning to your night cap"
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Red Crow
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Apparently Onions are good for a hangover, i prefer them with a little bit of cheese !
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Red Crow
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Jeremy, can you put a spell check thingie on this site? Lots of poeple here can't spell good after they've been drinking.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by rocking bow
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Well, Dow, good thing I didn't stay drinking with you lot or good thing you don't work with me, had me hat blown off and pockets filled with grit on the way in to the office this morning by a Sea King taking off from the back deck of the oiler-replenisher, noisy damn thing it was too, would have worked *wonders* for a hangover. It's buzzing back and forth past my window now 8>)
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Tish
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
It was an ugly one Tish. Things started to go downhill for me after about 8 o'clock when this woman from Stockton-On-Tees shoved a strange-looking pipe in my mouth and made inhale. Everything after that is a confused jumble of snapshot images. Somehow I ended up the other side of Sydney, and then Beebs and I were eating nachos and chicken sandwiches in a park, and then we were posting to thesession.org, and then I woke up sprawled all over the sofa in my own living room. I thought it had all been a dream, but then I checked this thread!
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Dr. Dow
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
I still haven't figured out why you haven't died of alcohol poisoning, Mark...
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Must be the cheese and onion sandwiches keeping me alive!
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Dr. Dow
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
damn....i arrive so late at this yummy discussion......haha on Q's postmodern observation! hurrah! hurrah!
now i mus scroll back an continue reading the sweet ironies.........
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by vboyd100
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
yikes! I have now read to somewhere around post 20, where everyone is jumping mercilessly on arse bis quit...(why'd u pik that name tho?)....what will 'appen next? tune in nex week? No, jus' scroll a bit...
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by vboyd100
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
You know, I think we really DO need that spell checker...
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
know we dont silly gurl
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Dr. Dow
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
ha haahah..bb's something or other about rubbish (post 35 or so) .so i look up bbs history an draw a blank.......come on bro..fill us in with a self dscripshun
hi zina hi dow..this is tooooooooo funny! i get yakking, then the great wurld beyond calls an i haff to go an attend it's midgy little requests..
( i also know that within a half-hour here i will be tol' to shut down cause my tyoing is too noisy)
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by vboyd100
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
bb is a gurl.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Dr. Dow
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Erratum: POST #85: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, I just prefer to shut up and do". The word "tyoing" should be read "typing"
gimme a brake guys.......the "o" key is,like, man, RIGHT beside the "p" key.....
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by vboyd100
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
well that helps a lot....hi bb....Dow jus filled me out on your entire wholeness......
haha
thats it I have been told to shut down, so gotta go. luv y'all.
i can still read tho.. jus no more noisy ty-o-ing
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by vboyd100
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Sorry about that - most people know who I am already, but I'll fill out my profile now.
PS - got the worst Hangover - am truely sorry everyone. I was just reading back through the thread (suprised I could see straight enough to post anything last night) and realised I just talk a load of bollocks when I am drunk. Dont mind me......
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
For those of you who don't get AB's name, you obviously haven't watched Trainspotting. It's a Scottish description of someone who's a bit flaky , not hard. Normally you describe someone as "Biscuit arsed" or "... ersed", to use the correct pronunciation. All of which I'm sure AB isn't really!
C
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Conán McDonnell
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Hi Everyone, just got back from a fun road trip down in Boston. Yup, I drive 3 hours to hear good Music, play tunes with my mentor and learn more tunes! I'm so tired I could just crawl up underneath my desk and pass out. I literally rolled into work an hour ago...hehehe...
....... Ages ago my husband and I had a female roommate living with us who loved Ani. My husband is a nice, normal, cool & very tolerant guy, but he *hated* Ani Difranco so much that it wasn't allowed to be played in the house. No offense to any Ani Difrano fans but I think the majority of her fan base is very very very female if you catch my drift (I was dragged to a concert and it was all women...eeek!!!!....never again!!!!!). I won't comment on my feelings, but she's not my cup of tea at all......like I said, no offense to anyone who is fan 
I just skimmed this post as I'm trying to catch up. A lot you are assuming AB is a guy. I'm saying this person could be a girl, unless I missed something??? I really don't know any men who listen to (never mind quote) Ani Difranco, although it's possible
Oh yeah Conan, I forgot about Trainspotting
Joyce
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by JMH
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
PS - my husband isn't homophobic or anything like that...just for the record...he's a really nice person
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by JMH
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
I heard Ani years ago at the Calgary folk festival, and remember thinking: "well, that's not going to last..."
I suppose I'll never be a successful music industry exec.
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by grego
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
She's a self-propelled phenomenon. Hardest working songwriter in the business. She lasts because she's relentless. A fine role model for the young people of today, except for that business about carrying a love-gun strapped to your boot...
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Grego, your story about Ani reminds me of when I was a young lad in London many years ago. A bunch of us went to see this new R&B group in a little dive in west London.
They had yet to make a record and were almost totally unknown.
I remember commenting to my friends:
Great group, but they need to get rid of that singer if they want to get anywhere.
The name of the group was The Rolling Stones.
Fortunately for all concerned, not least myself, I didn´t pursue a career in the music industry!
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by murfbox
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Haha! I love it, Mike.
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by grego
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Yeah, either you love Ani Di Franco, or you don't. I've never known of anyone who is indifferent to her stuff (unless of course they've never heard of her).
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by Zina Lee
Oh yeah...
Actually, the first person who insisted that I listen to Ani Di Franco (and the first to be disappointed in my lukewarm reception of the listen) was a guy, Joyce (and very very straight) -- but he was a singer/songwriter as well.
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
Kerri I have no doubts she's the hardest working singer/song writer in the business. I know she has her own record label called Righteous Babe. She also puts on a great concert (she's much better live IMHO) And I respect her for all the perseverance and never selling out to the masses.....and I'll go even further to say I have a 2 of her earlier CD's: Not a Pretty Girl and Out of Range. Half the songs I really like and about half I find difficult to listen to for various reasons...
My husband found it hard to listen to the real personal female stuff involving female bodily functions and songs discussing female anatomy. I have the lyrics right here so don't tempt me to post examples...So that's why I would find it surprising for a man to quote Ani
But I haven't heard her recent stuff. Maybe she toned it down, maybe not. Maybe more men listen to her nowadays. But 10 years ago it was different...
Ok back to Irish music
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by JMH
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
I have never heard of Ani De Franco.....for the best I should imagine
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by bb
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
One more thing, since my husband is out of town on business this week, I'm gonna play one of her CD's while I'm working out (much later tonight). It's been years since I've listened to her so it will be interesting
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by JMH
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
LOL, hi Bridie....I like some stuff, but not the gory stuff
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by JMH
Re: "People like to talk a lot, icluding you, i just prefer to shut up and do."
In theory, I like Ani Di Franco, I just never liked her music in reality as much as I would have hoped, if that makes sense.
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by Andee
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Yes Andee, I know what you mean. After seeing the movie "Eight Mile" I had hoped to like Eminem's music but I only dig that one big hit he has...I liked the movie and thought he was one cool dude, but hearing samples of his actual CD didn't do much for me.
I'm beat, f*ck the workout, i'm going to put my flute away and go to bed... Too much beer this weekend
Joyce
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by JMH