Has anyone got the notes for the 5 part version of the Masons Apron. (the one that goes up the dusty end) I have a recording of Dezi Donnely playing it but it's not the greatest. If anyone can help I'd be grateful.
You can find the 5 part version of The Mason's Apron right here at The Session.
Um... I don't want to belabour an obvious point but it would make sense to search for a tune in the "Tunes" section of the site *before* asking for it in the "Discussions" section.
One of the multi-part versions of the Mason's Apron - the one which Dubliner Barney McKenna made famous, I think - was the creation of Sean McGuire. A fiddler I know, Aidan McCormick, has a funny story about this. About 10 or 15 years ago, after a concert by the maestro, Aidan approached Mr. McGuire, asking if he might send him the sheet music for his setteing of The Mason's Apron. He was quite happy to do so, but as he would have to transcribe it by hand, he requested that he be sent £20 for his troubles, and gave out his address. Aidan, obligingly, sent him a cheque for £20, following which, he received a letter from Mr. McGuire, saying, "Sorry, I don't have a bank account. Could you please send me a postal order." The mind boggles to think that at the end of the 20th Century, a world-class professional musician of some 40 years' standing, who had played with the likes of Yehudi Menuhin, could be keeping all his money in a shoe-box under his bed!
Jeremy, sorry about that. I did a searc for The Mason's Apron but must have missed out the '. The same goes for Tuttle's.
A valuable lesson in the benefits of punctuation.
10 parts......yes please. That should keep me going for a while. Thanks Zina.
Barney, if i remember correctly, the ten part version is more or less the same thing as the five part version, with the first two parts being the ones we all know, and the other eight being variations on the B part, pretty much. Why shouldn't you come up with your own? What the heck. Let's do a The Session Mason's with twenty different parts that are all variations on the B part -- c'mon, who's going to put one up tune's page first?
OK . You're on. Let's do it.
The version in the tune lists here isn't the one I'm after anyway. The one I want goes up into 3rd position and higher. I've only heard it a couple of times so....... any ideas anyone before I write my own last three parts ?
I think it would be hysterical to have a The Session Mason's Apron setting with a jillion different variations on the B part -- we could have the Will Harmon Memorial B part, and so forth -- hehehe. I came up with that idea this morning at 4 am. But now that I'm sort of awake again, it still sounds like a funny idea.
Is that the Tommy People's setting with all the position work? I think it might be. James Kelly also does a nice one that's more than five parts, I think...maybe six? I think it's on the album Traditional Irish Music. I'll have to have a listen to it again to see if it is. Check on John Chamber's ABC Finder website, Barney, I know I've seen several different transcriptions there.
There is also the "Miko Russell" version , which has been recorded by Frankie Gavin, De Danann, Gary Shannon and Claire Mann.
The "Boghall & Bathgate" Pipe Band in Scotland have a curious 4-part version called "The Mason's Ape" which I would recommend to whistle players.
Thanks all for your assistance. I've just managed to get the hang of the Dezi Donnely version. It's one that goes up to third then fifth position, so that should keep me occupied for a good while!!
I'll write it out and then post it if anyone is interested ?
Kevin Burke has a nice 2 part version on his album If the Cap Fits. On the Boys of the Lough's second album, Aly Bain plays a version from Shetland, followed by Cathal McConnell's multi-part version on whistle, which they then follow up with the 'original' Scots version.
Sean McGuire's version requires some 7th posiiton work. I've managed to work out an arrangment by ear - being able to play it properly's taking a bit more time, though! I still think it's the best version I've heard, and he did write all of the extra parts (it's orignally a two-part Scottish tune). I thought Dezi Donnlly also went to the 7th position, but I could be mistaken. I've never known Tommy Peoples to go that far up the neck, great player though he is. Did he definitely record a version of the Mason's Apron?
Bluegrass fiddler Stuart Duncan does a fantastic 2-part version, with incredibly imaginative variations. I;m sure he'd have no difficulty whatsoever playing the 7th position part, but it seems that the McGuire version isn't played outside Ireland (and not too many people in Ireland can paly it properly either!).
The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
Has anyone got the notes for the 5 part version of the Masons Apron. (the one that goes up the dusty end) I have a recording of Dezi Donnely playing it but it's not the greatest. If anyone can help I'd be grateful.
# Posted on February 21st 2002 by barney morgan
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
You can find the 5 part version of The Mason's Apron right here at The Session.
Um... I don't want to belabour an obvious point but it would make sense to search for a tune in the "Tunes" section of the site *before* asking for it in the "Discussions" section.
# Posted on February 21st 2002 by Jeremy
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
Somewhere I have the ten part version too...I'll have a look around to see if I can find it for you, Barney, if you want that one.
Zina
# Posted on February 22nd 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
One of the multi-part versions of the Mason's Apron - the one which Dubliner Barney McKenna made famous, I think - was the creation of Sean McGuire. A fiddler I know, Aidan McCormick, has a funny story about this. About 10 or 15 years ago, after a concert by the maestro, Aidan approached Mr. McGuire, asking if he might send him the sheet music for his setteing of The Mason's Apron. He was quite happy to do so, but as he would have to transcribe it by hand, he requested that he be sent £20 for his troubles, and gave out his address. Aidan, obligingly, sent him a cheque for £20, following which, he received a letter from Mr. McGuire, saying, "Sorry, I don't have a bank account. Could you please send me a postal order." The mind boggles to think that at the end of the 20th Century, a world-class professional musician of some 40 years' standing, who had played with the likes of Yehudi Menuhin, could be keeping all his money in a shoe-box under his bed!
# Posted on February 22nd 2002 by granama
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
Jeremy, sorry about that. I did a searc for The Mason's Apron but must have missed out the '. The same goes for Tuttle's.
A valuable lesson in the benefits of punctuation.
10 parts......yes please. That should keep me going for a while. Thanks Zina.
# Posted on February 22nd 2002 by barney morgan
The Masons Apron with even MORE parts anyone ?
Barney, if i remember correctly, the ten part version is more or less the same thing as the five part version, with the first two parts being the ones we all know, and the other eight being variations on the B part, pretty much. Why shouldn't you come up with your own?
What the heck. Let's do a The Session Mason's with twenty different parts that are all variations on the B part -- c'mon, who's going to put one up tune's page first?
Zina
# Posted on February 22nd 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
The version in the tune lists here isn't the one I'm after anyway. The one I want goes up into 3rd position and higher. I've only heard it a couple of times so....... any ideas anyone before I write my own last three parts ?
# Posted on February 22nd 2002 by barney morgan
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
I think it would be hysterical to have a The Session Mason's Apron setting with a jillion different variations on the B part -- we could have the Will Harmon Memorial B part, and so forth -- hehehe. I came up with that idea this morning at 4 am. But now that I'm sort of awake again, it still sounds like a funny idea.
Is that the Tommy People's setting with all the position work? I think it might be. James Kelly also does a nice one that's more than five parts, I think...maybe six? I think it's on the album Traditional Irish Music. I'll have to have a listen to it again to see if it is. Check on John Chamber's ABC Finder website, Barney, I know I've seen several different transcriptions there.
Zina
# Posted on February 23rd 2002 by Zina Lee
Found one
Henrik's got a seven parter on his site: http://home1.swipnet.se/~w-11382/abc/hnr6.abc
# Posted on February 23rd 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
Zina, you're a diamond. Thanks.
# Posted on February 23rd 2002 by barney morgan
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
What're you saying, Barney, that I'm a lump? Heh.
zls
# Posted on February 23rd 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
What I'm saying is you're rare, bright, shining, cherished, desirable ................and to be found deep underground by South African miners.
# Posted on February 23rd 2002 by barney morgan
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
There is also the "Miko Russell" version , which has been recorded by Frankie Gavin, De Danann, Gary Shannon and Claire Mann.
The "Boghall & Bathgate" Pipe Band in Scotland have a curious 4-part version called "The Mason's Ape" which I would recommend to whistle players.
# Posted on February 24th 2002 by Kenny
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
That probably explains a lot, Barney. *grin*
zls
# Posted on February 24th 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
Thanks all for your assistance. I've just managed to get the hang of the Dezi Donnely version. It's one that goes up to third then fifth position, so that should keep me occupied for a good while!!
I'll write it out and then post it if anyone is interested ?
Hey Zina. Always nice to see a grin.
# Posted on February 24th 2002 by barney morgan
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
Kevin Burke has a nice 2 part version on his album If the Cap Fits. On the Boys of the Lough's second album, Aly Bain plays a version from Shetland, followed by Cathal McConnell's multi-part version on whistle, which they then follow up with the 'original' Scots version.
# Posted on February 25th 2002 by granama
Re: The Masons Apron. 5 Parts anyone ?
Sean McGuire's version requires some 7th posiiton work. I've managed to work out an arrangment by ear - being able to play it properly's taking a bit more time, though! I still think it's the best version I've heard, and he did write all of the extra parts (it's orignally a two-part Scottish tune). I thought Dezi Donnlly also went to the 7th position, but I could be mistaken. I've never known Tommy Peoples to go that far up the neck, great player though he is. Did he definitely record a version of the Mason's Apron?
Bluegrass fiddler Stuart Duncan does a fantastic 2-part version, with incredibly imaginative variations. I;m sure he'd have no difficulty whatsoever playing the 7th position part, but it seems that the McGuire version isn't played outside Ireland (and not too many people in Ireland can paly it properly either!).
# Posted on April 7th 2006 by Brian Patterson