I haven't been around for while but used to be pretty active a couple years ago. I put up a couple tunes I wrote back then, as did a few others, in response to a discussion about ... well, it's a long story. Anyhoo, I was just poking around and it crossed my mind that there might be quite a few other tunes written and posted by session members, but there's really no way to find them. Anyone want to fess up? I'm interested in seeing you have come up with. I'm putting up another - a follow-up to "the Cheatin' Bastard" called "Better off Without Him". (Granted, there has been controversy as to whether composers should be posting their tunes here, but I say pooh-pooh to that!)
Just thinking you could play ' Out the door and over the wall' before playing the 'cheating bastard', might make an interesting set.................oh, well just a thought !
KS
Wonderful suggestion, Kerri, & great to see you back! Was just thinking about this the other day while trolling for tunes on here, Gian Marco has quite a few nice ones....
Kerri, just listened to your MP3s & they are fantastic! You've got the pathos of Tori Amos & the wit & irony of Shawn Colvin, both of whom I adore, & I esp love Stupid People, thanks, you made my evening!
Hey, thanks Emily! Glad you like it. I should really fix that website up though (blush) it's kind of sloppy. I don't really know how to make these things.
One of the problems with diddly music in the last few years is people claiming tunes. I don't think it should matter where a tune came from. A tune should stand on its own merit. I know lots of people who learn tunes just because their mate wrote it and they're not good tunes or even orriginal.
Make yourselves a general rule|: Imagine that you didn't know where the tune came from, or its name or anything. Would you still bother to learn it?
Infact, extend this rule: if you don't know where a tune you know came from, or its name or anything. Would you still bother to play it?
The opposite can happen too Michael. A Shetland friend of mine once showed one of his original tunes to members of a well-known Scottish group at a session , which they must have recorded and learnt. It turned up later on their CD as "Trad arr." !!.
That's a great story. Your freind should be chuffed to bits. Ask him if he recconed said group would have recorded it if they thought it was anything other than trad. (And don't moan about the royalties, it's chicken feed)
Yeah, it wasn't the royalties as you rightly say, it was just the shock of finding they had "taken" his tune without acknowledgement. A large number of well-played Shetland (in particular) tunes are attributable and many of the writers are still living or in living memory, so it wouldn't have hurt to bother to find out who wrote it and put a wee word in. It clearly wasn't ancient trad as it was a modern-style Shetland hornpipe with some jazzy notes. Cracking tune though - I've only heard it live so I can't play it back to you, my ears & memory aren't that good..
On reflection, I think he was chuffed as you say - it was just the initial shock.
So, Jeremy, can we request for there to be a separate section for original compositions (ie members of this site), or is there a way to search for them currently?
That's a good point Jeremy - I need to think up twelve to fifteen trad tunes now though that aren't already here, AND I know the names of. That will be a challenge. Going to have to dig deep!
FonV, in case it's of interest, Fiddlecrazy put up a website a while back specially for thesession members' original tunes. The link's in this discussion:
Yikes! I have to start working on that again! I was going full steam on it for a while but then it stopped. If people are interested, I will start working on it again. I made it because I thought it would be really nice to have all the original tunes from the session in one place. There isn't a category for that on the site, so I decided to make a new one.
Let me know if you folks would like that.
And Kerri, I do have one my tunes on this site: Patrick's
I like the way GM has put his tunes in his tunebook. It makes them easy to find because you can go down the list and browse them like a book. The only thing is, it makes it difficult if he wants to free up his tunebook for anything else. If there was something like a "compositions" book separate from the tunebook, it would mean you could easily locate all the tunes written by one person without having a separate "new compositions" section - if that wasn't what Jeremy wanted to do (I think he's said that before at some point). Just an idea...
Oh btw Kerri I have a few tunes of my own here as well but I have no idea where they all are - I'd have to go through the database page by page to find them! The one I submitted most recently is "Fagan's Workshop", but I can't remember before that.
Matti wrote a lovely slip jig called "The Grindavik Lasses" which we learnt before he came to Sydney and we played it at the session. Will wrote "Bang Your Frog On The Sofa" and something else I liked but can't track down at the mo. Graphix (? not sure about the name) has written great tunes. The one that springs to mind was called something like "The Yellow Glove". And there's loads of others as well.
Composers, identify yourselves!
Composers, identify yourselves!
I haven't been around for while but used to be pretty active a couple years ago. I put up a couple tunes I wrote back then, as did a few others, in response to a discussion about ... well, it's a long story. Anyhoo, I was just poking around and it crossed my mind that there might be quite a few other tunes written and posted by session members, but there's really no way to find them. Anyone want to fess up? I'm interested in seeing you have come up with. I'm putting up another - a follow-up to "the Cheatin' Bastard" called "Better off Without Him". (Granted, there has been controversy as to whether composers should be posting their tunes here, but I say pooh-pooh to that!)
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
If I could do the ABC notation thing I am sure I would have put some o' mine up but I can't so too bad for me.
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by Unseen122
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
Just thinking you could play ' Out the door and over the wall' before playing the 'cheating bastard', might make an interesting set.................oh, well just a thought !
KS
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by KS
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
It's not so hard, unseen. Tutorials and free downloads abound. Many can be linked to from this very site! Try http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/
I am using Barfly.
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
Wonderful suggestion, Kerri, & great to see you back! Was just thinking about this the other day while trolling for tunes on here, Gian Marco has quite a few nice ones....
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by emily_bmore
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
I have two tunes so far, both on here. Ife's March and the Bees Knees
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by lildogturpy
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
Kerri, just listened to your MP3s & they are fantastic! You've got the pathos of Tori Amos & the wit & irony of Shawn Colvin, both of whom I adore, & I esp love Stupid People, thanks, you made my evening!
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by emily_bmore
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Hey, thanks Emily! Glad you like it. I should really fix that website up though (blush) it's kind of sloppy. I don't really know how to make these things.
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by Kerri Brown
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Robin, nice tunes. I especially like the bees knees.
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by Kerri Brown
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
Just remember folks; if you want to submit an original composition, you have to balance it out with some trad tunes.
About four or five trad submissions for every original tune should be about right.
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by Jeremy
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
One of the problems with diddly music in the last few years is people claiming tunes. I don't think it should matter where a tune came from. A tune should stand on its own merit. I know lots of people who learn tunes just because their mate wrote it and they're not good tunes or even orriginal.
Make yourselves a general rule|: Imagine that you didn't know where the tune came from, or its name or anything. Would you still bother to learn it?
Infact, extend this rule: if you don't know where a tune you know came from, or its name or anything. Would you still bother to play it?
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by llig leahcim
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
The opposite can happen too Michael. A Shetland friend of mine once showed one of his original tunes to members of a well-known Scottish group at a session , which they must have recorded and learnt. It turned up later on their CD as "Trad arr." !!.
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by Bren
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
That's a great story. Your freind should be chuffed to bits. Ask him if he recconed said group would have recorded it if they thought it was anything other than trad. (And don't moan about the royalties, it's chicken feed)
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by llig leahcim
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
Yeah, it wasn't the royalties as you rightly say, it was just the shock of finding they had "taken" his tune without acknowledgement. A large number of well-played Shetland (in particular) tunes are attributable and many of the writers are still living or in living memory, so it wouldn't have hurt to bother to find out who wrote it and put a wee word in. It clearly wasn't ancient trad as it was a modern-style Shetland hornpipe with some jazzy notes. Cracking tune though - I've only heard it live so I can't play it back to you, my ears & memory aren't that good..
On reflection, I think he was chuffed as you say - it was just the initial shock.
# Posted on April 11th 2004 by Bren
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
I have a music buddy who wrote a tune called Jenny's Divorce to go after Jenny's Wedding. It actually sounds like an old tune.
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by JMH
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1 original to 5 trad... ok Jeremy, sounds right. I think I submitted about 5 trad tunes before I dared to post one of mine. I'll keep with that ratio.
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by Phantom Button
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
So, Jeremy, can we request for there to be a separate section for original compositions (ie members of this site), or is there a way to search for them currently?
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by emily_bmore
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
That's a good point Jeremy - I need to think up twelve to fifteen trad tunes now though that aren't already here, AND I know the names of. That will be a challenge. Going to have to dig deep!
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by Kerri Brown
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I've complained about this before. ABC notation should include a composer in the body of the notation.
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by radriano
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
FonV, in case it's of interest, Fiddlecrazy put up a website a while back specially for thesession members' original tunes. The link's in this discussion:
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display.php/2664
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by Tish
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Yikes! I have to start working on that again! I was going full steam on it for a while but then it stopped. If people are interested, I will start working on it again. I made it because I thought it would be really nice to have all the original tunes from the session in one place. There isn't a category for that on the site, so I decided to make a new one.
Let me know if you folks would like that.
And Kerri, I do have one my tunes on this site: Patrick's
-Max
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by Max Becher
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
Jeremy, do you mean that for every 4-5 trad tunes I've submitted I've got to submit one I've composed? God help me
Trevor
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by lazyhound
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
I like the way GM has put his tunes in his tunebook. It makes them easy to find because you can go down the list and browse them like a book. The only thing is, it makes it difficult if he wants to free up his tunebook for anything else. If there was something like a "compositions" book separate from the tunebook, it would mean you could easily locate all the tunes written by one person without having a separate "new compositions" section - if that wasn't what Jeremy wanted to do (I think he's said that before at some point). Just an idea...
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by Dow
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Oh btw Kerri I have a few tunes of my own here as well but I have no idea where they all are - I'd have to go through the database page by page to find them! The one I submitted most recently is "Fagan's Workshop", but I can't remember before that.
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by Dow
Re: Composers, identify yourselves!
Matti wrote a lovely slip jig called "The Grindavik Lasses" which we learnt before he came to Sydney and we played it at the session. Will wrote "Bang Your Frog On The Sofa" and something else I liked but can't track down at the mo. Graphix (? not sure about the name) has written great tunes. The one that springs to mind was called something like "The Yellow Glove". And there's loads of others as well.
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by Dow
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Sorry "The Girls of Grindavik"
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by Dow
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Bang Your Frog is awesome!
-Max
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by Max Becher
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I think 5.347/1 should be the ratio.
PP
# Posted on April 12th 2004 by Pied Piper
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PP, where did you dream up 5.347? A google search revealed one or two interesting possibilities
Trevor
# Posted on April 14th 2004 by lazyhound