As in My Information below here..That's what I was told.
jim,,,
This is mostly for People Learning at Irish Traditional Music !
This is Two different Version's of the same Tune, ' Slip-Jig '..
Not only are they in Different Key's ( Em & Bm ) but,
There's different note's in the Melody esp- the
Last bit of the First one, on here...
Picture's - Of What the Tunes are About -
jim,,,
Yes Thank-you, Dragut Reis
I found That Dever the Dancer. But,as an Alternative name on an Abc text there's another of that 1st tune I'am Playing.
See Here.
X:9
T:Dever the Dancer
T:Humours of Whiskey, The
R:slip jig
Z:id:hn-slipjig-7 without the variation
M:9/8
K:Edor
|:BEE BEF G2A|BEE BAG FGA|BEE BEF G2A|Bcd ABG FED:|
ded =cAF ~G3|Add def gfe|ded =cAF G2A|B^cd ABG FED|
~d3 =cAF ~G3|Add def ~g3|afd efe d2A|Bcd ABG FED|]
Hmmm, I'm not convinced it's a variant of the same tune at all. There are a lot of old slip jigs that switch modes in the second half like this, and rhythmically the emphases are completely different. Sorry, but I reckon that's just somebody's mistake...
You Could be Right ! Dragut Reis.
I have changed the Info to this Below .
What do you advise, Change it right to ' Dever the Dancer ' ???
jim,,,
This is mostly for People Learning at Irish Traditional Music !
This is Two different Version's of the same Tune, ' Slip-Jig '..
Not only are they in Different Key's ( Em & Bm ) but,
There's different note's in the Melody esp- the
Last bit of the First one, on here...
Sometime's Called Dever the Dancer.
Picture's - Of What the Tunes are About -
jim,,,
X:1
T:Dever the Dancer
T:Humours of Whiskey, The
R:slip jig
M:9/8
K:Edor
|:BEE BEF G2A|BEE BAG FGA|BEE BEF G2A|Bcd ABG FED:|
ded =cAF ~G3|Add def gfe|ded =cAF G2A|B^cd ABG FED|
~d3 =cAF ~G3|Add def ~g3|afd efe d2A|Bcd ABG FED||
Jim, they're two different tunes, not different versions of the same tune. The only real similarities are in tune form (slip jigs in 9/8) and that they go from a minor/dorian A part to a major B part. Even if you transposed one into the other's key, they'd still come out different tunes. Compare Humours of Whiskey in Edor to what you have for Dever and you'll see (the only bit that's really similar is the ending for each part):
Just for the craic, why don't you use it to demonstrate the difference between a hop jig and a slip jig. It's easy to see how the same tune can be played either way by comparing the ABCs. If you play the first and third of each group of three it pretty much becomes a hop jig, with a bit of tweaking here and there. I personally think hop jigs are in 3/2, not 9/8, but the same thing could be written out in 9/8 I'm sure.
You'd need to set the note length to L:1/4 for that tune Dragut. It defaults to 1/8 otherwise - making it 3/4 timing. Swedish polska rhythm, like the Coleman Foxhunter's I submitted.
Am I Right !
Am I Right !
As in My Information below here..That's what I was told.
jim,,,
This is mostly for People Learning at Irish Traditional Music !
This is Two different Version's of the same Tune, ' Slip-Jig '..
Not only are they in Different Key's ( Em & Bm ) but,
There's different note's in the Melody esp- the
Last bit of the First one, on here...
Picture's - Of What the Tunes are About -
jim,,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD2KkeJbw8Y&list=UU-gqzf_ikbQ8LZe1nz8r92Q&index=1&feature=plcp
# Posted on February 6th 2012 by FIDDLE4
Re: Am I Right !
The first tune is called Dever the Dancer.
# Posted on February 6th 2012 by Dragut Reis
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Yes Thank-you, Dragut Reis
I found That Dever the Dancer. But,as an Alternative name on an Abc text there's another of that 1st tune I'am Playing.
See Here.
X:9
T:Dever the Dancer
T:Humours of Whiskey, The
R:slip jig
Z:id:hn-slipjig-7 without the variation
M:9/8
K:Edor
|:BEE BEF G2A|BEE BAG FGA|BEE BEF G2A|Bcd ABG FED:|
ded =cAF ~G3|Add def gfe|ded =cAF G2A|B^cd ABG FED|
~d3 =cAF ~G3|Add def ~g3|afd efe d2A|Bcd ABG FED|]
And Here.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/1023
jim,,,
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by FIDDLE4
Re: Am I Right !
Hmmm, I'm not convinced it's a variant of the same tune at all. There are a lot of old slip jigs that switch modes in the second half like this, and rhythmically the emphases are completely different. Sorry, but I reckon that's just somebody's mistake...
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by Dragut Reis
Re: Am I Right !
You Could be Right ! Dragut Reis.
I have changed the Info to this Below .
What do you advise, Change it right to ' Dever the Dancer ' ???
jim,,,
This is mostly for People Learning at Irish Traditional Music !
This is Two different Version's of the same Tune, ' Slip-Jig '..
Not only are they in Different Key's ( Em & Bm ) but,
There's different note's in the Melody esp- the
Last bit of the First one, on here...
Sometime's Called Dever the Dancer.
Picture's - Of What the Tunes are About -
jim,,,
X:1
T:Dever the Dancer
T:Humours of Whiskey, The
R:slip jig
M:9/8
K:Edor
|:BEE BEF G2A|BEE BAG FGA|BEE BEF G2A|Bcd ABG FED:|
ded =cAF ~G3|Add def gfe|ded =cAF G2A|B^cd ABG FED|
~d3 =cAF ~G3|Add def ~g3|afd efe d2A|Bcd ABG FED||
X:2
T:The Humours of Whiskey
R:Slip jig
O:Ireland
M:9/8
K:Bm
gfe fBB fBB|gfe fBB fga|gfe fBB fBB|agf efd cBA:|
d2e fdf ecA|dde fed gfe|d2e fdf efg|agf efd cBA:|
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by FIDDLE4
Re: Am I Right !
Jim, they're two different tunes, not different versions of the same tune. The only real similarities are in tune form (slip jigs in 9/8) and that they go from a minor/dorian A part to a major B part. Even if you transposed one into the other's key, they'd still come out different tunes. Compare Humours of Whiskey in Edor to what you have for Dever and you'll see (the only bit that's really similar is the ending for each part):
X: 2
T: The Humours of Whiskey
R: Slip jig
O: Ireland
M: 9/8
K: Edor
cBA BEE BEE|cBA BEE Bcd|cBA BEE BEE|dcB ABG FED:|
G2A BGB AFD|GGA BAG cBA|G2A BGB ABc|dcB ABG FED:|
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by Will Harmon
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Ok Guy's - I am truly convinced, I'll Scrap that one Now .
And remake 2 new ones Many Thank's Guy's !
jim,,,
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by FIDDLE4
C#?
It should be minor, not dorian...
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by Dragut Reis
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Jim, you had a correct apostrophe in "I'll" there. I'm disappointed in you.
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by DaveL35
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Just for the craic, why don't you use it to demonstrate the difference between a hop jig and a slip jig. It's easy to see how the same tune can be played either way by comparing the ABCs. If you play the first and third of each group of three it pretty much becomes a hop jig, with a bit of tweaking here and there. I personally think hop jigs are in 3/2, not 9/8, but the same thing could be written out in 9/8 I'm sure.
X: 2
T: The Humours of Whiskey
R: Slip jig
O: Ireland
M: 9/8
K: Emin
cBA BEE BEE|cBA BEE Bcd|cBA BEE BEE|dcB ABG FED:|
G2A BGB AFD|GGA BAG cBA|G2A BGB ABc|dcB ABG FED:|
X: 2
T: The Humours of Whiskey
R: Hop jig
M: 3/2
K: Emin
c>A B>E B>E|c>A B>E B>d|c>A B>E B>E|d>B A>B F>D:|
G2 B>G A>F|G2 B>G c>A|G2 B>G A>B|d>B A>B F>D:|
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by Dragut Reis
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You may need to stick it into the Tune-o-tron to see what I'm on about: http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by Dragut Reis
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Been here before:
X:1
T:Foxhunter's
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:D
B>B {c}B>A F>A|B>E E>F G>A|
B2 B>A F>A|d>D D>F E>D:|
|:f>f (3fef g>e|f>f (3fef e>d|
d>f (3fef g>e|a>d d>f e>d:|
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by Weejie
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You'd need to set the note length to L:1/4 for that tune Dragut. It defaults to 1/8 otherwise - making it 3/4 timing. Swedish polska rhythm, like the Coleman Foxhunter's I submitted.
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by Weejie
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I definitely prefer 1/8 to 1/4.
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by Dragut Reis
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"I definitely prefer 1/8 to 1/4"
OK, but then change the time signature to 3/4 otherwise us read too much folks will be confused...
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by cboody
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Ok
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by Dragut Reis
Re: Am I Right !
DaveL35
See, I can do nothing right. lol.
jim,,,
# Posted on February 7th 2012 by FIDDLE4