Can anyone help me out here? In the song “The Galway Shawl” your man says he played “The Blackbird”, “The Stack of Barley”, “Old Rodney’s Glory” and “The Foggy Dew”. Now these are all hornpipes and I have found all of them except The Foggy Dew. I know the song “The Foggy Dew” but this is hardly a hornpipe. Does anyone know the hornpipe referred to in the song? Is it better known under a different name?
Be good.
The English (or best known as English these days) song "The Foggy (Foggy) Dew" would work as a hornpipe; perhaps some version of that is meant? Father O'Neill's Republican "Foggy Dew" used the tune of an older song "The Moorlough Shore" (which is well worth finding).
"The Galway Shawl", in some form, must predate the Easter Rising "Foggy Dew" by decades, but I don't think there's any evidence either way about how old the verse about the tunes is.
Think you are barking up the wrong tree. The next line refers to her singing "each note like an Irish Linnet". So that would make the Foggy Dew - a song.
Looking for this tune I came across P.W. Joyce's "Old Irish Folk Music and Songs", which has a song "The Foggy Dew" with words (at least the first verse) similar to the English one. The tune bears a VERY distant resemblance to "The Moorlough Shore" (aka the Republican "Foggy Dew") - the rhythm is identical, the overall contour is the same, but I can't see how one could be derived from the other.
I got that from an ABC transcription off the web which included this note from Joyce:
- I learned this air when I was a child. Compare it with "Air thaobh na carraige bàine": Petrie, Ancient Music of Ireland, p. 143. Bunting, in his 1840 volume, gives a different air with the same name.
Maybe somebody could look those up and see if they shed any light on this. Every new bit of information makes it more confusing.
The Foggy Dew Hornpipe
The Foggy Dew Hornpipe
Can anyone help me out here? In the song “The Galway Shawl” your man says he played “The Blackbird”, “The Stack of Barley”, “Old Rodney’s Glory” and “The Foggy Dew”. Now these are all hornpipes and I have found all of them except The Foggy Dew. I know the song “The Foggy Dew” but this is hardly a hornpipe. Does anyone know the hornpipe referred to in the song? Is it better known under a different name?
Be good.
# Posted on September 29th 2011 by noelnorton
Re: The Foggy Dew Hornpipe
The Foggy Dew that I know is this one:
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/6862
But I don't play it as a reel. I play it as a slow tune. I think this one was a song tune as well.
# Posted on September 29th 2011 by ethical blend
Re: The Foggy Dew Hornpipe
The Blackbird and Rodneys Glory are set dances(danced by solo
dancer)
# Posted on September 29th 2011 by gooseinthenettles
Re: The Foggy Dew Hornpipe
The English (or best known as English these days) song "The Foggy (Foggy) Dew" would work as a hornpipe; perhaps some version of that is meant? Father O'Neill's Republican "Foggy Dew" used the tune of an older song "The Moorlough Shore" (which is well worth finding).
"The Galway Shawl", in some form, must predate the Easter Rising "Foggy Dew" by decades, but I don't think there's any evidence either way about how old the verse about the tunes is.
# Posted on September 30th 2011 by Jack Campin
Re: The Foggy Dew Hornpipe
Think you are barking up the wrong tree. The next line refers to her singing "each note like an Irish Linnet". So that would make the Foggy Dew - a song.
# Posted on September 30th 2011 by MorganYYZ
Re: The Foggy Dew Hornpipe
Thanks everyone. Guess I will have to rethink this. Three out of four is probably enough anyway.
Be good.
# Posted on October 1st 2011 by noelnorton
Re: The Foggy Dew Hornpipe
I live near Moorlough so i now have a plausible reason to play this tune which i like..well done
# Posted on October 10th 2011 by Bogrambler
Re: The Foggy Dew Hornpipe
This from a random search on mudcat;
THE GALWAY SHAWL
George Henderson 02 Oct 02
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=5434#795707
THE FOGGY DEW (from John McCormack)
Alice 15 Nov 97
http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=3275#16236
# Posted on October 10th 2011 by Batgirl has left the GPL ;)
Re: The Foggy Dew Hornpipe
Looking for this tune I came across P.W. Joyce's "Old Irish Folk Music and Songs", which has a song "The Foggy Dew" with words (at least the first verse) similar to the English one. The tune bears a VERY distant resemblance to "The Moorlough Shore" (aka the Republican "Foggy Dew") - the rhythm is identical, the overall contour is the same, but I can't see how one could be derived from the other.
I got that from an ABC transcription off the web which included this note from Joyce:
- I learned this air when I was a child. Compare it with "Air thaobh na carraige bàine": Petrie, Ancient Music of Ireland, p. 143. Bunting, in his 1840 volume, gives a different air with the same name.
Maybe somebody could look those up and see if they shed any light on this. Every new bit of information makes it more confusing.
# Posted on October 18th 2011 by Jack Campin