I'm doing a 2 week tour of small venues in Ireland in June and I was wondering if anyone knows what the story is on the proper documents are for visiting musicians?
I forget what they are called but there is a large number in the corner like a 5 or a 1 and the better documents have a few zeroes after these numbers. It is even better if you are being given these documents as opposed to handing them out because they are very rarely used just for show and tell.
2 weeks? I'm going, just for vacation for about 10 days soon... I'd day a passport. Other than that, you shouldn't need a work visa for just a coupla weeks. If you collect your pay as second income on your taxes, you can write the trip off as work or education...
Have you googled it? I have, and there are some documents that are required, it looks like, but nothing too serious. I am assuming you have looked at the government sites online.....
Fiddlechick7, I'm pretty sure Buck is asking about Irish forms (like a work permit) to get paid in Ireland legally, and not get sent home immediately as soon as he arrives in Dublin.
For some strange reason affluent countries don't typically seem too keen on letting foreigners come into their country and "take jobs away from the locals".
So who booked you this tour, Buck ?
Your agent/representative should have sorted this all out for you.
Otherwise, coming from outside the EU, there are various regulations I'm sure that apply.
It doesn't sound like you are prepared for this at all. I see you are from Canada. It's usually US citizens that are blinkered and ignorant about the regulations and customs of foreign countries. ( I'm married to one, she is a bit more clued up. ) You can't just stroll across the border into a foreign country and expect to be allowed to work just like that.
If you are playing payed gigs, your travel insurance will not cover your instrument, thats how it is with my normal travel insurance, Just to warn you ;)
and contrary to what some people on this board may think, no, not all Americans are as stupid as you (and you know who you are) would like to think.
sheesh.
Having had to sit through a black tie(except for me) dinner event, last night, filled with a crowd rich people talking about the financial state of the country, and their stake in it , I have come to the conclusion that we are not only dumb but very very boring indeed -so I agree with Guernsey Pete whole heartedly. It's embarrassing the fat stupid clods that populate this country. Maybe if the average high school grad could read at more than an eighth grade level, and was interested in something other than porn, food and video games, we'd not be in the mess we are.
Heh. Yes, it usually is the Americans who are blinkered (though that's not to say that most Americans are usually blinkered... Just that if somebody happens to be blinkered, it often turns out to be an American).
I do remember being coming through the Dublin airport customs one year and hearing an (American) woman with an unusually large pile of luggage, at the desk in the next row over start to freak out in front of the customs agent. Apparently, as I heard her say, she was in the process of MOVING to Ireland, and had taken care of everything at home (sold her house, her car, etc.) but had somehow neglected to even consider the possibility that Ireland might expect her to have applied for proper visa before she arrived.
I don't think they let her in the country. I bet she had some awkward phone calls to make when she got home...
Well Buck, sounds like you'll just have to tell them your on holiday and have them send the money to canada by wire transfer. If you have someone at home draft up an invoice issued from canada (better if it's a real company) with bank details included then you should get away with it on the "visa waver" between canada and ireland. Then technically your not working in ireland but working for a canadian concern that just happens to have a contract in ireland. As no money changes hands in ireland it's technically legal but you'll need someone in canada to sort it out by way of a legit front for this venture.
Otherwise, just lie and say your on holiday and hoping to learn some irish music in Dublin (to explain the instrument), there's hundreds at it one more want make a huge difference to their economy (unless your getting a 70 billion fee). Also travel through emigration separately from your band members, if you all turn up in matching cowboy gear sporting instruments what is a simple concept could be end up being a difficult concept to sell to the boyos on the gate.
Required documentation to tour in Ireland
Required documentation to tour in Ireland
Hello everyone!
I'm doing a 2 week tour of small venues in Ireland in June and I was wondering if anyone knows what the story is on the proper documents are for visiting musicians?
# Posted on April 7th 2011 by Buck
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
You have to pass the Cricket Test.
# Posted on April 7th 2011 by nicholas
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
I forget what they are called but there is a large number in the corner like a 5 or a 1 and the better documents have a few zeroes after these numbers. It is even better if you are being given these documents as opposed to handing them out because they are very rarely used just for show and tell.
# Posted on April 7th 2011 by MorganYYZ
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
So, are you touring as in playing gigs at the small venues? are you asking about a work permit?
# Posted on April 7th 2011 by Wyogal
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
2 weeks? I'm going, just for vacation for about 10 days soon... I'd day a passport. Other than that, you shouldn't need a work visa for just a coupla weeks. If you collect your pay as second income on your taxes, you can write the trip off as work or education...
# Posted on April 7th 2011 by Fiddlechick7
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
Yes aa visa is what I meant
# Posted on April 8th 2011 by Buck
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
or work permit or whatever it's called.
# Posted on April 8th 2011 by Buck
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
Have you googled it? I have, and there are some documents that are required, it looks like, but nothing too serious. I am assuming you have looked at the government sites online.....
# Posted on April 8th 2011 by Wyogal
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
Fiddlechick7, I'm pretty sure Buck is asking about Irish forms (like a work permit) to get paid in Ireland legally, and not get sent home immediately as soon as he arrives in Dublin.
For some strange reason affluent countries don't typically seem too keen on letting foreigners come into their country and "take jobs away from the locals".
# Posted on April 8th 2011 by Georgi
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/moving_to_ireland/working_in_ireland/coming_to_work_in_ireland.html
# Posted on April 8th 2011 by Prof. Prlwytzkofski
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
So who booked you this tour, Buck ?
Your agent/representative should have sorted this all out for you.
Otherwise, coming from outside the EU, there are various regulations I'm sure that apply.
It doesn't sound like you are prepared for this at all. I see you are from Canada. It's usually US citizens that are blinkered and ignorant about the regulations and customs of foreign countries. ( I'm married to one, she is a bit more clued up. ) You can't just stroll across the border into a foreign country and expect to be allowed to work just like that.
# Posted on April 8th 2011 by Guernsey Pete
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
If you are playing payed gigs, your travel insurance will not cover your instrument, thats how it is with my normal travel insurance, Just to warn you ;)
# Posted on April 8th 2011 by houlberg
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
gee, thanks, Guernsey.
# Posted on April 8th 2011 by Wyogal
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
and contrary to what some people on this board may think, no, not all Americans are as stupid as you (and you know who you are) would like to think.
sheesh.
# Posted on April 10th 2011 by Wyogal
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
But we have better teeth than the Brits!
Having had to sit through a black tie(except for me) dinner event, last night, filled with a crowd rich people talking about the financial state of the country, and their stake in it , I have come to the conclusion that we are not only dumb but very very boring indeed -so I agree with Guernsey Pete whole heartedly. It's embarrassing the fat stupid clods that populate this country. Maybe if the average high school grad could read at more than an eighth grade level, and was interested in something other than porn, food and video games, we'd not be in the mess we are.
# Posted on April 10th 2011 by shanty
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
Heh. Yes, it usually is the Americans who are blinkered (though that's not to say that most Americans are usually blinkered... Just that if somebody happens to be blinkered, it often turns out to be an American).
I do remember being coming through the Dublin airport customs one year and hearing an (American) woman with an unusually large pile of luggage, at the desk in the next row over start to freak out in front of the customs agent. Apparently, as I heard her say, she was in the process of MOVING to Ireland, and had taken care of everything at home (sold her house, her car, etc.) but had somehow neglected to even consider the possibility that Ireland might expect her to have applied for proper visa before she arrived.
I don't think they let her in the country. I bet she had some awkward phone calls to make when she got home...
Oops.
# Posted on April 11th 2011 by Georgi
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
Well Buck, sounds like you'll just have to tell them your on holiday and have them send the money to canada by wire transfer. If you have someone at home draft up an invoice issued from canada (better if it's a real company) with bank details included then you should get away with it on the "visa waver" between canada and ireland. Then technically your not working in ireland but working for a canadian concern that just happens to have a contract in ireland. As no money changes hands in ireland it's technically legal but you'll need someone in canada to sort it out by way of a legit front for this venture.
Otherwise, just lie and say your on holiday and hoping to learn some irish music in Dublin (to explain the instrument), there's hundreds at it one more want make a huge difference to their economy (unless your getting a 70 billion fee). Also travel through emigration separately from your band members, if you all turn up in matching cowboy gear sporting instruments what is a simple concept could be end up being a difficult concept to sell to the boyos on the gate.
# Posted on April 11th 2011 by Solidmahog
Re: Required documentation to tour in Ireland
Nicholas, may I root for Ireland or must it be only England & Wales?
# Posted on April 11th 2011 by Ben Steen