@DubChieftain - what do you find racist about this? Slagging off bodhrans, yes, but racist? I'm mixed race meself (half Korean) and certainly found nothing offensive about it.
Bad Finger, don't be so quick to dismiss bliss. Judging by the legion of fans, bodhran is clearly *the* most popular traditional instrument, and by extension, players of the holy goat are the most popular of trad musicians.
Just not among those of us who play the actual tunes.
And that's not a bad thing. See, those of us who play the actual tunes don't do it to win popular acclaim. We don't even play the right music for that. Instead of worrying about our popularity or lack thereof, we simply find utter happiness in playing the tunes. If our playing or our tunes became popular, it would become much more difficult to enjoy a cozy little session on an off night at the local pub. We don't want that to happen.
I suppose it's a bit of a zen thing, which few bodhran thumpers seem to grok. (The ones who do inevitably end up learning a melody instrument.)
And bliss is absolutely right--the popularity of the bodhran is what draws ignorant masses to sessions, threatening to overwhelm otherwise intimate little circles of friends and neighbors making music. That is what causes all the problems.
This is hilarious. The guy who made that cartoon, by the way, is a great fiddler himself, as well as being a fine drummer. I've never heard him play the bodhran, though.
We have words like racist, sexist, etc, to describe a variety of predjudices. But we desperately need one that describes predjudice against bodhrans. Any folks out there that have any ideas about an addition to the lexicon?
Bad Finger, don't be so quick to dismiss bliss. Judging by the legion of fans, bodhran is clearly *the* most popular traditional instrument, and by extension, players of the holy goat are the most popular of trad musicians.
Just not among those of us who play the actual tunes.
And that's not a bad thing. See, those of us who play the actual tunes don't do it to win popular acclaim.
Well there is always one. (-)
Semi tongue in cheek what OI posted is actually true to an extent. Melody players doing wonderful stuff and the people in the bar are only interested in the drum. "Oh I love those, are they easy to play....." and so forth. And women love bodhran players. This can cause animosity among melody players.
same thing with singers. You get a really good singer doing haunting ballads and along comes someone to "shout" out a well known raucous song. People love it, and the good singer is deflated.
Or as my mate is fond of saying "never underestimate the ability to gulder a well known song".
@A; Brown
"We have words like racist, sexist, etc, to describe a variety of prejudices. But we desperately need one that describes prejudice against bodhrans. Any folks out there that have any ideas about an addition to the lexicon?"
We have words like racist, sexist, etc, to describe a variety of predjudices. But we desperately need one that describes predjudice against bodhrans. Any folks out there that have any ideas about an addition to the lexicon?
Shawist
Unfortunately, Amazon are no longer guaranteeing deliveries in time for Christmas, so I guess I'll just have to wait until the New Year for my 3-CD set ....
There is a very important lesson here in this skit.
Even if you:
1. Just bought the thing yesterday
2. Never played drums or percussion in your life
...do not admit or confess either of these things!
Simply act like you know what you are doing, sit down, pull the sucker out and start beating the snot out of the thing. That way, it will take the musicians longer to evict you from the session.
On the (rare and unheard of) chance that you are an actual drummer then there's a 50%+ chance you may be allowed to stay.
Even if you have just bought the thing yesterday and never played a piece of percussion in your life, using this method would, I think, let you get away with at least beating up a couple of tunes before getting kicked out.
However, if you mention the two above items right off the bat like the teddy bear in the video, then there is no help for you.
You must use proper covert techniques to cover your ignorance and utter lack of decorum.
Count me in among the "lay off of Uncle Shelby" crowd. His books of poetry - for kids, supposedly - are probably among the most-read poetry of the twentieth century, at least if I'm to go by their ubiquity on the shelves of my friends, both with and without kids. For me, they were an essential part of my childhood reading.
Hehe if you think the name is appalling, bliss, you have yet to fully experience The Unicorn Song. It's actually a rather dark cautionary tale of biblical proportions, but there was a jolly version put out by a Canadian ballad group The Irish Rovers that has made it somehow "Irish" to millions of North Americans.
Pardon, me. Now I have to go drive the porcelain bus, and then take a hazmat shower.....
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Will Harmon
Now I suspect Dub Chieftain was joking and refering to the black bear not being allowed in.
however, in England they have strict laws about racism and anyone looking at the photo of that Group, and listening to the song, would immediately think they were extracting the urine from the Irish.
May I join the Irish Music session?
May I join the Irish Music session?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk5XdLZGzPA&feature=player_embedded
# Posted on December 19th 2010 by matti
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Ha ha, brilliant!
# Posted on December 19th 2010 by Steve Shaw
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
racist.
# Posted on December 19th 2010 by DubChieftain
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Stuffed animals are evil, destroy all the stuffed animals before it's too late!
# Posted on December 19th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Bodhrans r cool dat video=BMF
# Posted on December 19th 2010 by Oeidipus
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
@DubChieftain - what do you find racist about this? Slagging off bodhrans, yes, but racist? I'm mixed race meself (half Korean) and certainly found nothing offensive about it.
# Posted on December 19th 2010 by triplet upstairs
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
It certainly captures the essence of jealous melody players who feel threatened by popular bodhran players.
And that as we know, is what causes all the problems.
# Posted on December 19th 2010 by bodhran bliss
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
"Threatened by popular bodhran players"
Ha ha ha...
# Posted on December 19th 2010 by Gallowglass
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Poor we Teddy Bear - lol..
jim,,,
# Posted on December 19th 2010 by FIDDLE4
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Bad Finger, don't be so quick to dismiss bliss. Judging by the legion of fans, bodhran is clearly *the* most popular traditional instrument, and by extension, players of the holy goat are the most popular of trad musicians.
Just not among those of us who play the actual tunes.
And that's not a bad thing. See, those of us who play the actual tunes don't do it to win popular acclaim. We don't even play the right music for that. Instead of worrying about our popularity or lack thereof, we simply find utter happiness in playing the tunes. If our playing or our tunes became popular, it would become much more difficult to enjoy a cozy little session on an off night at the local pub. We don't want that to happen.
I suppose it's a bit of a zen thing, which few bodhran thumpers seem to grok. (The ones who do inevitably end up learning a melody instrument.)
And bliss is absolutely right--the popularity of the bodhran is what draws ignorant masses to sessions, threatening to overwhelm otherwise intimate little circles of friends and neighbors making music. That is what causes all the problems.
# Posted on December 19th 2010 by Will Harmon
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
P.S. Matti, it's great to see you back here, and your session-themed art work again!
# Posted on December 19th 2010 by Will Harmon
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
This is hilarious. The guy who made that cartoon, by the way, is a great fiddler himself, as well as being a fine drummer. I've never heard him play the bodhran, though.
# Posted on December 19th 2010 by Jon Kiparsky
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Disclaimer: This clip is not my work - I'm just humbly passing on the fun...
# Posted on December 19th 2010 by matti
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Awesome -- made my day!
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by fidkid
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Good catch, DubChieftain.
Definitely racist, no mistaking it.
The teddy bear on the right who wants to join in the session is obviously Welsh.
Shameful.
An Chomhairle um Chearta Daonna
shall hear about this.
And ILGO.
Cheers, all.
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Piece
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
There are a few of these going around, one parodying wedding photographers.
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by sara505sings
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Ooops, sorry for the confusion, matti. But it's still good to see you posting here again.
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Will Harmon
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Thanks Will,
nice to pop by again!
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by matti
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Has anyone ever played the unicorn song at a session?
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Bredna
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Q: What do you call a person who hangs around with Irish Trad musicians?
A: A drummer.
There's a great one of these done about cross-fit, if any of you are into that...
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by chris stolz
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
We have words like racist, sexist, etc, to describe a variety of predjudices. But we desperately need one that describes predjudice against bodhrans. Any folks out there that have any ideas about an addition to the lexicon?
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by AlBrown
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
"Sensible" would be my vote.
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Jon Kiparsky
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by AlBrown
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Prejudice against bodhran players on the internet =
egotist.
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by gam
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Ha! That was great...
They also did one on orchestral percussionists which is quite funny too, especially for any of us from classical music backgrounds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xja3S5iz9rc
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by natepedersen
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Bad Finger, don't be so quick to dismiss bliss. Judging by the legion of fans, bodhran is clearly *the* most popular traditional instrument, and by extension, players of the holy goat are the most popular of trad musicians.
Just not among those of us who play the actual tunes.
And that's not a bad thing. See, those of us who play the actual tunes don't do it to win popular acclaim.
Well there is always one. (-)
Semi tongue in cheek what OI posted is actually true to an extent. Melody players doing wonderful stuff and the people in the bar are only interested in the drum. "Oh I love those, are they easy to play....." and so forth. And women love bodhran players. This can cause animosity among melody players.
same thing with singers. You get a really good singer doing haunting ballads and along comes someone to "shout" out a well known raucous song. People love it, and the good singer is deflated.
Or as my mate is fond of saying "never underestimate the ability to gulder a well known song".
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by bodhran bliss
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
@A; Brown
"We have words like racist, sexist, etc, to describe a variety of prejudices. But we desperately need one that describes prejudice against bodhrans. Any folks out there that have any ideas about an addition to the lexicon?"
Instrumentalist?!
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by RockyRoader
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Musician?
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by DrSilverSpear
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
We have words like racist, sexist, etc, to describe a variety of predjudices. But we desperately need one that describes predjudice against bodhrans. Any folks out there that have any ideas about an addition to the lexicon?
Shawist
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Oeidipus
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
« But we desperately need one that describes predjudice against bodhrans »
Percussionist?
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Jeeves Tones
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Jealousy
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by bodhran bliss
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Unicorn Song - Irish Rovers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EPsuOEH1fY
Unfortunately, Amazon are no longer guaranteeing deliveries in time for Christmas, so I guess I'll just have to wait until the New Year for my 3-CD set ....
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Mix O'Lydian
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
There is a very important lesson here in this skit.
Even if you:
1. Just bought the thing yesterday
2. Never played drums or percussion in your life
...do not admit or confess either of these things!
Simply act like you know what you are doing, sit down, pull the sucker out and start beating the snot out of the thing. That way, it will take the musicians longer to evict you from the session.
On the (rare and unheard of) chance that you are an actual drummer then there's a 50%+ chance you may be allowed to stay.
Even if you have just bought the thing yesterday and never played a piece of percussion in your life, using this method would, I think, let you get away with at least beating up a couple of tunes before getting kicked out.
However, if you mention the two above items right off the bat like the teddy bear in the video, then there is no help for you.
You must use proper covert techniques to cover your ignorance and utter lack of decorum.
Good luck to all you aspiring session wreckers!
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
I just love the fact that the song-writer for the "Irish Rovers" is a Canadian fella by the name of Shel Silverstein.
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by ethical blend
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Point of order! He was born in Chicago!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shel_Silverstein#Songs
He also wrote the Johnny Cash hit "A Boy Named Sue" among others.
None of this excuses the Irish Rovers however.
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Shel Silverstein strikes again
Shel's "The Mermaid" was covered in 2005 by Great Big Sea.
He was actually an amazing talent, known stateside (and possibly further afield) for his children's book "The Giving Tree" among others.
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by fidkid
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
"And women love bodhran players"
Well, I don't know about that, but since I took up the fiddle I get laid quite a bit.
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Gallowglass
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Count me in among the "lay off of Uncle Shelby" crowd. His books of poetry - for kids, supposedly - are probably among the most-read poetry of the twentieth century, at least if I'm to go by their ubiquity on the shelves of my friends, both with and without kids. For me, they were an essential part of my childhood reading.
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Jon Kiparsky
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
" ...and the pontoon bridge was gone!"
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Atahualpa Quigley
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
There actual is something called "The Unicorn Song????????"
Oh my god.
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by bodhran bliss
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Hehe if you think the name is appalling, bliss, you have yet to fully experience The Unicorn Song. It's actually a rather dark cautionary tale of biblical proportions, but there was a jolly version put out by a Canadian ballad group The Irish Rovers that has made it somehow "Irish" to millions of North Americans.
I actually submitted a jig version of the tune here some time ago:
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/4325
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by fidkid
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EPsuOEH1fY
Pardon, me. Now I have to go drive the porcelain bus, and then take a hazmat shower.....
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Will Harmon
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Here's a nice antidote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21R2qxLsFrA&feature=related
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Seosamh Ui Sinan
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
You mean.....they weren't Irish guys, but Canadians...doing smarmy impressions of Irish guys?!! Grounds for a lawsuit....
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Atahualpa Quigley
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Why didn't the Canadian government act? Why were the Irish residents of Canada silent?
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Atahualpa Quigley
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
Why didn't the Canadian government act? This is how it acts when given the chance:
http://archives.cbc.ca/economy_business/trade_agreements/clips/2634/
# Posted on December 21st 2010 by oldstrings
Re: May I join the Irish Music session?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EPsuOEH1fY
Pardon, me. Now I have to go drive the porcelain bus, and then take a hazmat shower.....
# Posted on December 20th 2010 by Will Harmon
Now I suspect Dub Chieftain was joking and refering to the black bear not being allowed in.
however, in England they have strict laws about racism and anyone looking at the photo of that Group, and listening to the song, would immediately think they were extracting the urine from the Irish.
They would be arrested on the spot.
# Posted on December 21st 2010 by bodhran bliss
For Mr. llig leahcim...
I'm sorry if this has been posted before-I did a quick search but I may have missed something...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk5XdLZGzPA&feature=related
# Posted on March 31st 2011 by biggus dave
Re: For Mr. llig leahcim...
Yes, it's been posted before.
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/26278/
# Posted on March 31st 2011 by DaveL35
Re: For Mr. llig leahcim...
Sorry,please ignore!
# Posted on March 31st 2011 by biggus dave
Re: For Mr. llig leahcim...
Posted many times in fact. I did enjoy it the first time though.
# Posted on March 31st 2011 by No Cause For Alarm