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Chords

Chords

I am looking for guitar chords for Dr. Gilbert, Mc Faddens handsome daughter and sean ryans jig. Can anybody advise or guide me to a good website

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by john jenkin

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Sorting through this forum using a search pattern will throw up many suggestions as to how to find suitable chords for your tunes -a quick way is to look at the tune, and pick out the important notes in each bar and phrase, and work out which chords would fit best with those notes.
Or find an accompanist with a good ear. That might be quicker.
Many musicians will disagree with arrangements for tunes posted here or elsewhere - it's a very individual thing, finding a satisfactory arrangement.

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by Guernsey Pete

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No. There isn't one. Learn to use your ears.

One of the members of this site, AlBrown, has a lot of good info about accompanying Irish trad in his profile. Start there. http://www.thesession.org/members/display/7960.

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by DrSilverSpear

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I agree with TSS, you just have to make them up yourself (or as I do, make it up as I go along : )

Pete's idea of analyzing the abc files has some merit to it for a quick fix providing you note his caveat regarding validity of the arrangements you look at.

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by Solidmahog

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The difficulty is always deciding which are the notes defining the harmonies, and which are the passing notes. To one person it will be plain, to another less obvious.
And so we have two guitarists, or whatever, across a session, making disharmony and mud.

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by Guernsey Pete

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To be fair though, part of the learning of how to accompany is to see what chords other people think are appropriate to a tune, and then try them out for yourself and see how they work and fit together.

Sean Ryan's Jig here: http://www.celticguitarmusic.com/tbj_sean_ryan%27s.htm

Doctor Gilbert here: http://www.freesheetmusic.net/top100irish/DoctorGilbert.pdf

McFaddens Handsome Daughter here: http://www.celtic-sheet-music.com/dance/McFaddensHandsomeDaughter.pdf

Dilligent searching on the web for the tune name in double quotes plus the words "sheet music" will normally turn something up. Lots of sheet music online is in the form of image files, so the Google image search can be helpful.

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by Red Menace

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try playing the above suggested chords for Doctor Gilbert's as minor unless you really want to get yerself noticed :)



# Posted on December 8th 2010 by fiddlingpea

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Tough crowd this morning.

Not everyone was blessed with 'Harmony/Theory' Classes in grammar school- They were the bane of my existance, though now I really appreciate them!

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by zippydw

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"can anybody advise or guide me to a good website"

not this one apparently

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by harmonic miner

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Many thesessioners would say there are no chords in trad

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by harmonic miner

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there's no triad in trad :)

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by olonguet

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You have to learn to fish for yourself, because the fish that someone gives you may work for you and your friends.

...and also because there is no magic website that has chords listed for every tune. ;-)

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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'...may NOT work for you...'

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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I agree re learning to fish for yourself

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by harmonic miner

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That's genius Swiffle! A magic website with a Chords section. It will have links to this tune collection, & a comment feature for members to post their alternate diads, harmonies, drones, et. al. Call it www.HoldTheMustard.org
What's a good color theme? It's important to pay tribute to the traditions here.

Seriously though (sorry!) Most of the chord players I play with are capable of working up chords for our new tunes. What curdles my milk though, is one guitarist who often says, "I'll look some up, online." He always finds something. Anyone care to guess how that usually sounds?

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by Ben Steen

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Oh sure, it's a brilliant idea. Every accompanist in this music all over the world would play the same thing. It would work just the way the tunes do, you know, because every player all over the world plays the same exact notes, precisely as they are listed here on this website.

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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[vainly tries to keep a straight face]

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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If not ~
http://www.celtic-sheet-music.com/dance/McFaddensHandsomeDaughter.pdf
A part:
A|A|A|A|A|A|A|A
maybe try ~
http://www.celtic-sheet-music.com/oneills/McFaddensHandsomeDaughter.pdf
A part:
E|E|E|E|E|E|E|E
or ...
http://www.freesheetmusic.net/oneills14/McFaddensHandsomeDaughter.pdf
which brings us back to,
http://www.freesheetmusic.net/dance6/McFaddensHandsomeDaughter.pdf

# Posted on December 8th 2010 by Ben Steen

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"You have to learn to fish for yourself, because the fish that someone gives you may work for you and your friends." [SWFL Fiddler]


"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. " [E. Cantona]


# Posted on December 8th 2010 by Steve Shaw

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Ben and SWFL, Great idea about the website, but lets go one better. The magic website should display no more than one chord per measure, and simple chords at that. So that even the least talented of guitarists can jump right in and join the fun!!! ;-)

# Posted on December 9th 2010 by AlBrown

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Here is my 1st submission for NotUpToMustard.org
|:"A" "D":|
Re: What are the chords to...
A and D
Posted on April 18th 2007 by llig leahcim
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/13420/comments#comment276350

# Posted on December 9th 2010 by Ben Steen

...

The Magic Site, of course, allows transcribers to edit; w/in reason. My bad! There needs be a barline, at least, between the A & D chord.

# Posted on December 9th 2010 by Ben Steen

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