I am looking to buy a C/G anglo concertina with 30 buttons.
I thought maybe a Morse Ceili or similar as that is about my budget and I am only just starting.
what would we be searching for? I've had mine 2 years and I got no complaints. Didn't really see alot of bad stuff when I searched the comments. Is my Rochelle going to explode? Do I need to worry? I've never heard anything about these other than "good concertina for the price". What's the problem with Rochelle's?
Nate, you get what you pay for. "for the price" is the operative phrase in your post. I haven't ever enjoyed a single moment playing a Rochelle. I find them clunky and unresponsive. I don't know if you have played many top-end concertinas: Jeffries, Wheatstone, Carroll, Suttner, Dipper, et al. There is a reason why the best players play these rather than Rochelles. There is as much difference between a really good concertina and a Rochelle as there is between an Olwell or Grinter flute and a heavy German eight-key flute.
After two years with a Rochelle you should be ready to move on to the next level. If you aren't ready, that says more about your playing than about the quality of the Rochelle.
Well fellas, I certainly never had the chance to even SEE a Jeffries, Wheatstone, or anything like that. So if you have one of those around, I figure, sure, you'll want to play that one.
but I thought somebody said something about just starting out and on a budget and all, so I suggested the Rochelle. It's done good for me
But I have a policy of not spending more than $500 USD on an instrument unless I have paying gigs lined up on it, but that's just my way of keeping my music habit from landing me homeless and on the street busking with a $3,000 concertina
For less than $500, I've got a lot of use out of mine. If you just want to try out a concertina, they are sure better than the other ones in that price range.
But you made it sound like they were a scam, so I was curious if mine was going to fall apart or what
...not a Wheatstone, absolutely. I'll give you that
@ Nate: is making money with music the driving factor? Is getting gigs the primary reason for getting a better instrument? Making music isn't all about the hustle to get gigs. Neither is getting gigs the best reason for getting a better instrument.
Cocus, yes, making money is the driving factor for me when I'm talking about spending more than $500 USD on an instrument. I said that was just my own personal policy. YMMV
I just can't see plunking down 2 or 3 grand on an instrument just to get started. That's why I don't play oboe or bari sax, or the pipes for that matter.
besides, I thought we talking about somebody just starting and on a budget?
Yes, we are talking about somebody just starting and on a budget. I can certainly see somebody spending $2,000-3,000 when starting out. The Morse Ceili costs about $2,000. That's what Wanda mentioned. That seems an appropriate budget to me. It is ten times better than the Rochelle. I'd much rather see a beginner go for a Morse, or any good hybrid, than a Chinese piece of junk. You recommended the Rochelle after she'd mentioned the Morse.
I don't think that, as a fan of bodhrans and vuvuzelas, you should be advising a beginner on what concertina he/she should buy.
Thanks for all the replies. I suppose starting at between $1000 and $2000 is alot but I have been playing button box for about five years and having heard quite a few concertinas around, I would like to start on one that would make it easier for me, like action and tone. Also thats what I can afford at the moment so I may as well go for it.
I bought a new 30 button Rochelle in UK on eBay for under £100. I was aware of its limitations & there is a demo of it on Youtube.
However I'm not going to spend 10 times this amount for a good concertina while I'm seeing if I can play/like the box.
As a flute/tinwhistle player I found it reminded me of playing the harmonica as a child and just as much fun.
Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
I am looking to buy a C/G anglo concertina with 30 buttons.
I thought maybe a Morse Ceili or similar as that is about my budget and I am only just starting.
# Posted on November 2nd 2010 by wanda
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
the Button Box is selling Rochelle Anglo's for a pretty fair price.
worth a look if you are just starting out
# Posted on November 2nd 2010 by Nate Ryan
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
You might want to check on Concertina.net for instruments for sale.
Before you consider buying a Rochelle, please search the comments on that site.
# Posted on November 2nd 2010 by Michael Eskin
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
what would we be searching for? I've had mine 2 years and I got no complaints. Didn't really see alot of bad stuff when I searched the comments. Is my Rochelle going to explode? Do I need to worry? I've never heard anything about these other than "good concertina for the price". What's the problem with Rochelle's?
# Posted on November 2nd 2010 by Nate Ryan
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
Nate, you get what you pay for. "for the price" is the operative phrase in your post. I haven't ever enjoyed a single moment playing a Rochelle. I find them clunky and unresponsive. I don't know if you have played many top-end concertinas: Jeffries, Wheatstone, Carroll, Suttner, Dipper, et al. There is a reason why the best players play these rather than Rochelles. There is as much difference between a really good concertina and a Rochelle as there is between an Olwell or Grinter flute and a heavy German eight-key flute.
After two years with a Rochelle you should be ready to move on to the next level. If you aren't ready, that says more about your playing than about the quality of the Rochelle.
# Posted on November 2nd 2010 by David Levine
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
Sent you a PM
# Posted on November 2nd 2010 by BrianR
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
I have a rochelle for sale, currently based in europe, but I could bring it over to the states in the new year
# Posted on November 3rd 2010 by Tirno
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
Well fellas, I certainly never had the chance to even SEE a Jeffries, Wheatstone, or anything like that. So if you have one of those around, I figure, sure, you'll want to play that one.
but I thought somebody said something about just starting out and on a budget and all, so I suggested the Rochelle. It's done good for me
But I have a policy of not spending more than $500 USD on an instrument unless I have paying gigs lined up on it, but that's just my way of keeping my music habit from landing me homeless and on the street busking with a $3,000 concertina
For less than $500, I've got a lot of use out of mine. If you just want to try out a concertina, they are sure better than the other ones in that price range.
But you made it sound like they were a scam, so I was curious if mine was going to fall apart or what
...not a Wheatstone, absolutely. I'll give you that
# Posted on November 3rd 2010 by Nate Ryan
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
Try Mulroy Music . They always have Morse in stock and always seem to be cheaper than other agents. Their website is www.mulroymusic.ie
# Posted on November 3rd 2010 by Patrick Mc
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
@ Nate: is making money with music the driving factor? Is getting gigs the primary reason for getting a better instrument? Making music isn't all about the hustle to get gigs. Neither is getting gigs the best reason for getting a better instrument.
# Posted on November 3rd 2010 by David Levine
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
Cocus, yes, making money is the driving factor for me when I'm talking about spending more than $500 USD on an instrument. I said that was just my own personal policy. YMMV
I just can't see plunking down 2 or 3 grand on an instrument just to get started. That's why I don't play oboe or bari sax, or the pipes for that matter.
besides, I thought we talking about somebody just starting and on a budget?
# Posted on November 3rd 2010 by Nate Ryan
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
Yes, we are talking about somebody just starting and on a budget. I can certainly see somebody spending $2,000-3,000 when starting out. The Morse Ceili costs about $2,000. That's what Wanda mentioned. That seems an appropriate budget to me. It is ten times better than the Rochelle. I'd much rather see a beginner go for a Morse, or any good hybrid, than a Chinese piece of junk. You recommended the Rochelle after she'd mentioned the Morse.
I don't think that, as a fan of bodhrans and vuvuzelas, you should be advising a beginner on what concertina he/she should buy.
# Posted on November 3rd 2010 by David Levine
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
contact barleycorn concertinas and get yourself a 26key lachenal, that is the best value for money.
# Posted on November 3rd 2010 by Dick Miles
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
I have a mint Morse C/G that I am selling. Will contact you directly. Tom
# Posted on November 3rd 2010 by Tom Perrotti
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
I guess the one "lesson" I gave you wasn't enough, Tom!
# Posted on November 4th 2010 by GaryAMartin
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
Thanks for all the replies. I suppose starting at between $1000 and $2000 is alot but I have been playing button box for about five years and having heard quite a few concertinas around, I would like to start on one that would make it easier for me, like action and tone. Also thats what I can afford at the moment so I may as well go for it.
# Posted on November 4th 2010 by wanda
Re: Anyone selling a C/G Anglo concertina?
I bought a new 30 button Rochelle in UK on eBay for under £100. I was aware of its limitations & there is a demo of it on Youtube.
However I'm not going to spend 10 times this amount for a good concertina while I'm seeing if I can play/like the box.
As a flute/tinwhistle player I found it reminded me of playing the harmonica as a child and just as much fun.
PeadarSean
# Posted on November 16th 2010 by sheepdip