Do we think it is deliberate, per chance, that Mr Miles' latest nom de plume is a character who so epitomises the attribute of pretending to be what one is not?
The dance goes under many names, such as The Culchie's Canoodle, The Townland Strutters Ball, The Wellyboot Shuffle, The Down Fan's Lament, etc. It's more usually performed by uncles at weddings or any other commemoration.
Incase anyone is having trouble following this, Dick Miles, the second poster in this discussion, was briefly calling himself Don Quixote. At the moment of wring this, he is calling himself "music reader". And for some inexplicable reason has copy pasted the info in my biog into his own. Is that flattery? I'm not sure.
But back to the original question......
......( forget Dick Miles or whoever )....
............I think he's just enjoying that they're playing the tune so slow he can get all the steps in.
And, so maybe he's drunk, well he's just enjoying himself without bothering anyone else.
What's wrong with that ?
I don't think it's clever or funny to take the p**s out of someone because they're drunk.
He is obviously making tentative and surreptitious essays at the Zeimbekiko, a stately solo dance for blokes that emerged in Greece some time between the world wars (as far as I'm aware).
It involves going round in circles, crouching, essaying great leaps, and other motions consonant with the dancer's state of mind and physical capabilities. These, in the golden age of Rebetika music, were often enough rendered quite unfathomable and fairly hair-raising by the quantities of hashish ingested by the dancer from the communal hookah or elsewhere.
A particular tour de force was lifting a table in one's teeth with one or more blokes upon it. To do this, one probably had to be out of one's head; to opt to sit or stand on the table, one fairly definitely had to be out of one's head. Or so I imagine. These things are outwith my personal experience. Meanwhile plates would be smashed in a frenzy at the dancer's feet, at any rate if he excelled. Mind, the plates had to be paid for, so this wasn't routine.
The idea of the Zeimbekiko becoming a mass clubland fashion - though its characteristics are not incompatible with this - is fairly horrific and not to be borne.
"And, so maybe he's drunk, well he's just enjoying himself without bothering anyone else" - well, it was supposed to be a light hearted thread but seeing as you want to get on your high horse, how the hell do you know? Not all drunks are harmless.
this guy is harmless enough
.Iagree with Guernsey Pete, It is not clever or funny to take the p*ss out of someone when they are drunk.
I have read DonQuixote, I do have a sense of humour, which is precisely why I called myself Don Quixote.
I dont really know what the hell this thread is doing on an irish music forum.
you know him? It's not you cause you've got a beard. Never mind this thread, what the hell are you doing on an Irish music forum. Off you go and do some practice. Try coming back it 20 odd years.
What do you find funny about putting up a picture like this?
your group The Peat Bog Faeries must regularly play in front of people who are p*ssed and stoned and who dance about in a drunken/stoned manner, they pay your wages
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_TdfGa8ALQ
I have danced about like that many times in front of the Peatbogs and others (the second video - definitely not the first) and I can guarantee that I have never been p*ssed or stoned when doing it. Maybe some of them are but they are all having a good time as was the guy in the first video.
Perhaps some folk on here just need to lighten up and see the funny side.
Perhaps the guy in the first video was working on his audition for a remake of Scotch & Wry (3:02 onwards):
Random, I agree. But "music reader"'s behaviour often requires a quick reminder of who he is - with all his constant name and profile changing etc. (And I make no appology to the people who sat and listened to all of it ... that's your own bloody fault)
Random, you don't have to watch the clips if you don't like them. Sorry for wasting the 10 seconds of your time in opening it, but hey, this is the internet so I'm sure it's not the only 10 seconds wasted today! This was supposed to be a light hearted Sunday morning clip. I'm sure many of us has had folk worse for wear dancing while we play and many of us have been that person
Llig, regarding "music reader"'s behaviour, I would imagine the folk here only see the half of it. Do you get hate mail from him too telling you you're unsuitable to discuss Irish music or is that just me?
Heh, I remember playing at a festival ages ago as a storm blew in. The audience ran for cover, all except one well lubricated gent sitting in the front row. When the rain really started pounding, he stood, slipped on the wet wooden dance floor, and fell hard. Still had a good swallow of booze in his cup as he got back up though....
Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
Just wondering if this is the traditional style in Ireland or is this just a regional variation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=net9KRP8zz8
Jewels of the Ocean by Allan MacDonald
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by bogman
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
it is just somebody enjoying themselves in a harmless way.
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by Dick Miles
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Ah you're back. Piles or ignorant ramblings on the mustard board for another while then.
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by bogman
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piles OR ignorant rambling..... Freudian slip. I know which I'd prefer.
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by bogman
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
Is he dancing? Looks like he's trying to shake a wasp out of his ar se...
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by Dragut Reis
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Or maybe it's piles...
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by Dragut Reis
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Nice freestyle -
That's what I find about Drink -
''Off goes a head and , on on goes a Turnip '' - lol..
jim,,,
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by FIDDLE4
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His father often danced for me fifty years ago, nice to see that he passed on his talent.
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by Free Reed
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''Off goes a head and , on on goes a Turnip '' - love it and know it well
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by bogman
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
Do we think it is deliberate, per chance, that Mr Miles' latest nom de plume is a character who so epitomises the attribute of pretending to be what one is not?
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by ...
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
In the book, does he not regain his sanity in the end though?
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by bogman
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
I think you give too much credit...
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by Dragut Reis
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
The dance goes under many names, such as The Culchie's Canoodle, The Townland Strutters Ball, The Wellyboot Shuffle, The Down Fan's Lament, etc. It's more usually performed by uncles at weddings or any other commemoration.
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by MacCruiskeen
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
Incase anyone is having trouble following this, Dick Miles, the second poster in this discussion, was briefly calling himself Don Quixote. At the moment of wring this, he is calling himself "music reader". And for some inexplicable reason has copy pasted the info in my biog into his own. Is that flattery? I'm not sure.
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by ...
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
writing
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by ...
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
Curioser and curioser...
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by Dragut Reis
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
curiouser not curioser
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by Dick Miles
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
I see he's removed it again ...
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by ethical blend
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Maybe he had some other motive? Other than flattery?
And maybe he changed his name to not be Don Quixote after I pointed out that character's character attributes.
Curiouser and curiouser indeed. (I'm afraid I'm so much surprised, that for the moment, I quite forgot how to speak good English)
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by ...
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
But back to the original question......
......( forget Dick Miles or whoever )....
............I think he's just enjoying that they're playing the tune so slow he can get all the steps in.
And, so maybe he's drunk, well he's just enjoying himself without bothering anyone else.
What's wrong with that ?
I don't think it's clever or funny to take the p**s out of someone because they're drunk.
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by Guernsey Pete
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
Is that the Dick Miles who recorded an Album with Martin Carthy back in '84?......
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by Jimij
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
He is obviously making tentative and surreptitious essays at the Zeimbekiko, a stately solo dance for blokes that emerged in Greece some time between the world wars (as far as I'm aware).
It involves going round in circles, crouching, essaying great leaps, and other motions consonant with the dancer's state of mind and physical capabilities. These, in the golden age of Rebetika music, were often enough rendered quite unfathomable and fairly hair-raising by the quantities of hashish ingested by the dancer from the communal hookah or elsewhere.
A particular tour de force was lifting a table in one's teeth with one or more blokes upon it. To do this, one probably had to be out of one's head; to opt to sit or stand on the table, one fairly definitely had to be out of one's head. Or so I imagine. These things are outwith my personal experience. Meanwhile plates would be smashed in a frenzy at the dancer's feet, at any rate if he excelled. Mind, the plates had to be paid for, so this wasn't routine.
The idea of the Zeimbekiko becoming a mass clubland fashion - though its characteristics are not incompatible with this - is fairly horrific and not to be borne.
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by nicholas
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
Definitely inebriated, but not so much that he can't keep his drink from spilling! One can see much worse dancing on the average dance floor. Not everyone, of course, is motivated to dance alone in front of a crowd, even with liquid courage. And remember:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/dance-moves-that-make-men-attractive-to-women-14941891.html
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by oldstrings
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"And, so maybe he's drunk, well he's just enjoying himself without bothering anyone else" - well, it was supposed to be a light hearted thread but seeing as you want to get on your high horse, how the hell do you know? Not all drunks are harmless.
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by bogman
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this guy is harmless enough
.Iagree with Guernsey Pete, It is not clever or funny to take the p*ss out of someone when they are drunk.
I have read DonQuixote, I do have a sense of humour, which is precisely why I called myself Don Quixote.
I dont really know what the hell this thread is doing on an irish music forum.
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by Dick Miles
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
you know him? It's not you cause you've got a beard. Never mind this thread, what the hell are you doing on an Irish music forum. Off you go and do some practice. Try coming back it 20 odd years.
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by bogman
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
What do you find funny about putting up a picture like this?
your group The Peat Bog Faeries must regularly play in front of people who are p*ssed and stoned and who dance about in a drunken/stoned manner, they pay your wages
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_TdfGa8ALQ
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by Dick Miles
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
lol, what a muppet.
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by bogman
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
I have danced about like that many times in front of the Peatbogs and others (the second video - definitely not the first) and I can guarantee that I have never been p*ssed or stoned when doing it. Maybe some of them are but they are all having a good time as was the guy in the first video.
Perhaps some folk on here just need to lighten up and see the funny side.
Perhaps the guy in the first video was working on his audition for a remake of Scotch & Wry (3:02 onwards):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQPIoKFn2rE
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by No Cause For Alarm
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This is what he's doing on an Irish music forum:
http://www.youtube.com/user/dickmilesmusic#p/u/5/G5mgGvCkxe0
I'd like to see anyone try to dance to that. Drunk or sober.
# Posted on September 19th 2010 by ...
BoobTube?
The only thing worse than the rubbish on YouTube is the constantly posting of links to them.
# Posted on September 20th 2010 by Ben Steen
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I don't get it. Are you trying to simulate playing the concertina on a ship in a storm? Why all the rocking from side to side?
# Posted on September 20th 2010 by No Cause For Alarm
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
"I'd like to see anyone try to dance to that. Drunk or sober."
Even if you were sober when you started listening to it you'd be as p i ssed as a bilge rat by the end, and sea-sick to boot.
# Posted on September 20th 2010 by Steve Shaw
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Random, I agree. But "music reader"'s behaviour often requires a quick reminder of who he is - with all his constant name and profile changing etc. (And I make no appology to the people who sat and listened to all of it ... that's your own bloody fault)
# Posted on September 20th 2010 by ...
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Curiouser and curiouser...
# Posted on September 20th 2010 by AlBrown
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Good on him. I never comment on someone's dancing, for fear that my own may be commented upon without my knowledge...
# Posted on September 20th 2010 by Greg the Piano Tuner
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
Random, you don't have to watch the clips if you don't like them. Sorry for wasting the 10 seconds of your time in opening it, but hey, this is the internet so I'm sure it's not the only 10 seconds wasted today! This was supposed to be a light hearted Sunday morning clip. I'm sure many of us has had folk worse for wear dancing while we play and many of us have been that person
# Posted on September 20th 2010 by bogman
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
Llig, regarding "music reader"'s behaviour, I would imagine the folk here only see the half of it. Do you get hate mail from him too telling you you're unsuitable to discuss Irish music or is that just me?
# Posted on September 20th 2010 by bogman
Re: Dancing to a Scottish waltz in Ireland
Heh, I remember playing at a festival ages ago as a storm blew in. The audience ran for cover, all except one well lubricated gent sitting in the front row. When the rain really started pounding, he stood, slipped on the wet wooden dance floor, and fell hard. Still had a good swallow of booze in his cup as he got back up though....
# Posted on September 20th 2010 by Will Harmon
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Yep, crazy stuff from "music reader". But hey ho, that's mustard muppet land for you.
# Posted on September 20th 2010 by ...
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No bogman it isn't just you. The man is a highly unpleasant and ignorant bully.
# Posted on September 20th 2010 by Prof. Prlwytzkofski
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Hmm - he has not sent me a message yet. I wonder what I am doing wrong.
# Posted on September 20th 2010 by No Cause For Alarm
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If let go of your anger you do not, to the dark side you will turn....
# Posted on September 21st 2010 by AlBrown
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Fear Al. Fear it is that leads to anger
# Posted on September 21st 2010 by ...
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I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
Oops, sorry, I'm quoting the wrong Sci-Fi movie.
# Posted on September 21st 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
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Movie? None of the movie versions of that one ever lived up to the book. Heck, none of the sequels ever lived up to the original book...
# Posted on September 22nd 2010 by AlBrown