Which of the following flutes would you recommend me to start with playing Irish Flute?
I have just read a lot about them, but at the moment I am not able to make my decision...
By the way, I like to play Low Whistle (just learning-by-doing), and now I want to get an inexpensive flute...A few weeks ago, I tried to play the cheap Dixon one-piece Low D, but I didn't like it very much.
I short-list these three flutes:
1) Tipple Low D (with Fajardo-Wedge? 2- oder 3-piece?)
2) Hamilton practice flute
3) 3-piece Low D from Dixon
I am looking for an easy-playing flute with the "typical Irish Sound" that should be powerful!
Thank you for your advices!
But what about the Tipple?
I have read so much good stuff about this flute...
And Mr. Tipple sends great answers to eMail requests...
Nobody here who would prefer THIS flute? Instead of the Hamilton?
I have a Tipple as a "beach flute" (some say "hiking flute"). It's huge fun, loud, great value and Doug is good to deal with. But it's not a lot like a "real" flute.
I also had a chance to try some Dixons, and bought one. Most of them were deeply uninspiring (in the few minutes I had available) but the one with the *lip plate* (like Doug also does) responded well. I took it away and fitted a wedge similar to Doug's Fajardo wedge - I made it out of some *very* heavy bamboo. I find it responds more like a real flute than the Tipple, though it's not the same. I now prefer it to the Tipple.
If you go for either of these, the number of pieces is not very important, but you really really should get one *with the lip plate*, and you really should use a wedge, either supplied or home-made.
If I remember rightly, then the two piece and the three piece Dixon flutes are very different beasts. The three piece one being of a conical bore like a proper flute.
I don't own one, nor have I played one for more than 20 seconds or so, so YMMV.
For an inexpensive practice flute (or "kayaking flute" that still gets a fair bit of sound I would toss in the suggestion of a Forbes flute. They're delrin-polymer, keyless, and quite affordable. I've played one myself for the past two years and have been very happy with it. www.forbesflutes.com.
Out of curiosity, why are you trying to start playing on a junk flute anyway? You should have titled your thread "looking for a super-cheap flute" as beginners do better on a wooden, conical bore flute just like anyone else.
Those whining about the Tipple flutes should remember you are comparing a $60.00 (US) flute with some that cost $400.00 or more. I'm a crummy flutist, but can play the Tipple and keep it in tune on slow stuff. I had several much more expensive flutes that I can't say that about. But then, I'm a crummy flutist. If you go with the Tipple do get the wedge it makes a huge difference.
...................."Junk Flute " ...................
I'm sure Doug Tipple would be impressed (not) by your pathetic comment elaine t ...
Have you ever played one ?
I've heard one, & I cannot remember if I have asked to play it. However, when I have heard it played, along with other flutes, it is usually the one I notice. Unfortunately, not because of how wonderful it sounds. Aside from the sound, it is may be worth the price, to some. To be fair there are much worse flutes with higher prices.
I should follow through. Tim will probably read this. To his credit he plays the Tipple as well as anyone & his playing, on the Tipple, is better than when he first bought the Tipple. Two other flute players, in our session, have said they are not overly fond of hearing the flute. No dreadful indictment, just the typical lacking in certain flutes; issues with intonation & not a strong barking low d note. I will ask to play it, now that it has come up.
I have read through Doug Tipple's website & was impressed. But, I'll have to read it again, because apparently he has the option of buying a flute without the wedge. I thought that was the reason for buying a Tipple. Anyway, bottomline is if you like the Tipple play the Tipple. I will be grateful when Tim decides to buy a better flute. BTW he mostly plays box.
You may have noticed I am in the process of buying a Hammy Hamilton practice flute. I'm fairly confident the practice flute Hammy is currently making is the best one in this very low price range. In the future I will buy a better flute. I'll cut my teeth on the practice flute. Until now I have played silver flutes (I have 3) & delrin & wooden flutes which others have been kind enough to loan. If I were to buy a wooden flute today I would most likely choose one by Hammy Hamilton. But that's a different subject.
Perhaps "junk" should be reserved for the eBay Pakistani flutes, although I usually just call those firewood. I've played Tipple, Dixon, and Hammy practice flutes, more than one of each.
The reason to start on the Hammy if you must go cheap is because you're getting a flute with an embouchure cut by a master flute maker. The biggest problem beginners have is embouchure and tone, and starting on a poor quality flute "practice" flute only exacerbates the problems. The Hammy sounds a little drainpipish and it's certainly nothing you'd take to a session but if you are blowing correctly, it has a cracking bottom D.
I've taught a few beginners, and none who were on "practice" flutes progressed fast. I had one student who went and bought a 6-key GLP McGee when she decided to switch from whistle. She had a decent tone within months, as the flute was very responsive and ridiculously easy to blow. I'm not saying beginners should all go off and drop $3K on a flute, but the difference between her and my other student struggling on a Tipple was striking. He did much better when I bought a Hammy practice flute to try and lent it to him.
Oh, and I'm indifferent about the 3-piece Dixon. It's playable but not a very satisfying instrument. It's probably more sessionable than the Hammy as the intonation is less problematic, but I don't remember a very satisfying hard D.
Ok: "and you really should use a wedge" when buying a Tipple flute.
But the Hamilton don't have such a wedge - not necessary here, but necessary for Tipple?
Why?
And why is the flute (bith Hamilton AND Tipple?) nothing one would take to a session?
What does "drainpipish" mean?
What do you mean when concerning a "problematic intonation" (both Hamilton AND Tipple?)?
imo (and echoing previus posts) if you can scrape the cash together, get the best flute you can afford. sell something. first, you'll improve much faster when you're not fighting with your instrument. second, if it is a quality instrument and you decide that you really don't like playing irish flute (highly unlikely!) quality flutes keep their value. sell it for less what you would have paid for the junk instrument and be out no more than the price of the junker.
fwiw, check out skiphealy.com and take a look at the two peice flute in D. it is a fantastic, sturdy, precision engineered flute, that is very loud. minimal wait time (if any...) i love my healy flute and i am extremely glad i saved my pennies and sold stuff and bought that first instrument.
Give it a rest will yers .......
The term 'Junk Flute' is highly offensive... And I'm not even the maker of the said Flutes....
I have a Tipple as well as a Terry McGee wooden Flute...
Second hand Tipples come and go on the ChiffandFipple web site all the time (for about $50.00 or so) and I've never heard a bad word about them...
I really like my Tipple and it's a great entry level Flute..
Not junk..........................so there,phooey on youee !!
If you are cash-strapped, Tipple or Hamilton. But if there's any way you can afford it, a 3-piece wood or Delrin Copley, the aforementioned Rob Forbes flute, or a Casey Burns Folk Flute will be more satisfying over the long run--because they're the real deal.
"Chuck, if you're going to argue the case for Doug's flutes start by being assertive. No offense, but that was wishy-washy at best. "
Ouch! Slag one...
OK, How about this: I doubt that you will find a better flute for the cost than the Tipple. They play easily, and in my experience are quite well in tune. More money will buy a better flute, but at that price level there is nothing else comparable.
BTW, I'm not arguing the Tipple is better than the Hamilton (which I have not tried); merely that it is an extremely inexpensive starting point. It probably won't honk on the lo D like a fine instrument, and it doubtless has other limitations. But it is a decent starting point for minimal money.
I did play the Tipple last night. It was after we finished playing for the night. I realized Tim was going to be packing it up soon. People were talking so I didn't really play too far up the 2nd octave.
First off it's not a junk flute. That is to say I have played a numer of wooden flutes which do not sound as good as the Tipple although those wooden flutes would sell for a few hundred dollars. Having said, that I think the Delrin flutes I have played are more responsive than the Tipple. I have played M&E & Seery flutes, but it has been a number of years. I haven't played a Forbes flute.
Back to the Tipple. The embochure is very easy to sound, but I couldn't change the tone as much I'd like when I roll the flute a bit to hit different angles. If that makes sense, it's something I'm hoping will work better for me with the embochure hole of the practice flute. The other thing is the low d note does not have a bark. This may seem like a minor thing, but when can get that bark it can be the raison d'être.
Your impressions match what I was trying to say. No "honk" (or "bark" if you prefer that) and a bit inflexible in tone colors but easy to play and quite well in tune. I think the lack of flexibility may be helpful since about all you can get is an in tune note. But, when you graduate to a better instrument you'll have quite a bit more to learn to do.
Perhaps I wasn't clear. I have played silver flute for a number of years but choose not to play one in session. As far as having quite a bit more to learn to do on a wooden flute I'm not sure what you mean. I have played wooden flutes which play wonderfully, they are very responsive. About 10 years back, I purchased a Sweetheart G fife. On the day I bought the fife I also played a number of flutes (In a Mendocino music store). One of those flutes played, & sounded, better than any open-holed flute I had played before. There is no comparison between that flute & the G fife, much less a Tipple or a Hammy practice flute. However, I bought the Sweetheart because I like it well enough & I had the money for a fife. I did not have the money for the better flute. I have no doubt, if I was able to afford it at the time, it would have taught me well.
Frankly, I think Elaine describes very well the benefits of playing a well made wooden flute, in her reference to the stundent who bought one of Terry McGee's;
I think we're talking past each other. I was referring to starting on a Tipple as opposed to any more flexible instrument. The Tipple is sort of automatic, at least to me. But, it doesn't seem to allow, as you pointed out, the bark on the low tone and the ability to change the tone color. When you get to some other flute that does allow that, any other flute, you may find embouchure and other issues becoming more important.
I think we're in agreement in general... Probably time to quit trying to be fussy about the details (and that's not a slam at you at all).
A few days ago I tried the Hamilton, but I am disappointed: My cheap Dixon one-piece Low D have a more "full" and "broad" sound that sounds more "Irish" in my opinion...
What do YOU think about the cheap Dixon one-piece Low D considering it to the Hamilton?
The Hammy seems to sound quietly, a little bit "boring", and without any "honk" - which I like at my Dixon one-piece, but the Dixon is more difficult to play I think...
Hmm, when I like the SOUND of the Dixon (warm, "rough", sometimes like a "honk of a big ship"), maybe the Tipple would be the better choice?
Or the 3-piece Low D from Dixon? What about THIS one comparing it to the Hamilton concerning the sound?
Hmm, the Hamilton is not a cylindrical flute but a flute with a tapered bore, isn't it?
So what about the Tipple Wedge?
And what about the 3-piece Low-D from Dixon - would it be a worse choice comparing it to the Tipple?
Ah, ok...
Could anyone compare the sound of the Dixon 3-piece to the Sound of Hamilton & Tipple?
As already mentioned, I would describe my old Dixon 1-piece as "warm", "rough", sometimes like a "honk of a big ship"...
Sorry for my many requests...
Though this thread is many weeks old, I was not dealing with selecting a flute every day because of my job...
But NOW I am sure about it:
I will order a Tipple 3-piece, 6-hole low D flute with a lip plate headjoint and 2-semicircles oval embouchure hole + preinstalled (already fixed) Tipple-Fajardo wedge in a few days!!! I will present myself with it on Christmas...
Unfortunately, the shipping conditions from Doug to Europe/Germany are so expensive I think...
Hmm, concerning the Tipple 3-piece, 6-hole low D flute with a lip plate headjoint and 2-semicircles oval embouchure hole + Tipple-Fajardo wedge, I am indetermined concerning the finger holes: Should I prefer inline or offset finger holes? Which is standard practice e. g. considering good wooden flutes?
Looking for a beginner flute
Looking for a beginner flute
Hi!
Which of the following flutes would you recommend me to start with playing Irish Flute?
I have just read a lot about them, but at the moment I am not able to make my decision...
By the way, I like to play Low Whistle (just learning-by-doing), and now I want to get an inexpensive flute...A few weeks ago, I tried to play the cheap Dixon one-piece Low D, but I didn't like it very much.
I short-list these three flutes:
1) Tipple Low D (with Fajardo-Wedge? 2- oder 3-piece?)
2) Hamilton practice flute
3) 3-piece Low D from Dixon
I am looking for an easy-playing flute with the "typical Irish Sound" that should be powerful!
Thank you!
Michael
# Posted on September 10th 2010 by doktor73
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
The Hamilton.
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/23846/comments#comment536939
# Posted on September 10th 2010 by Toppish
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
"The Hamilton"
I second that.
Allan
# Posted on September 11th 2010 by jigtime
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Thirded. Definitely the Hammy of those three.
By the way, you won't get a powerful "typical Irish sound" out of any of that lot but you will get started.
# Posted on September 11th 2010 by ElaineT
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Thank you for your advices!
But what about the Tipple?
I have read so much good stuff about this flute...
And Mr. Tipple sends great answers to eMail requests...
Nobody here who would prefer THIS flute? Instead of the Hamilton?
Michael
# Posted on September 11th 2010 by doktor73
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
The Tipple Flutes are good..
Good value for money...
Good sound for a plastic Flute..
Doug Tipple is a good bloke....
# Posted on September 11th 2010 by zoukboy
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
I have a Tipple as a "beach flute" (some say "hiking flute"). It's huge fun, loud, great value and Doug is good to deal with. But it's not a lot like a "real" flute.
I also had a chance to try some Dixons, and bought one. Most of them were deeply uninspiring (in the few minutes I had available) but the one with the *lip plate* (like Doug also does) responded well. I took it away and fitted a wedge similar to Doug's Fajardo wedge - I made it out of some *very* heavy bamboo. I find it responds more like a real flute than the Tipple, though it's not the same. I now prefer it to the Tipple.
If you go for either of these, the number of pieces is not very important, but you really really should get one *with the lip plate*, and you really should use a wedge, either supplied or home-made.
# Posted on September 11th 2010 by Alex Wilding
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
If I remember rightly, then the two piece and the three piece Dixon flutes are very different beasts. The three piece one being of a conical bore like a proper flute.
I don't own one, nor have I played one for more than 20 seconds or so, so YMMV.
# Posted on September 11th 2010 by Crackpot
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
For an inexpensive practice flute (or "kayaking flute"
that still gets a fair bit of sound I would toss in the suggestion of a Forbes flute. They're delrin-polymer, keyless, and quite affordable. I've played one myself for the past two years and have been very happy with it. www.forbesflutes.com.
# Posted on September 11th 2010 by ingridrt
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Out of curiosity, why are you trying to start playing on a junk flute anyway? You should have titled your thread "looking for a super-cheap flute" as beginners do better on a wooden, conical bore flute just like anyone else.
# Posted on September 11th 2010 by ElaineT
Looking for super cheap flute
Just out of curiousity, what is wrong with the practice flute, Elaine?
# Posted on September 11th 2010 by Ben Steen
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Those whining about the Tipple flutes should remember you are comparing a $60.00 (US) flute with some that cost $400.00 or more. I'm a crummy flutist, but can play the Tipple and keep it in tune on slow stuff. I had several much more expensive flutes that I can't say that about. But then, I'm a crummy flutist. If you go with the Tipple do get the wedge it makes a huge difference.
# Posted on September 12th 2010 by cboody
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Chuck, if you're going to argue the case for Doug's flutes start by being assertive. No offense, but that was wishy-washy at best.
# Posted on September 12th 2010 by Ben Steen
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
...................."Junk Flute " ...................
I'm sure Doug Tipple would be impressed (not) by your pathetic comment elaine t ...
Have you ever played one ?
# Posted on September 12th 2010 by zoukboy
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
I've heard one, & I cannot remember if I have asked to play it. However, when I have heard it played, along with other flutes, it is usually the one I notice. Unfortunately, not because of how wonderful it sounds. Aside from the sound, it is may be worth the price, to some. To be fair there are much worse flutes with higher prices.
# Posted on September 12th 2010 by Ben Steen
...
I should follow through. Tim will probably read this. To his credit he plays the Tipple as well as anyone & his playing, on the Tipple, is better than when he first bought the Tipple. Two other flute players, in our session, have said they are not overly fond of hearing the flute. No dreadful indictment, just the typical lacking in certain flutes; issues with intonation & not a strong barking low d note. I will ask to play it, now that it has come up.
I have read through Doug Tipple's website & was impressed. But, I'll have to read it again, because apparently he has the option of buying a flute without the wedge. I thought that was the reason for buying a Tipple. Anyway, bottomline is if you like the Tipple play the Tipple. I will be grateful when Tim decides to buy a better flute. BTW he mostly plays box.
You may have noticed I am in the process of buying a Hammy Hamilton practice flute. I'm fairly confident the practice flute Hammy is currently making is the best one in this very low price range. In the future I will buy a better flute. I'll cut my teeth on the practice flute. Until now I have played silver flutes (I have 3) & delrin & wooden flutes which others have been kind enough to loan. If I were to buy a wooden flute today I would most likely choose one by Hammy Hamilton. But that's a different subject.
# Posted on September 12th 2010 by Ben Steen
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Perhaps "junk" should be reserved for the eBay Pakistani flutes, although I usually just call those firewood. I've played Tipple, Dixon, and Hammy practice flutes, more than one of each.
The reason to start on the Hammy if you must go cheap is because you're getting a flute with an embouchure cut by a master flute maker. The biggest problem beginners have is embouchure and tone, and starting on a poor quality flute "practice" flute only exacerbates the problems. The Hammy sounds a little drainpipish and it's certainly nothing you'd take to a session but if you are blowing correctly, it has a cracking bottom D.
I've taught a few beginners, and none who were on "practice" flutes progressed fast. I had one student who went and bought a 6-key GLP McGee when she decided to switch from whistle. She had a decent tone within months, as the flute was very responsive and ridiculously easy to blow. I'm not saying beginners should all go off and drop $3K on a flute, but the difference between her and my other student struggling on a Tipple was striking. He did much better when I bought a Hammy practice flute to try and lent it to him.
# Posted on September 12th 2010 by ElaineT
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Oh, and I'm indifferent about the 3-piece Dixon. It's playable but not a very satisfying instrument. It's probably more sessionable than the Hammy as the intonation is less problematic, but I don't remember a very satisfying hard D.
# Posted on September 12th 2010 by ElaineT
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Hello!
Ok: "and you really should use a wedge" when buying a Tipple flute.
But the Hamilton don't have such a wedge - not necessary here, but necessary for Tipple?
Why?
And why is the flute (bith Hamilton AND Tipple?) nothing one would take to a session?
What does "drainpipish" mean?
What do you mean when concerning a "problematic intonation" (both Hamilton AND Tipple?)?
Micha
# Posted on September 12th 2010 by doktor73
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Comparing
1) Hamilton practice flute
to
2) Tipple
- what is better at Hamilton, what is better at Tipple???
# Posted on September 12th 2010 by doktor73
Practice flute
response from Hammy Hamilton;
Re: Practice flute ~ Sun Jan 24, 2010
http://forums.chiffandfipple.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=73679&p=949907#p949907
# Posted on September 12th 2010 by Ben Steen
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
imo (and echoing previus posts) if you can scrape the cash together, get the best flute you can afford. sell something. first, you'll improve much faster when you're not fighting with your instrument. second, if it is a quality instrument and you decide that you really don't like playing irish flute (highly unlikely!) quality flutes keep their value. sell it for less what you would have paid for the junk instrument and be out no more than the price of the junker.
fwiw, check out skiphealy.com and take a look at the two peice flute in D. it is a fantastic, sturdy, precision engineered flute, that is very loud. minimal wait time (if any...) i love my healy flute and i am extremely glad i saved my pennies and sold stuff and bought that first instrument.
# Posted on September 13th 2010 by iamchris
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Give it a rest will yers .......
The term 'Junk Flute' is highly offensive... And I'm not even the maker of the said Flutes....
I have a Tipple as well as a Terry McGee wooden Flute...
Second hand Tipples come and go on the ChiffandFipple web site all the time (for about $50.00 or so) and I've never heard a bad word about them...
I really like my Tipple and it's a great entry level Flute..
Not junk..........................so there,phooey on youee !!
# Posted on September 13th 2010 by zoukboy
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
If you are cash-strapped, Tipple or Hamilton. But if there's any way you can afford it, a 3-piece wood or Delrin Copley, the aforementioned Rob Forbes flute, or a Casey Burns Folk Flute will be more satisfying over the long run--because they're the real deal.
http://copleyflutes.com/catalog.html
http://forbesflutes.com/
http://caseyburnsflutes.com/ff.php
# Posted on September 13th 2010 by mcswiss
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
"Chuck, if you're going to argue the case for Doug's flutes start by being assertive. No offense, but that was wishy-washy at best.
"
Ouch! Slag one...
OK, How about this: I doubt that you will find a better flute for the cost than the Tipple. They play easily, and in my experience are quite well in tune. More money will buy a better flute, but at that price level there is nothing else comparable.
# Posted on September 14th 2010 by cboody
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
BTW, I'm not arguing the Tipple is better than the Hamilton (which I have not tried); merely that it is an extremely inexpensive starting point. It probably won't honk on the lo D like a fine instrument, and it doubtless has other limitations. But it is a decent starting point for minimal money.
# Posted on September 14th 2010 by cboody
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Hi!
Ok, thank you very much!
I think my first flute will be the Hamilton practice flute...
Michael
# Posted on September 14th 2010 by doktor73
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
I did play the Tipple last night. It was after we finished playing for the night. I realized Tim was going to be packing it up soon. People were talking so I didn't really play too far up the 2nd octave.
First off it's not a junk flute. That is to say I have played a numer of wooden flutes which do not sound as good as the Tipple although those wooden flutes would sell for a few hundred dollars. Having said, that I think the Delrin flutes I have played are more responsive than the Tipple. I have played M&E & Seery flutes, but it has been a number of years. I haven't played a Forbes flute.
Back to the Tipple. The embochure is very easy to sound, but I couldn't change the tone as much I'd like when I roll the flute a bit to hit different angles. If that makes sense, it's something I'm hoping will work better for me with the embochure hole of the practice flute. The other thing is the low d note does not have a bark. This may seem like a minor thing, but when can get that bark it can be the raison d'être.
# Posted on September 15th 2010 by Ben Steen
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Your impressions match what I was trying to say. No "honk" (or "bark" if you prefer that) and a bit inflexible in tone colors but easy to play and quite well in tune. I think the lack of flexibility may be helpful since about all you can get is an in tune note. But, when you graduate to a better instrument you'll have quite a bit more to learn to do.
# Posted on September 16th 2010 by cboody
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Perhaps I wasn't clear. I have played silver flute for a number of years but choose not to play one in session. As far as having quite a bit more to learn to do on a wooden flute I'm not sure what you mean. I have played wooden flutes which play wonderfully, they are very responsive. About 10 years back, I purchased a Sweetheart G fife. On the day I bought the fife I also played a number of flutes (In a Mendocino music store). One of those flutes played, & sounded, better than any open-holed flute I had played before. There is no comparison between that flute & the G fife, much less a Tipple or a Hammy practice flute. However, I bought the Sweetheart because I like it well enough & I had the money for a fife. I did not have the money for the better flute. I have no doubt, if I was able to afford it at the time, it would have taught me well.
Frankly, I think Elaine describes very well the benefits of playing a well made wooden flute, in her reference to the stundent who bought one of Terry McGee's;
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/25516/comments#comment537063
# Posted on September 16th 2010 by Ben Steen
Stunned me too
stundent (oops) = student
# Posted on September 16th 2010 by Ben Steen
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
I think we're talking past each other. I was referring to starting on a Tipple as opposed to any more flexible instrument. The Tipple is sort of automatic, at least to me. But, it doesn't seem to allow, as you pointed out, the bark on the low tone and the ability to change the tone color. When you get to some other flute that does allow that, any other flute, you may find embouchure and other issues becoming more important.
I think we're in agreement in general... Probably time to quit trying to be fussy about the details (and that's not a slam at you at all).
# Posted on September 17th 2010 by cboody
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Chuck, I understand what you're saying about the Tipple. ;)
# Posted on September 17th 2010 by Ben Steen
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Hi!
A few days ago I tried the Hamilton, but I am disappointed: My cheap Dixon one-piece Low D have a more "full" and "broad" sound that sounds more "Irish" in my opinion...
What do YOU think about the cheap Dixon one-piece Low D considering it to the Hamilton?
The Hammy seems to sound quietly, a little bit "boring", and without any "honk" - which I like at my Dixon one-piece, but the Dixon is more difficult to play I think...
Hmm, when I like the SOUND of the Dixon (warm, "rough", sometimes like a "honk of a big ship"), maybe the Tipple would be the better choice?
Or the 3-piece Low D from Dixon? What about THIS one comparing it to the Hamilton concerning the sound?
# Posted on November 11th 2010 by doktor73
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
My practice flute has a decent bark on the low note & I wouldn't consider it quiet.
# Posted on November 11th 2010 by Ben Steen
If the Dixon works for you ~ play the Dixon & sell the Hamilton.
# Posted on November 11th 2010 by Ben Steen
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Hmm, the Hamilton is not a cylindrical flute but a flute with a tapered bore, isn't it?
So what about the Tipple Wedge?
And what about the 3-piece Low-D from Dixon - would it be a worse choice comparing it to the Tipple?
# Posted on November 11th 2010 by doktor73
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
The practice flute is tapered in the Delrin head. The body is cylindrical.
# Posted on November 11th 2010 by Ben Steen
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Ah, ok...
Could anyone compare the sound of the Dixon 3-piece to the Sound of Hamilton & Tipple?
As already mentioned, I would describe my old Dixon 1-piece as "warm", "rough", sometimes like a "honk of a big ship"...
# Posted on November 12th 2010 by doktor73
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Sorry for my many requests...
Though this thread is many weeks old, I was not dealing with selecting a flute every day because of my job...
But NOW I am sure about it:
I will order a Tipple 3-piece, 6-hole low D flute with a lip plate headjoint and 2-semicircles oval embouchure hole + preinstalled (already fixed) Tipple-Fajardo wedge in a few days!!! I will present myself with it on Christmas...
Unfortunately, the shipping conditions from Doug to Europe/Germany are so expensive I think...
# Posted on November 17th 2010 by doktor73
Re: Looking for a beginner flute
Hi!
Hmm, concerning the Tipple 3-piece, 6-hole low D flute with a lip plate headjoint and 2-semicircles oval embouchure hole + Tipple-Fajardo wedge, I am indetermined concerning the finger holes: Should I prefer inline or offset finger holes? Which is standard practice e. g. considering good wooden flutes?
HERE the flute does NOT have offset holes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCLpOk4Aaas&feature=related
And which kind of holes does Ben use?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvAPt6V3GDY
Michael
# Posted on November 20th 2010 by doktor73