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Some - real irish music style's...

Hope you don't mind me Name Dropping -- But I just wanted to show some Learner's at ITM -- What I consider to be Real Irish music styles - well some of them. Before it get's Lost !

jim,,,

SOME - REAL IRISH MUSIC STYLE'S...

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This is example's of what I consider to be = '' REAL '' - IRISH MUSIC STYLE'S...

Running the Phrase's - like speaking or Poetry,, Nice Swing Timing... and Tempo's.
Not like an Express train -- { Don't Blink or you'll miss it } - And not overdone like some
sort of Firework's Display...

I learned Much listening to these folk's here -- Most I have Met -- On my Travel's - lol...

jim,,,

Angelina Carberry and Martin Quinn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9TNYVnQKrE

Fred Finn & Peter Horan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0CTHmQ2Jus&p=3C8C54CDFCD3620E&playnext=1&index=39

Patsy Hanley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwZ9dFUSDCs

Charlie Lennon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anjF_tjU-A4

Brian, Ben Lennon
{ Charlie Lennon's Older Brother Ben when I met him at a fleadh once I was totaly Fasinated }
(Flute player is Ben's youngest Son...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwkOE2ztIcY

Brian Rooney

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_1HYTDu1ik

Tommy Peoples

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHqFlS3gNMs&p=8B72F5C531B4A7F4&playnext=1&index=72

Gerry O'Connor - Fiddle,and Eilish O'Connor { Brother and Sister }

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD1eqDIQvz8

'' Paddy Canny '' & Frankie Gavin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBONRwNY77c&p=BC0A5468B6CA5183&playnext=1&index=44

Altan & '' Francie Mooney ''
Francie told and taught me Much - RIP }

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN4W2NPKeng

# Posted on August 19th 2010 by FIDDLE4

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Hi Jim, thanks as always for your knowledge. Timely too, as the thread on variation and ornament needed some examples:

http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/25338

I'll just do my Mr. C impression and link the two threads together here.

# Posted on August 19th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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HI Jim

Thanks for all this. I hope you don't mind if I add a link of my own:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga4qocQkH0A

I think this is such a great example of two generations of fiddlers. Each of them plays a little bit differently from the other but together they make a gorgeous sound.

# Posted on August 19th 2010 by John Culhane

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Don't have the time to listen to all these clips now, but this is definitely a thread I will come back to. Thanks for posting the links, Jim!!!

# Posted on August 19th 2010 by AlBrown

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tacoman --
I don't mind at all,, And what I link, how could I miss out on that family -- '' I hang my head in shame '' - lol..
jim,,,

# Posted on August 19th 2010 by FIDDLE4

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No shame, Jim. It's really a challenge to keep up with all the music that's available now, isn't it? Youtube is amazing for the way it connects us to a lot of the music from the past.

John

# Posted on August 19th 2010 by John Culhane

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The clip of Angelina and Martin was made at a concert at my house. Thanks for posting.

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by GaryAMartin

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Lovely music Jim. all of it. Thanks.

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by big_tab

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GaryAMartin -

Lucky You !!!

Two mighty player's - jim,,,

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by FIDDLE4

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Thanks, Jim. Brilliant stuff.

Loved Brian Rooney, what was the tune?

Thanks.

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by Piece

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Well the first He call's it The Godfather on a great CD,,,
he made,,,

But I've heard from a musician and good source --

It was composed by Maurice Lennon - and is called -

'' The Road to Garrison '' See Link -

http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/2698

jim,,,

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by FIDDLE4

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takes you there those shtyles!! ;-)
Lovely.
That clip by O'Connors is a cracker isn't it!

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh

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Thanks for posting. Good stuff there

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by AineM

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You forgot Martin Hayes. Superb music, that gets to the edge of Zen.

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by zippydw

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Here's another - the boy Tansey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTo5Ae7Vz3c

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by MacCruiskeen

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Yeaaay! Tansey..None of your wimpey stuff there. Thanks Mac.

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by big_tab

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Here's another non-wimpy one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUv3SL3Cio4.

big_tab, don't call me 'Mac', please, and 'Wimpey' is a UK construction company for whom many Irish lads laboured;

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by MacCruiskeen

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MacCruiskeen, even if you are a grumpy oul bollix you have top taste in music :-) James Byrne besides being a grand ,honest fiddler was a grand, honest, friendly ,welcoming , decent man. Keep them coming!

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by big_tab

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Jackie Daly and Seamus Creagh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70SvnrzLQOI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upEilWXAJn4

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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Nnnyyyaaaa....

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by Johnny Jay

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A way too short clip of the great Denis Murphy & Julia Clifford, with Des Mulkere and a very young Paddy Maloney:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbfGQ4glQ1s

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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Finally, is any thread on style complete without Joe Cooley?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGzJdoMeoQY

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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Or even Paddy Moloney!

Here's another - http://www.greece.onlinefilm.org/el_GR/film/29451.

big_tab, did you ever meet James Byrne?

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by MacCruiskeen

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That was a nice one, MacCruiskeen. Such a pleasure to see and hear Packie and Micho Russell, and a tantalysing glimpse of Willie Clancy.

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by murfbox

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MacCruiskeen,I would never describe someone I had never met in the way I described J B above.

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by big_tab

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So that means 'no' then, big_tab!

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by MacCruiskeen

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You might be good at the spelling but your power of deduction is dodgy!

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by big_tab

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So, did you ever meet James Byrne, big_tab?

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by MacCruiskeen

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I would say I have answered that but I am surprised why anything I have done would warrant the same question 3 times . maybe you are a schoolteacher or a garda that is used to getting the answer you want :-) .

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by big_tab

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No, you haven't answered my question, big_tab, and seem to be avoiding it via aspersions.

For the record, over the years I met James Byrne on numerous occasions, including: 1) in Johnny Joe's in Kilcar; 2) in Roarty's in Glemcolmcille; 3) in The Highlands Hotel in Glenties; 4) in The Camden Irish Centre; and 5) in his own kitchen in Meeanacross.

That's not boasting, just fact. I agree with your sentiments about the man, but you've steadfastly refused to admit where you met him!

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by MacCruiskeen

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Ah relax! I'm delighted you met him. He was worth meeting. I have no interest in talking about who or who I didnt meet. He had a nice kitchen though..

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by big_tab

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'Nice kitchen though'. So you never met actually met him!

I suspect the only reason you're unwilling to answer a direct question is because you're a fraud.

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by MacCruiskeen

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I'M a fraud. I just want to chat about music.I' ve never met anybody famous. It must be amazing to know all these people.

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by big_tab

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Actually MacCruiskeen, I am a little annoyed. All I did was say nice things about a very nice man and an interesting fiddler James Byrne . You have made it into some schoolyard competition.

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by big_tab

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Good, you're a fraud, so that's settled.

Be fraudlent around this one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArenJmWibDM.

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by MacCruiskeen

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Or even 'fraudulent'!

And, you've done it again, big_tab. You're incapable of answering a direct question because, I suspect, you know exactly what your direct answer would reveal.

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by MacCruiskeen

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Ah Jimmy! One of my very best friends . I used his toilet twice. I think I had a pee but I am not certain. :-)

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by big_tab

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Back to the point of this otherwise excellent thread... some Michael Coleman, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BZAkjqK8AM

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by John Galt

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Martin Hayes. Is as you say, Superb music -- zippydw
Just I was not really thinking about the younger that me one's - lol..
Just Older --- Like this Guy --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyM4ow-JahA

jim,,,

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by FIDDLE4

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Yes also about Tansey --- I saw him play in a session in Rosscommon once - Local's where saying '' He could knock the plaster of the Wall's '' -- lol,,, And I could beleave it !

But then you would have to mention this man -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxh75BtUI5Q

jim,,,

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by FIDDLE4

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And I would not feel at all right
if I did not add these two,,,
jim,,,

Vincent Griffin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C32khRMlUGU

Andy McGann

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2bYttPe46k

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by FIDDLE4

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What a great thread, I’ve been hoping for a *how it should be done*thread like this for ages. It is a difficult thing to ask for - just has to happen I suppose. Great stuff, thanks to all.

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by Eòsaph

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"knock the plaster of the walls"

HA! What a great phrase.

More Jim, MORE! ;-)

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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Jim, you like them old ones you say? How about Mr. Mike Rafferty?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Nw4Mr8bzA

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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Well This is my last one -- I'am sure I've forgot many, but I leave that up to you's guy's.. with this last choice -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWQ98jxKo5A&p=D29054D966F86086&playnext=1&index=23

jim,,,

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by FIDDLE4

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SWFL Fiddler

Now here's a guy I don't know -- But Mr. Mike Rafferty - Look's and Sound's like '' The Pure Drop '' that's for sure.

jim,,,

# Posted on August 20th 2010 by FIDDLE4

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Fiddle4, to you I give thanks, respect and admiration for posting such a treasure. :-D

# Posted on August 21st 2010 by Gone to work

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Love me some Paddy Cronin. They interview him a bunch in my favorite book, check out the young fella here:

http://tinyurl.com/youngpaddycronininboston

He's an honorary Yank like Mr. Rafferty there. ;-)

More of him below, fresh and recent too from the Catskills Irish Arts Week. Looks like a familiar name to the mustard board took this video, thanks Gary!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0InM4J8jrow

# Posted on August 21st 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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Cronin's insights on O'Keefe are fantastic in Jim's last link there. starts around the 2:15 mark.

"For anyone who played the same thing over and again he [O'Keefe] 'was like a separator', he said. [laughs] He taught us to change it around, of course, and he was right."

# Posted on August 21st 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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Mike Rafferty and Paddy Cronin besides being such a pleasure to listen to, as they both have a way of playing the tune and making it sound as if we could all play that way,are possibly the very last of their generation of players.Interesting that Paddy Cronin seems to enjoy playing reels and jigs more than polkas and slides. It also seems to me,and I wonder what swfl fiddler thinks of this, that he has completely changed his style over the sixty years we have access to his recordings.

# Posted on August 21st 2010 by big_tab

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SWFL Fiddler-
Loved that link you put in there of '' Auld Paddy Cronin ''
As he was called at the Fleadh's in my time,, See he was once young too,
And not so '' Spud Faced '' either - lol...

And I totaly enjoyed that video of '' Catskills Irish Arts Week ''
A lovely smooth pace, and still with such a lovely wee lilt in it...
'' First Class '' -

jim,,,

# Posted on August 21st 2010 by FIDDLE4

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Tabber, I'm sure he has. A great example of what a living tradition is, and staying true to his teacher O'Keeffe as well!

Jim, there's one more photo of 'young' Paddy Cronin in the book there, from an American TV program:

http://tinyurl.com/paddycroninin1959

# Posted on August 21st 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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I never knew Des Mulkere played the flute (as in the clip with Denis Murphy, Julia Clifford & Paddy Maloney). I always associate him with the banjo as in the famous Joe Cooley clip (and other places).

It certainly looks like the same guy, does anyone know for sure.

Here are the two clips (alreay posted above):

flute with Murphy, Clifford and the other guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbfGQ4glQ1s

and banjo with Joe Cooley:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGzJdoMeoQY

and here on banjo again, this time with Charlie Harris:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFOQOSfGMhQ

- chris

# Posted on August 21st 2010 by ramblingpitchfork

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Des has a brother called Enda who I believe is the Banjo man.

# Posted on August 21st 2010 by big_tab

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Des does play flute and banjo, and also tells funny stories. We heard him do all three in a gig with Bobby Gardiner and Jack Talty at Nagle's in Kilfenora in January. He let my friend Stu try his banjo - the same one he played in that famous video of Joe Cooley.

# Posted on August 21st 2010 by GaryAMartin

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# Posted on August 21st 2010 by FIDDLE4

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SWFL Fiddler
Loved that old pic - of the Gang -- lol ,,with the young !
Paddy Cronin --- Is that Larry Reynold's there any thing to
Paddy Reynolds -- Another fiddle who maybe should be on here.

ramblingpitchfork--
Also love those link's -- And how great to hear The Beauty spot played Right for a change,,, Mighty--
jim,,,

# Posted on August 21st 2010 by FIDDLE4

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More about Paddy Reynolds here:

http://www.johndalymusic.com/paddyreynolds/

# Posted on August 22nd 2010 by SWFL Fiddler

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Thanks for this SWFL Fiddler -

Now on by Fav's Bar to be read later -- after 2 cup's of coffee
Some Cig's many drink's of water and a Sunday dinner -- lol...

{ Last night was a Good Local Session } : 0

jim,,

# Posted on August 22nd 2010 by FIDDLE4

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Thanks big-tab and Gary for their replies on Des Mulkere. @ bigtab I'm pretty certain that Des is a banjo player (though his brother may well also be) it appears he's also a flute player too.

thanks - chris

# Posted on August 23rd 2010 by ramblingpitchfork

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Thanks Jim, I hadn't seen that clip of Brian Rooney.

# Posted on August 23rd 2010 by eames59

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Finally got a chance to listen to it all, what a great thread, I will be back again, so many of the clips linked to other good ones on YouTube.
We have spent hundreds of postings on this site trying to explain nyah--well, here you find it--you don't need to explain it, you just need to hear it!

# Posted on August 23rd 2010 by AlBrown

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Check this out for some real Irish Music Style - Joe 'Lacky' Gallagher - a Leitrim fiddle player, recorded in the 1940's.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17GLVIQtHN0

# Posted on August 26th 2010 by jennym