Being percussionist in a celtic group. Want to learn to play the military snare drum, but can't find one for sale. Anyone out there wanting to get rid of it??
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
Yeah, where are you? There are all kinds for drums for sale in the eastern US. If you can wait till fall, a lot of upper grade pipe bands sell off their gear for new stuff the coming season. I might even have something left from our sell of last year. if I have any left, they'd be Premier hst 600's.
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
I'm very cautious of people who:
1. are naive enough to believe in 'God'
2. have some outdated need to express some sort of pride in nationalism or patriotism
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
yes, things could always be worse, couldn't they. God only knows what Osama bin Laden would do with people who call their locale god's own country! Heaven forbid.
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
Fancy doing a bit of marching then. I'd imagine you should have no trouble picking one up in Scotland of all places.
When you do get around to learning it have a look at this guy and see just how far you have to go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYT77qnPqcI
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
Jim K in the lead tip for Shotts and Dykhead Pipe Band. Big time player. The drum heads are made of Kevlar for highland snare drums(the only thing you can hear over the fecking pipers). Give yourself a few months before you can expect that sound coming from your hands
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
I cut my teeth on those old rope tension side drums with skin heads, and I'm amazed at the improvements made since those days. However I can see how AlBrown thought that the heads on modern side drums were made from plywood. I'm not really a lover of the 'wooden type tap sound' that comes from modern side drums and I'm inclined to agree with Jim Campin that maybe the old ones sounded more musical. However there were many downsides to those old drums. If the skin ripped, the new head which came as a roll of velum, had to be immersed in water, usually over night. Then having removed all the old skin from the hoop, the new pliable skin was then lapped onto the hoop, placed on the drum and the ropes lightly tightened. A desert spoon was usually the tool used for the lapping process. When the skin dried, the ropes were tightened until the drummer was happy with the bounce of the stick. The heads were affected by the weather to such an extent that on a damp day it was like trying to bounce a stick on a blanket. Also the tension had to be removed from the head after every gig. The snare itself which gives the 'rattle sound' was usually made from gut (see photo)
The invention of plastic heads and rod tensions made life a lot easier for drummers. Lastly, I never fail to be amazed at how the skill of drumming has advanced over the years. On reflection I suppose the same can be said about musicians generally.
(Photo -16 year old strutting his stuff)
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
If this were God's own country the weather would be much better. If I were God I would be hanging out on a beach in some place like Hawaii or Fiji and not cowering in a tent in the p*ssing rain for the better part of a week.
searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
Being percussionist in a celtic group. Want to learn to play the military snare drum, but can't find one for sale. Anyone out there wanting to get rid of it??
# Posted on July 30th 2010 by whistling01
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
You say in your biog that you live in 'Gods (sic) own country'. Which one is that then?
# Posted on July 30th 2010 by yhaalhouse
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
Yeah, where are you? There are all kinds for drums for sale in the eastern US. If you can wait till fall, a lot of upper grade pipe bands sell off their gear for new stuff the coming season. I might even have something left from our sell of last year. if I have any left, they'd be Premier hst 600's.
# Posted on July 30th 2010 by mainiac
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Where else then Scotland
Good idea, thanks.
# Posted on July 30th 2010 by whistling01
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(thinks out loud). jee I'm glad everyone thinks they live in god's own country. If they didn't they'd all end up here!!
# Posted on July 30th 2010 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
I'm very cautious of people who:
1. are naive enough to believe in 'God'
2. have some outdated need to express some sort of pride in nationalism or patriotism
# Posted on July 30th 2010 by yhaalhouse
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
what, you mean like Osama bin Laden?
# Posted on July 30th 2010 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh
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Yes!
But I suppose I can just about put up with 1. but 2. makes me jittery..
# Posted on July 30th 2010 by yhaalhouse
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
yes, things could always be worse, couldn't they. God only knows what Osama bin Laden would do with people who call their locale god's own country! Heaven forbid.
# Posted on July 30th 2010 by Skull Duggeraigh Dubh
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
Fancy doing a bit of marching then. I'd imagine you should have no trouble picking one up in Scotland of all places.
When you do get around to learning it have a look at this guy and see just how far you have to go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYT77qnPqcI
# Posted on July 30th 2010 by Free Reed
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
How do they get that ratty tat sound? Are their drumheads made of plywood, or do they just tighten the heck out of them?
# Posted on July 30th 2010 by AlBrown
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
Very tough plastic heads and steel hardware to tighten them.
Means they can support an incredible number of taps per second while sounding nothing like a real drum.
The old-style skin-headed rope-tensioned drums sound far more musical, but no competition band today would dare use them.
# Posted on July 31st 2010 by Jack Campin
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
Jim K in the lead tip for Shotts and Dykhead Pipe Band. Big time player. The drum heads are made of Kevlar for highland snare drums(the only thing you can hear over the fecking pipers). Give yourself a few months before you can expect that sound coming from your hands
# Posted on July 31st 2010 by mainiac
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
I cut my teeth on those old rope tension side drums with skin heads, and I'm amazed at the improvements made since those days. However I can see how AlBrown thought that the heads on modern side drums were made from plywood. I'm not really a lover of the 'wooden type tap sound' that comes from modern side drums and I'm inclined to agree with Jim Campin that maybe the old ones sounded more musical. However there were many downsides to those old drums. If the skin ripped, the new head which came as a roll of velum, had to be immersed in water, usually over night. Then having removed all the old skin from the hoop, the new pliable skin was then lapped onto the hoop, placed on the drum and the ropes lightly tightened. A desert spoon was usually the tool used for the lapping process. When the skin dried, the ropes were tightened until the drummer was happy with the bounce of the stick. The heads were affected by the weather to such an extent that on a damp day it was like trying to bounce a stick on a blanket. Also the tension had to be removed from the head after every gig. The snare itself which gives the 'rattle sound' was usually made from gut (see photo)
The invention of plastic heads and rod tensions made life a lot easier for drummers. Lastly, I never fail to be amazed at how the skill of drumming has advanced over the years. On reflection I suppose the same can be said about musicians generally.
(Photo -16 year old strutting his stuff)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3637/3373305076_14cc05d4d1_o.jpg
# Posted on July 31st 2010 by Free Reed
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Thanks for the explaination guys!
# Posted on July 31st 2010 by AlBrown
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If this were God's own country the weather would be much better. If I were God I would be hanging out on a beach in some place like Hawaii or Fiji and not cowering in a tent in the p*ssing rain for the better part of a week.
# Posted on July 31st 2010 by DrSilverSpear
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He's up there, testing your faith.
# Posted on July 31st 2010 by nicholas
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Here's one.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Queens-Gurkha-Engineers-Traditional-Pipe-Band-Side-Drum-/400141309364?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item5d2a47d5b4#ht_4513wt_927
# Posted on August 3rd 2010 by iain beag
Re: searching for a second hand pipe band snare drum
Dance band snares generally have a snare just on one skin,
Pipe-band snare drums usually have a snare top and bottom.
# Posted on August 5th 2010 by geoffwright