Sorry I don't know the tune myself, but I converted the above into the ABC format and tried looking for it in The Reverend's Tune Search Engine (http://abctunesearch.com/).. no luck I'm afraid.
@Caitail - your full abc transcription of Chipz's tune certainly makes things a little clearer!
However, I don't think that it's the Penicuik Hornpipe. I may be wrong, but it seems to have the feel of an Ulster Scots or a Northumbrian tune.
@ Chipz - I like the tune, but that's maybe because (unlike most people) I like marches.
The problem is, marches at sessions are about as rare as hens' teeth! The only two marches that I've ever heard played at sessions are the Centenary March and Roddy McCorley. For this reason, I think it''s unlikely that you'll get a response to your tune title request in this instance - but good luck anyway!
BTW, I've been looking through my own (fairly extensive) resources for your tune, but so far have drawn a blank.
It might be worthwhile you sending an email to user Ceolachan (he has a good knowledge of obscure tunes).
Q. How did you come across this tune? Knowing your source might possibly aid research.
The march submitted is called The Síamsa March. The word Síamsa (Eng: Sheem-Sa) is an Irish word. I think it means Festival but I wouldn't bet on that, and if I'm wrong I'm sure somebody will put me right. .
Mix- The word Síamsa covers a multitude of things such as enjoyment, celebrations etc, and this particular tune is The Síamsa March
I learnt the march in 1990. I was helping a few musicians learn some tunes at the time and one of them gave me the music copy (which I still have) of two marches that they wished to learn - The Síamsa and Ireland Abú. When i played the first one I sort of had it in my head already from somewhere. The second one I knew from the sixties, but we use to call it The Ulster Prince. I'm wondering if the tune came from Siamsa Tire, which was formed in Kerry in 1957. (see below) Lastly I played with a folk orchestra on a CD about four years back and one of the march selections we recorded was The Siamsa - Ireland Abú and Down the Glen.
I think the Síamsa March was around well before Lord of the Dance.
Siamsa Tíre, National Folk Theatre & Arts Centre
Siamsa, pronounced “Shee-am-sa”, comes from the Irish language. The word itself expresses mirth and music, Tíre means ‘of the land’. At the heart of Siamsa Tíre lies a five person professional core group of full-time players supported by selected artists drawn from the local community but trained in the unique Siamsa style and idiom. Full-time and community performers integrate and blend into a dedicated and talented team.
Reflecting (as you do) on the Síamsa March. i seem to recall there was a Ceili Band in Co Louth back in the 50s/60 called The Síamsa. I think that Brian O'Kane, the composer of some lovely marches, played with them....just wondering if there is a connection with this tune?
title of march???
title of march???
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CD'/E'-E'D'CAD'E'/F'-F'E'D'-FG/A-A-BCD'B/E'-E'F'E'-D'E'/F'-F'E'D'-CD'/E'D'BGB-FG/ABCD'FAGE/D-D-ED://
I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me the name of this tune.....thanks a mill
# Posted on June 9th 2010 by ChipZ
Re: title of march???
Sorry I don't know the tune myself, but I converted the above into the ABC format and tried looking for it in The Reverend's Tune Search Engine (http://abctunesearch.com/).. no luck I'm afraid.
X:1
T:Unknown March
M:4/4
R:March
K:D
AG|F2GE D2FA|fffe d2FG|ABcd FAGF|E2EF E2AG|
F2GE D2FA|fffe d2FG|ABcd FAGE|D2DE D2:||
cd|e2ed cAde|f2fe d2FG|A2A2 BcdB|e2ef e2de|
f2fe d2cd|edBG B2FG|ABcd FAGE|D2DE D2:||
# Posted on June 10th 2010 by Catail
Re: title of march???
Could it be The Penicuik Hornpipe? - http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/6984
Played straight like a reel
# Posted on June 10th 2010 by Catail
Re: title of march???
@Caitail - your full abc transcription of Chipz's tune certainly makes things a little clearer!
However, I don't think that it's the Penicuik Hornpipe. I may be wrong, but it seems to have the feel of an Ulster Scots or a Northumbrian tune.
@ Chipz - I like the tune, but that's maybe because (unlike most people) I like marches.
The problem is, marches at sessions are about as rare as hens' teeth! The only two marches that I've ever heard played at sessions are the Centenary March and Roddy McCorley. For this reason, I think it''s unlikely that you'll get a response to your tune title request in this instance - but good luck anyway!
BTW, I've been looking through my own (fairly extensive) resources for your tune, but so far have drawn a blank.
It might be worthwhile you sending an email to user Ceolachan (he has a good knowledge of obscure tunes).
Q. How did you come across this tune? Knowing your source might possibly aid research.
# Posted on June 10th 2010 by Mix O'Lydian
Re: title of march???
The march submitted is called The Síamsa March. The word Síamsa (Eng: Sheem-Sa) is an Irish word. I think it means Festival but I wouldn't bet on that, and if I'm wrong I'm sure somebody will put me right. .
# Posted on June 10th 2010 by Free Reed
Re: title of march???
@Free Reed - I know of a tune "Siamsa" - written by Ronan Hardiman for Michael Flatley's "Lord of the Dance"
But I don't think that iit's the same tune as the abc posted by ChipZ above.
Assuming you agree that it is not, what is your source for the tune title that you are referring to?
# Posted on June 10th 2010 by Mix O'Lydian
Re: title of march???
Mix- The word Síamsa covers a multitude of things such as enjoyment, celebrations etc, and this particular tune is The Síamsa March
I learnt the march in 1990. I was helping a few musicians learn some tunes at the time and one of them gave me the music copy (which I still have) of two marches that they wished to learn - The Síamsa and Ireland Abú. When i played the first one I sort of had it in my head already from somewhere. The second one I knew from the sixties, but we use to call it The Ulster Prince. I'm wondering if the tune came from Siamsa Tire, which was formed in Kerry in 1957. (see below) Lastly I played with a folk orchestra on a CD about four years back and one of the march selections we recorded was The Siamsa - Ireland Abú and Down the Glen.
I think the Síamsa March was around well before Lord of the Dance.
Siamsa Tíre, National Folk Theatre & Arts Centre
Siamsa, pronounced “Shee-am-sa”, comes from the Irish language. The word itself expresses mirth and music, Tíre means ‘of the land’. At the heart of Siamsa Tíre lies a five person professional core group of full-time players supported by selected artists drawn from the local community but trained in the unique Siamsa style and idiom. Full-time and community performers integrate and blend into a dedicated and talented team.
# Posted on June 10th 2010 by Free Reed
Re: title of march???
@Free Reed - well, thank you for that extra info.
Perhaps either you or ChipZ could post the abc to the tune section?
# Posted on June 11th 2010 by Mix O'Lydian
Re: title of march???
Reflecting (as you do) on the Síamsa March. i seem to recall there was a Ceili Band in Co Louth back in the 50s/60 called The Síamsa. I think that Brian O'Kane, the composer of some lovely marches, played with them....just wondering if there is a connection with this tune?
# Posted on June 12th 2010 by Free Reed