I know it's a common trait that will never change, but, why is it that most everywhere you go, someone is being ripped to shreds behind their back. Mustardia is a place where it happens regularly and I'm sure I'll get ripped on for presenting this thread. The pub session atmosphere is fertile ground for it. Many newcomers get put off by that attitude. I've seen some of the nicest people get treated like dirt. Of the times I've gone into places without an instrument to check out the atmosphere, there's usually someone who is being ripped on behind their back. I usually call BS when someone is being unethical. I'm guilty of the BS at times without realizing it, but I'm trying to recognize it and stop. I guess I'm trying to look for too high a standard of people who find no thrill in backbiting.
I just think that backbiting is to a greater or lesser degree human nature. And what can’t be cured must be endured, as the old saying goes. I'm an actor and, for the most part, people in the theatre make ITM musicians look like rank armatures. Theatre people have refined backbiting and character assassination to an art form.
<If your gonna swim with the sharks, your gonna get bit>--
This is true - very much in competition music,, ie, At fleadhs etc,,,but can happen in Session's -- but they forget, once they where a little fish themselves too..
jim,,,
I think most of the backbiting and personal assaults that take place both in "Mustardia" (nice word) and at sessions can be traced to insecurity. Everyone here who engages in personal assaults, either on other board members or on major ITM artists, show serious signs of it, and the same is true at sessions. People who are secure in their abilities usually just enjoy performing the tunes with their friends for mutual enjoyment and amusement and don't concern themselves with the abilities, or lack there of, from fellow musicians and or newcomers unless it starts to seriously interfere with the flow of the music and general craic.
That is why a lot of people around here use their real names instead of pseudonyms, or make their identity known in their profiles--it tends to keep one honest knowing that what they say in a public forum can and will get back to the person they are talking about.
I won't say I don't gossip, but I do try to avoid the temptation. Always best when one has a problem with someone, you tell them to their face.
That's true, Al, I'm often disappointed when I look at someone's profile and the identity is conspicuous by its absence. I do wish people would do us the courtesy of introducing themselves to us in their profiles... it might lend to a more civilized discussion forum as well.
Not only did my pseudonym used to be my stage name, many people still remember it/me.
Why, someone came up to me on the holding area for Harry Potter only the other year and said "Didn't you used to be Guernsey Pete ?"
But let's not go round dropping names....
This phenomenon can be found anywhere humans gather. Congrats to you boatpiper for calling out the cowards who would seek to bolster their pack standing by slagging another person in secret. I sincerely believe If you have an issue with another, you should have the testicular fortitude to speak your mind to their face. Otherwise shut thy slanderous cake-hole.
Pete - I had a similar thing happen. When I was playing folk songs in coffee shops, I decided that my given name was not sufficiently memorable, so I used a pseudonym. This went on for about four years or so, and I never really did more than occasional coffeeshop gigs, but five years after I'd given it up people still would look at me and say "Hey... aren't you the Reverend Doctor Goatcheese McGillicuddy?"
Even better was the person standing behind me in a line for a coffee who heard me order and asked me if I was the guy who did the community calendar announcements on KBOO. (I was)
Some nice feedback. The anonymous thing here is surely an atmosphere for ripping on someone unreasonably. I've gone back and forth between acknowledging alot to almost nothing to avoid any possibility of cyberstalking. In a public forum it can be dangerous to reveal too much. I've revealed my identity enough times that regulars know my name. It's Gary. Here's more info if your interested. http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/24345#comment508196
I think it's fun to have a bit of mystery in life. But I don't think it's fun to listen to people be mean anonymously or, really, to be mean in any style.
Well, hell, you're in Oregon. Wish I was there, I'll tell you what. Boston's nice and all, but my peeps is back in P-town. (as the kids say)
You probably know a lot of the people that I'm talking about when I say there are people who will really help you out when you're getting started...
Yeah Jon, I've been here on the coast for a little over a year. I used to live in Colorado. Steamboat Springs ( it's called The Boat by locals ) I take my name Boatpiper from that. I really don't know too many P-town folks yet, but that'll change. So far, I've met a couple folks who play but have yet to get involved regularly with anybody.
Another thing that seems to go with ITM in my experience, is someone is sure to take something personal, that happens as if it was a purposeful act to alienate him or her, anonymity, helps reduce the false assumptions of offense that seem typical as well, when people are posting etiquette questions, I see it as being a sort of Dear Abbey, situation, and don't see much harm in it.
I sometimes see those annoying threads on here, where people are ranting about some sort of snubbing that went on in their home town, etc... it's silly, and I for one am sensible enough to see the writers as being just that, silly, I do wish I knew where they were from though, so I'd know who to avoid if I ever went there. What funny is when it's clear they know one another, why not carry on in email, or over the phone why bore other people with it?
Oh well.. it's an internet message board that I voluntarily read, no sense in getting arsed about it.
Well, there's some great people in the scene there - at least one of whom posts here from time to time. (Hi, Shannon!) Used to be you could find a session every night of the week, and two on Sunday. I don't know what's going on now, though.
This is just part of human nature. What's different about session
culture? Sometimes you have to do it the workplace to work
out a common strategy or to have a reality check. Maybe not
everybody agrees that XX is bad player ...?
"people in the theatre make ITM musicians look like rank armatures"
Armatures? Are you winding us up?
The main reason for anonymity on discussion boards, as everybody knows, is so that employers and family won't know how much time you spend skiving on them.
I think we've all experienced the two-faced thing at one time or another. And it is difficult not to take it all personally, especially when you are being criticized and dogged on for something that means so much to you. I'm not really sure what is worse, though... talking behind one's back or being deliberately mean and surly to someone's "face" anonymously or otherwise on a public forum for the whole world to see.
There are some snidey comments posted about me on the Blythe's page on this site, by someone called sennapod (obviously makes them talk sh!te) http://www.thesession.org/sessions/display/451
Quite honestly it doesn't worry me and I just think this person is a sad individual if they can't reveal who they are in real life. I don't even know if it is an actual player at the session or not. A laughable and pretty cowardly way to carry on. And I think that about any person with more faces than the town clock.
Good thing too! All that chest thumping, grunting and other expressions? Whew. A little backbiting and school yard behavior among adults is a small price to pay for language. A necessary evil, I guess.
Not necessary but done none the less. We can choose how to behave if we want to.
Myself?
I sure feel better when I walk away from it and find positive things to do.
I've never run into backbiting at my local session, but then I don't pay much attention to it. I've had very positive experiences on the rare occasions I get to make it there. If there is, I don't know about it, nor do I care.
OK, sorry you missed my humor boatpiper. Homo Sapiens, of the primate family. Talking apes.
Not necessary from a moral standpoint at all. From having to share the planet with the other talking primates? I suppose it's necessary to suffer it, along with many other things, unless you go hole up in a cabin somewhere.
Ah yes I see SWFL, primates, share the planet, talking apes, reminds me strangely of Roddy Mcdowell.
I've done the hole up in the cabin bit too........was quite nice actually...........How I miss the old cabin on the hill........Sigh.
They did! In 2001. With Helena Bonham Carter on bodhran...
It must have been a great series to work on: all that wig glue that they must have used to stick wiggish things all over her (and other's) bodies.
Feel flattered! Only if one is found to be fascinating will one be discussed behind one's back.
I have taken to leaving a hidden portable recorder running when I leave the presence of others. By doing so I have learned not only how deeply I am admired, but also how keenly I am envied (which is an even more delicious discovery). For a humble man, these findings are edifying.
In addition, I would recommend a hidden, live-feed video camera rigged up to peer through the eye-shaped buttonhole at the back of your Oxford shirt collar (with a cable running to your smart phone, which you are to calmly hold and view). By this method I have learned, whilst standing at the bar, that even those seemingly standoffish humans of the opposite gender routinely give me long, lingering, sighing appraisals when that flank o' mine is presented. (The jodhpurs help. I freely admit that's true.)
Irish Tradidional Music is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out. It's a struggle for supremacy, a survival of the fittest.
Irish Tradidional Music ?
What, is that the Ken Dodd Diddy version? Your not from Knotty Ash perchance? Be Tickled if you were, after all Love is Like a Violin. Tears if knot.
I wonder if Orson Welles ever tried to play pipes.
Well, if he didn't, he should have.
War of the Worlds would have been way better with pipes in the sound mix.
The other problem that often happens here, and in person, is that people tend to take criticism of their playing extremely personally, even if it is meant in a constructive way...
I was having this conversation with another player recently. We came to the conclusion that the music is something that we care so deeply about, and invest much time and energy in, that it really feels like it becomes part of us. And so to hear even constructive criticism is extremely difficult. Add to that the competitive nature of human beings, and it can get ugly.
But on this forum, there is often really good advice that is taken as a personal insult because of who said it, or the gruff way in which they said it. If people would stop having immediate knee-jerk reactions to other peoples posts, and try to actually figure out why the person said what they said, we'd have a lot less bickering and back-biting...
I gave the Ty Cobb version of ITM. He was a baseball player who would file his cleats down razor sharp to intimidate his opponents. Sometimes he cut them down to shreds.
A few cats in the ITM scene have this ultra surly attitude and will cut each other to shreds. Thankfully, most people are super-cool who just want to get along with others and have a good time. Peace, Love and Understanding. That's what it's about baby!
Never heard of Ken Dodd, but checked some of his stuff out on You Tube--Funny!
Hmmm..... sigh...... Ty Cobb.
Everybody really should watch the movie Cobb.
Desperatel and angry, he alienated everyone around him. A wealthy yet lonely alcoholic, he died of cancer in 1961.
Narcissistic to the end he still insisted satisfaction with his life.
After watching the movie I felt so sorry for that tormented guy.
He spent his life tormenting everyone he ever knew and in the end the only one left to torment was himself, so he did.
I would much rather hear from my mates ways to improve my playing than to never hear anything at all, about my playing. If someone says I'm off I'll drag it out of them to give me some details. It's not masochistic, just part of learning. From my experience there are some really good people who will tell me straight up what they think. I haven't stopped learning. Hope I never do.. Anyway, I'm rambling. Guess I'm just saying Mary (the antique hunter) had it spot on a couple of weeks ago when she thanked the mustard board.
That sounds like good constructive criticism you're talking about Random. Quite a different thing from backbiting character assasination. Still amidst all the mix there is, this is still a great place, (the world that is) to hang out and this little corner called Mustardia is a treasure within the treasure.
Thanks all o ye all.
Two years ago, I did something which might qualify as talking behind someone's back. I posted some comments and complaints on this web site about some of the other local musicians who participate in the local Irish music sessions. I did that because these people didn't seem to be interested in listening to my comments and complaints. Their attitude seemed to be that I should keep my mouth shut and treat it like rape, i.e., remember to relax and enjoy it.
Crude mean people settle to their place in life.
Sometimes certain folks just don't get it and continue living at the bottom of the pond with all the worms and crusty creatures.
Sometimes it's interesting to stir up the pond and so the crusty creatures muck about in the slimy scum.
It's a rudimentary scientific experiment on primal behavior of crustaceans.
The people whom I was complaining about didn't seem to want to listen to me. Instead, they seemed to just want me to listen to them perform instead of inviting me to perform with them.
Some of the members of this web site were sympathetic and some were unsympathetic.
Actually, piano keys are made out of hard plastic now instead of ivory because elephants are supposed to be an endangered species.
In addition, I heard that the elephants have formed their own union so they demand more money for selling their tusks.
Behind your back
Behind your back
I know it's a common trait that will never change, but, why is it that most everywhere you go, someone is being ripped to shreds behind their back. Mustardia is a place where it happens regularly and I'm sure I'll get ripped on for presenting this thread. The pub session atmosphere is fertile ground for it. Many newcomers get put off by that attitude. I've seen some of the nicest people get treated like dirt. Of the times I've gone into places without an instrument to check out the atmosphere, there's usually someone who is being ripped on behind their back. I usually call BS when someone is being unethical. I'm guilty of the BS at times without realizing it, but I'm trying to recognize it and stop. I guess I'm trying to look for too high a standard of people who find no thrill in backbiting.
# Posted on May 9th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
I just think that backbiting is to a greater or lesser degree human nature. And what can’t be cured must be endured, as the old saying goes. I'm an actor and, for the most part, people in the theatre make ITM musicians look like rank armatures. Theatre people have refined backbiting and character assassination to an art form.
# Posted on May 9th 2010 by jigtime
Re: Behind your back
If your gonna swim with the sharks, your gonna get bit.
# Posted on May 9th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
<If your gonna swim with the sharks, your gonna get bit>--
This is true - very much in competition music,, ie, At fleadhs etc,,,but can happen in Session's -- but they forget, once they where a little fish themselves too..
jim,,,
# Posted on May 9th 2010 by FIDDLE4
Re: Behind your back
I think most of the backbiting and personal assaults that take place both in "Mustardia" (nice word) and at sessions can be traced to insecurity. Everyone here who engages in personal assaults, either on other board members or on major ITM artists, show serious signs of it, and the same is true at sessions. People who are secure in their abilities usually just enjoy performing the tunes with their friends for mutual enjoyment and amusement and don't concern themselves with the abilities, or lack there of, from fellow musicians and or newcomers unless it starts to seriously interfere with the flow of the music and general craic.
# Posted on May 9th 2010 by Phantom Button
Re: Behind your back
That is why a lot of people around here use their real names instead of pseudonyms, or make their identity known in their profiles--it tends to keep one honest knowing that what they say in a public forum can and will get back to the person they are talking about.
I won't say I don't gossip, but I do try to avoid the temptation. Always best when one has a problem with someone, you tell them to their face.
# Posted on May 9th 2010 by AlBrown
Re: Behind your back
That's true, Al, I'm often disappointed when I look at someone's profile and the identity is conspicuous by its absence. I do wish people would do us the courtesy of introducing themselves to us in their profiles... it might lend to a more civilized discussion forum as well.
# Posted on May 9th 2010 by Phantom Button
Re: Behind your back
Not only did my pseudonym used to be my stage name, many people still remember it/me.
Why, someone came up to me on the holding area for Harry Potter only the other year and said "Didn't you used to be Guernsey Pete ?"
But let's not go round dropping names....
# Posted on May 9th 2010 by Guernsey Pete
Re: Behind your back
This phenomenon can be found anywhere humans gather. Congrats to you boatpiper for calling out the cowards who would seek to bolster their pack standing by slagging another person in secret. I sincerely believe If you have an issue with another, you should have the testicular fortitude to speak your mind to their face. Otherwise shut thy slanderous cake-hole.
# Posted on May 9th 2010 by Jusa Nutter Eejit
Re: Behind your back
Pete - I had a similar thing happen. When I was playing folk songs in coffee shops, I decided that my given name was not sufficiently memorable, so I used a pseudonym. This went on for about four years or so, and I never really did more than occasional coffeeshop gigs, but five years after I'd given it up people still would look at me and say "Hey... aren't you the Reverend Doctor Goatcheese McGillicuddy?"
Even better was the person standing behind me in a line for a coffee who heard me order and asked me if I was the guy who did the community calendar announcements on KBOO. (I was)
# Posted on May 9th 2010 by Jon Kiparsky
Re: Behind your back
Some nice feedback. The anonymous thing here is surely an atmosphere for ripping on someone unreasonably. I've gone back and forth between acknowledging alot to almost nothing to avoid any possibility of cyberstalking. In a public forum it can be dangerous to reveal too much. I've revealed my identity enough times that regulars know my name. It's Gary. Here's more info if your interested.
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/24345#comment508196
I think it's fun to have a bit of mystery in life. But I don't think it's fun to listen to people be mean anonymously or, really, to be mean in any style.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
Well, hell, you're in Oregon. Wish I was there, I'll tell you what. Boston's nice and all, but my peeps is back in P-town. (as the kids say)
You probably know a lot of the people that I'm talking about when I say there are people who will really help you out when you're getting started...
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Jon Kiparsky
Re: Behind your back
Yeah Jon, I've been here on the coast for a little over a year. I used to live in Colorado. Steamboat Springs ( it's called The Boat by locals ) I take my name Boatpiper from that. I really don't know too many P-town folks yet, but that'll change. So far, I've met a couple folks who play but have yet to get involved regularly with anybody.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
To look at the flip side of the coin:
Another thing that seems to go with ITM in my experience, is someone is sure to take something personal, that happens as if it was a purposeful act to alienate him or her, anonymity, helps reduce the false assumptions of offense that seem typical as well, when people are posting etiquette questions, I see it as being a sort of Dear Abbey, situation, and don't see much harm in it.
I sometimes see those annoying threads on here, where people are ranting about some sort of snubbing that went on in their home town, etc... it's silly, and I for one am sensible enough to see the writers as being just that, silly, I do wish I knew where they were from though, so I'd know who to avoid if I ever went there. What funny is when it's clear they know one another, why not carry on in email, or over the phone why bore other people with it?
Oh well.. it's an internet message board that I voluntarily read, no sense in getting arsed about it.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by SandyBottoms
Re: Behind your back
Well, there's some great people in the scene there - at least one of whom posts here from time to time. (Hi, Shannon!) Used to be you could find a session every night of the week, and two on Sunday. I don't know what's going on now, though.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Jon Kiparsky
Re: Behind your back
This is just part of human nature. What's different about session
culture? Sometimes you have to do it the workplace to work
out a common strategy or to have a reality check. Maybe not
everybody agrees that XX is bad player ...?
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Hup
Re: Behind your back
"people in the theatre make ITM musicians look like rank armatures"
Armatures? Are you winding us up?
The main reason for anonymity on discussion boards, as everybody knows, is so that employers and family won't know how much time you spend skiving on them.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Bren
Re: Behind your back
Hi Boatpiper. I know who you are now.
I didn't know you'd moved to Oregon but then I am well out of the Colorado loop these days.
I think gossip and backbiting is just one of those things that happen when people hang out in groups.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by DrSilverSpear
Re: Behind your back
I think we've all experienced the two-faced thing at one time or another. And it is difficult not to take it all personally, especially when you are being criticized and dogged on for something that means so much to you. I'm not really sure what is worse, though... talking behind one's back or being deliberately mean and surly to someone's "face" anonymously or otherwise on a public forum for the whole world to see.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Fiddlechick7
Re: Behind your back
Who were you thinking of, Fiddlechick7?
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by ethical blend
Re: Behind your back
There are some snidey comments posted about me on the Blythe's page on this site, by someone called sennapod (obviously makes them talk sh!te)
http://www.thesession.org/sessions/display/451
Quite honestly it doesn't worry me and I just think this person is a sad individual if they can't reveal who they are in real life. I don't even know if it is an actual player at the session or not. A laughable and pretty cowardly way to carry on. And I think that about any person with more faces than the town clock.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Rudall the time
Re: Behind your back
Ah well,
"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about" (Oscar Wilde)
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by domhnall.
Re: Behind your back
Humans are awfully weird primates, aren't they? These apes learn how to talk and it's all over.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Behind your back
Hi Silverspear, I'd figured out your cover sometime ago. Ha, we're being not talked about by apes.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
Good thing too! All that chest thumping, grunting and other expressions? Whew. A little backbiting and school yard behavior among adults is a small price to pay for language. A necessary evil, I guess.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Behind your back
Not necessary but done none the less. We can choose how to behave if we want to.
Myself?
I sure feel better when I walk away from it and find positive things to do.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
I've never run into backbiting at my local session, but then I don't pay much attention to it. I've had very positive experiences on the rare occasions I get to make it there. If there is, I don't know about it, nor do I care.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Jimmy B
Re: Behind your back
Nor do I care.
Good attitude to have Jimmy.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
OK, sorry you missed my humor boatpiper. Homo Sapiens, of the primate family. Talking apes.
Not necessary from a moral standpoint at all. From having to share the planet with the other talking primates? I suppose it's necessary to suffer it, along with many other things, unless you go hole up in a cabin somewhere.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Behind your back
Ah yes I see SWFL, primates, share the planet, talking apes, reminds me strangely of Roddy Mcdowell.
I've done the hole up in the cabin bit too........was quite nice actually...........How I miss the old cabin on the hill........Sigh.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
They should have made another sequel to Planet of the Apes with Charlton Heston on fiddle and Roddy McDowell on pipes.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
They did! In 2001. With Helena Bonham Carter on bodhran...
It must have been a great series to work on: all that wig glue that they must have used to stick wiggish things all over her (and other's) bodies.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by yhaalhouse
Re: Behind your back
Helena Bodhran Carter? Session of the Apes.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Behind your back
Musta been a veritable wig glue extraviganza!
Hey....ya missed a spot.... yeah right there....... behind your back.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
Feel flattered! Only if one is found to be fascinating will one be discussed behind one's back.
I have taken to leaving a hidden portable recorder running when I leave the presence of others. By doing so I have learned not only how deeply I am admired, but also how keenly I am envied (which is an even more delicious discovery). For a humble man, these findings are edifying.
In addition, I would recommend a hidden, live-feed video camera rigged up to peer through the eye-shaped buttonhole at the back of your Oxford shirt collar (with a cable running to your smart phone, which you are to calmly hold and view). By this method I have learned, whilst standing at the bar, that even those seemingly standoffish humans of the opposite gender routinely give me long, lingering, sighing appraisals when that flank o' mine is presented. (The jodhpurs help. I freely admit that's true.)
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by NEW Pure Drop® Ear Canal Oil
Re: Behind your back
Actually, they're just after the jodhpurs. Where DO you find those, anyway?
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Jon Kiparsky
Re: Behind your back
Irish Tradidional Music is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out. It's a struggle for supremacy, a survival of the fittest.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Dzia Dzia
Re: Behind your back
I knew a teeth gnasher would get flushed out eventually.
# Posted on May 10th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
Irish Tradidional Music ?
What, is that the Ken Dodd Diddy version? Your not from Knotty Ash perchance? Be Tickled if you were, after all Love is Like a Violin. Tears if knot.
# Posted on May 11th 2010 by Rudall the time
Re: Behind your back
Tickle the Knotty Ash is a Hop Jig silly.
# Posted on May 11th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
What a wonderful day.
What a wonderful day for shoving your pipes through someones letterbox shouting "the aliens are coming"
# Posted on May 11th 2010 by Eòsaph
Re: Behind your back
That's a normal afternoon for me, Eosaph.
# Posted on May 11th 2010 by DrSilverSpear
Re: Behind your back
I wonder if Orson Welles ever tried to play pipes.
Well, if he didn't, he should have.
War of the Worlds would have been way better with pipes in the sound mix.
# Posted on May 11th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
The other problem that often happens here, and in person, is that people tend to take criticism of their playing extremely personally, even if it is meant in a constructive way...
I was having this conversation with another player recently. We came to the conclusion that the music is something that we care so deeply about, and invest much time and energy in, that it really feels like it becomes part of us. And so to hear even constructive criticism is extremely difficult. Add to that the competitive nature of human beings, and it can get ugly.
But on this forum, there is often really good advice that is taken as a personal insult because of who said it, or the gruff way in which they said it. If people would stop having immediate knee-jerk reactions to other peoples posts, and try to actually figure out why the person said what they said, we'd have a lot less bickering and back-biting...
# Posted on May 11th 2010 by Reverend
Re: Behind your back
Well said, Rev!
# Posted on May 12th 2010 by AlBrown
Re: Behind your back
Danny,
I gave the Ty Cobb version of ITM. He was a baseball player who would file his cleats down razor sharp to intimidate his opponents. Sometimes he cut them down to shreds.
A few cats in the ITM scene have this ultra surly attitude and will cut each other to shreds. Thankfully, most people are super-cool who just want to get along with others and have a good time. Peace, Love and Understanding. That's what it's about baby!
Never heard of Ken Dodd, but checked some of his stuff out on You Tube--Funny!
# Posted on May 12th 2010 by Dzia Dzia
Re: Behind your back
Hmmm..... sigh...... Ty Cobb.
Everybody really should watch the movie Cobb.
Desperatel and angry, he alienated everyone around him. A wealthy yet lonely alcoholic, he died of cancer in 1961.
Narcissistic to the end he still insisted satisfaction with his life.
After watching the movie I felt so sorry for that tormented guy.
He spent his life tormenting everyone he ever knew and in the end the only one left to torment was himself, so he did.
# Posted on May 12th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
Bummer man.
That's me talking about Ty Cobb behind his back.
My bad.
# Posted on May 12th 2010 by Gone to work
Talk to me
I would much rather hear from my mates ways to improve my playing than to never hear anything at all, about my playing. If someone says I'm off I'll drag it out of them to give me some details. It's not masochistic, just part of learning. From my experience there are some really good people who will tell me straight up what they think. I haven't stopped learning. Hope I never do.. Anyway, I'm rambling. Guess I'm just saying Mary (the antique hunter) had it spot on a couple of weeks ago when she thanked the mustard board.
# Posted on May 12th 2010 by Ben Steen
Re: Behind your back
That sounds like good constructive criticism you're talking about Random. Quite a different thing from backbiting character assasination. Still amidst all the mix there is, this is still a great place, (the world that is) to hang out and this little corner called Mustardia is a treasure within the treasure.
Thanks all o ye all.
# Posted on May 12th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
Ken Dodd: A penis, a penis, greatest gift that I pocess...
# Posted on May 12th 2010 by yhaalhouse
Re: Behind your back
Woody Allen: "My brain? That's my 2nd favorite organ."
# Posted on May 12th 2010 by Ben Steen
Re: Behind your back
If his brain is his second favorite organ, what is his second favorite piano?
# Posted on May 12th 2010 by fauxcelt
Re: Behind your back
Two years ago, I did something which might qualify as talking behind someone's back. I posted some comments and complaints on this web site about some of the other local musicians who participate in the local Irish music sessions. I did that because these people didn't seem to be interested in listening to my comments and complaints. Their attitude seemed to be that I should keep my mouth shut and treat it like rape, i.e., remember to relax and enjoy it.
# Posted on May 12th 2010 by fauxcelt
Re: Behind your back
Oh my. Say what fauxcelt? You mean, the folks you were complaining about told you to suck it up and like it, or we did?
# Posted on May 12th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Behind your back
Crude mean people settle to their place in life.
Sometimes certain folks just don't get it and continue living at the bottom of the pond with all the worms and crusty creatures.
Sometimes it's interesting to stir up the pond and so the crusty creatures muck about in the slimy scum.
It's a rudimentary scientific experiment on primal behavior of crustaceans.
# Posted on May 12th 2010 by Gone to work
Re: Behind your back
The people whom I was complaining about didn't seem to want to listen to me. Instead, they seemed to just want me to listen to them perform instead of inviting me to perform with them.
Some of the members of this web site were sympathetic and some were unsympathetic.
# Posted on May 13th 2010 by fauxcelt
Re: Behind your back
Harrumph. Some session, eh? Sorry to hear, my ivory tinkling Arkansas friend.
# Posted on May 13th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Behind your back
Damnation, I'm in Stumptown. Why do I never meet people who play the stuff?
Perhaps it's because I never come out of my hole.... Hmmm...
And pleas, no more jodphurs. I'm scarred enough already.
# Posted on May 15th 2010 by Pádraig
Re: Behind your back
Actually, piano keys are made out of hard plastic now instead of ivory because elephants are supposed to be an endangered species.
In addition, I heard that the elephants have formed their own union so they demand more money for selling their tusks.
# Posted on May 20th 2010 by fauxcelt