I'd like to Dropkick the Murphys all the way to...
I'd like to Dropkick the Murphys all the way to...
Alright. I am just wondering what people think about bands like "Dropkick Murphys". Because I have a friend who insists that they are Irish, and no matter how many times I tell him they are NOT, he just goes on bopping his head. And I'm wondering where these kinds of bands came from, or if they actually are in any way Irish except for the fact that the sing about drinking (and that counts as Irish...rude!). Anyone know anything about this? Maybe I'm just a sucker for traditional music though. Ha well let me know what you think!
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Grew up on punk rock. Love Irish trad but hate Irish punk/ Celtic rock etc. I cannot stand this genre of music. It takes two of my favorite types of music and sucks the life out of both!
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I'm pretty sure the band is from Quincy, Massachusetts USA , so they're definitely not "Irish". They play commercial pop music that has been sort of influenced by people who were influenced by traditional Irish music. I like their stuff, it's almost as good as The Pogues'.
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Both DKM and Flogging Molly are pretty much the same. It irks me when people call that Irish music. I don't think it is as bad as Celtic rock, but it is down there.
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They seem to play all the major Irish Festivals in the States alongside Teada and whoever else is touring. It's a booking gap that needs to be filled, it's going to be them or someone else.
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Dropkick Murphys play Rocky Road to Dublin and Wild Rover and a couple other Irish songs. Besides that, they're just bad rock music with bag pipes. Flogging Molly is much better in my opinion but the Pogues are the only one of those band that I like. None of it is really Irish music, but I don't think there is nothing wrong with plying rock music with banjos and accordions.
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It's the raunchy sounding stuff that sells tickets to the sophmoric juvenile minded testosterone crowd with $$$ to spend. Anything that's got a rude earsplitting rebellion party till ya drop attitude will pretty much inspire all the ripe young idiot and sometime old idiots to part with their money. Gives em somewhere to burn up braincells. That's all it is. Sell more tix. Party on but keep an eye on your little sister or she might wind up on the bus.
"Don't make a fuss, just get on the bus.
Crew Slut." Frank Zappa.
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You know, to be fair I don’t really know that much about the individual members of the band. For all I know they learned tunes at their grand da’s knee, went through the Comhaltas system, met in Boston’s session scene and are just out to make a bit of lucre. Fair play to ’em and best of luck – seems to be working. The Pogues were my gateway drug to the pure drop (well, one of my drugs anyway), and maybe the DKMs will help get more people interested in the source music.
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Don't care for Dropkick Murphy's or Flogging Molly. When the Pogues did it it was their thing, and it was fine, and I liked it. And they actually had some class. I doubt very seriously that the Pogues intended to create a sub-genre of music. I don't judge anyone and fidkid makes a valid point. I listened to The Pogues well before I ever picked up a mandolin and learned my first jig. I'm just not a fan of these cheap facsimilies.
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I like Celtic rock and Celtic punk rock. Always have. That doesn't mean I don't love trad either. I think it comes down to genre preference. I notice that most folks that don't like this stuff wouldn't listen to heavy or punk rock anyway. I don't like R &B and most rap... not my cup o tea at all, but I'm not so snobby as to insinuate that aren't good at what they do or that there isn't something to it. I just don't like it. Not liking something is fine, as long as you don't start comparing oranges and apples. You can't compare pure drop to any other genre or cross genre. It's impossible and frankly, it's just not fair.
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I loved them when their first EP and album where actually street punk. Loud guitars and sing along choruses by the original lead singer. Then they started adding as many trad instruments they could into songs and started singing like pirates. They lost me altogether. But it works for people who think Irish America begins and ends with Boston.
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I don't know much about the Dropkicks personally, although I am pretty sure many of them are from Boston Irish families, probably raised by folks who danced the night away in the halls down in Roxbury, and raised their voices on the choruses in pubs around the city.
They are the closest thing that Fenway Park has to a house band, and their song called "Tessie" is thought to have influenced the reversing of The Curse of the Bambino, when the Red Sox finally won the World Series for the first time in 86 years, under the blood red sky of a full lunar eclipse. If they had any influence on that at all, they have earned the eternal gratitude of many, including myself.
I like some of their songs, but saw them in concert once, and realized that an old guy like me only appreciates that kind of music in small doses. And it was an outdoor summer concert, which made the pipes almost impossible to tune, which set my teeth on edge. And I find that, after years of folk music, my ears can't stand rock music any more, I yearned for ear plugs by the end.
But there is lots of room in the world for lots of music, and these guys bring a lot of enjoyment to a lot of people, and have fun doing it, so what is the harm of that?
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Ditto what Fiddlechick7 said, except I like old school R&B. The DKMs are good at what they do, and they've been lucky to achieve some commercial success. Nothing wrong with that in my book.
Come on it's not that big a deal- you can't tell people what to like or not to like. No ones being rude or mean or harmful. If ya like em great! I don't. End of discussion.
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It's pretty much punk rock bands covering irish tunes and songs. At least they don't completely suck.
I've heard a local band that was mostly rock bordering on heavy metal, trying to do something similar (without the punk) and they could do niether rock, or trad, well.
My two cents, anyone has the right to their own opinions and preferences, but remember that"
1) one of the great things about music is innovation and trying new things, even if it is just trying to put different old things together.
2) irish rock/irish punk/ whatever probably does more for introducing trad to the younger generations than youd think.
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VlaMike... my point exactly. Not everyone has the benefit of growing up in the tradition. And some of us were most likely introduced by perusing through more mainstream influences. To be insinuated that our path was "wrong" or "twisted" in some way is kinda a turn off. But, it is a trad site, so I guess those of us that like other stuff as well just have to keep that in mind.
I'd like to Dropkick the Murphys all the way to...
I'd like to Dropkick the Murphys all the way to...
Alright. I am just wondering what people think about bands like "Dropkick Murphys". Because I have a friend who insists that they are Irish, and no matter how many times I tell him they are NOT, he just goes on bopping his head. And I'm wondering where these kinds of bands came from, or if they actually are in any way Irish except for the fact that the sing about drinking (and that counts as Irish...rude!). Anyone know anything about this? Maybe I'm just a sucker for traditional music though. Ha well let me know what you think!
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by muhly07
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Grew up on punk rock. Love Irish trad but hate Irish punk/ Celtic rock etc. I cannot stand this genre of music. It takes two of my favorite types of music and sucks the life out of both!
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by shanty
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Word
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by SandyBottoms
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I'm pretty sure the band is from Quincy, Massachusetts USA , so they're definitely not "Irish". They play commercial pop music that has been sort of influenced by people who were influenced by traditional Irish music. I like their stuff, it's almost as good as The Pogues'.
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by fidkid
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'They play commercial pop music '
yes, that's part of the problem...
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by shanty
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efffffing hideous fluff. No big fan of the Pogues but come on give the Pogues and Shane some credit! Worlds apart!
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by shanty
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Both DKM and Flogging Molly are pretty much the same. It irks me when people call that Irish music. I don't think it is as bad as Celtic rock, but it is down there.
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by pipersgrip
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They seem to play all the major Irish Festivals in the States alongside Teada and whoever else is touring. It's a booking gap that needs to be filled, it's going to be them or someone else.
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by Patkiwi
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Dropkick Murphys play Rocky Road to Dublin and Wild Rover and a couple other Irish songs. Besides that, they're just bad rock music with bag pipes. Flogging Molly is much better in my opinion but the Pogues are the only one of those band that I like. None of it is really Irish music, but I don't think there is nothing wrong with plying rock music with banjos and accordions.
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by Gringo
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It's the raunchy sounding stuff that sells tickets to the sophmoric juvenile minded testosterone crowd with $$$ to spend. Anything that's got a rude earsplitting rebellion party till ya drop attitude will pretty much inspire all the ripe young idiot and sometime old idiots to part with their money. Gives em somewhere to burn up braincells. That's all it is. Sell more tix. Party on but keep an eye on your little sister or she might wind up on the bus.
"Don't make a fuss, just get on the bus.
Crew Slut." Frank Zappa.
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by Gone to work
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You know, to be fair I don’t really know that much about the individual members of the band. For all I know they learned tunes at their grand da’s knee, went through the Comhaltas system, met in Boston’s session scene and are just out to make a bit of lucre. Fair play to ’em and best of luck – seems to be working. The Pogues were my gateway drug to the pure drop (well, one of my drugs anyway), and maybe the DKMs will help get more people interested in the source music.
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by fidkid
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Don't care for Dropkick Murphy's or Flogging Molly. When the Pogues did it it was their thing, and it was fine, and I liked it. And they actually had some class. I doubt very seriously that the Pogues intended to create a sub-genre of music. I don't judge anyone and fidkid makes a valid point. I listened to The Pogues well before I ever picked up a mandolin and learned my first jig. I'm just not a fan of these cheap facsimilies.
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by Jimmy B
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Ronnie Drew thought they were OK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnxed4ZPmcI
They're just making a buck, fair play. It's not art. It's a living.
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
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I like Celtic rock and Celtic punk rock. Always have. That doesn't mean I don't love trad either. I think it comes down to genre preference. I notice that most folks that don't like this stuff wouldn't listen to heavy or punk rock anyway. I don't like R &B and most rap... not my cup o tea at all, but I'm not so snobby as to insinuate that aren't good at what they do or that there isn't something to it. I just don't like it. Not liking something is fine, as long as you don't start comparing oranges and apples. You can't compare pure drop to any other genre or cross genre. It's impossible and frankly, it's just not fair.
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by Fiddlechick7
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I loved them when their first EP and album where actually street punk. Loud guitars and sing along choruses by the original lead singer. Then they started adding as many trad instruments they could into songs and started singing like pirates. They lost me altogether. But it works for people who think Irish America begins and ends with Boston.
# Posted on April 23rd 2010 by HK
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I don't know much about the Dropkicks personally, although I am pretty sure many of them are from Boston Irish families, probably raised by folks who danced the night away in the halls down in Roxbury, and raised their voices on the choruses in pubs around the city.
They are the closest thing that Fenway Park has to a house band, and their song called "Tessie" is thought to have influenced the reversing of The Curse of the Bambino, when the Red Sox finally won the World Series for the first time in 86 years, under the blood red sky of a full lunar eclipse. If they had any influence on that at all, they have earned the eternal gratitude of many, including myself.
I like some of their songs, but saw them in concert once, and realized that an old guy like me only appreciates that kind of music in small doses. And it was an outdoor summer concert, which made the pipes almost impossible to tune, which set my teeth on edge. And I find that, after years of folk music, my ears can't stand rock music any more, I yearned for ear plugs by the end.
But there is lots of room in the world for lots of music, and these guys bring a lot of enjoyment to a lot of people, and have fun doing it, so what is the harm of that?
# Posted on April 24th 2010 by AlBrown
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Ditto what Fiddlechick7 said, except I like old school R&B. The DKMs are good at what they do, and they've been lucky to achieve some commercial success. Nothing wrong with that in my book.
# Posted on April 24th 2010 by GDub
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Madonna's also achieved commercial success and is good at what she does...should I learn to appreciate her too?
# Posted on April 24th 2010 by shanty
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This might be helpful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
# Posted on April 24th 2010 by GDub
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So might this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus
Come on it's not that big a deal- you can't tell people what to like or not to like. No ones being rude or mean or harmful. If ya like em great! I don't. End of discussion.
# Posted on April 24th 2010 by shanty
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Now, shanty, aren't we being just a wee bit immature here?
# Posted on April 24th 2010 by AlBrown
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It's pretty much punk rock bands covering irish tunes and songs. At least they don't completely suck.
I've heard a local band that was mostly rock bordering on heavy metal, trying to do something similar (without the punk) and they could do niether rock, or trad, well.
My two cents, anyone has the right to their own opinions and preferences, but remember that"
1) one of the great things about music is innovation and trying new things, even if it is just trying to put different old things together.
2) irish rock/irish punk/ whatever probably does more for introducing trad to the younger generations than youd think.
# Posted on April 25th 2010 by banshee misfortune
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VlaMike... my point exactly. Not everyone has the benefit of growing up in the tradition. And some of us were most likely introduced by perusing through more mainstream influences. To be insinuated that our path was "wrong" or "twisted" in some way is kinda a turn off. But, it is a trad site, so I guess those of us that like other stuff as well just have to keep that in mind.
# Posted on April 25th 2010 by Fiddlechick7