I was drinking heavily and playing with superglue while looking at youtube and found this while searching for klezmeer tunes. What do you think? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHqFlS3gNMs
Re: What do you think of this other fiddle player?
I think hes good.... "that scrunchy noise" is called a tremello (classical term for it) and its used widely in irish trad fiddle playing. It gives the tune some colour and variation....
Frankie Gavin is the greatest fiddle player tho....
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I dont know very much about classical music.. I play strictly trad but i do music for the leaving cert so i learned what a tremello is!! And OK its me!! :P
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You're wrong. The dots are inside his fiddle and he's obviously looking at them through the f-holes.
Btw, it's good in that video to see bowing that really is parallel to the bridge - an example to us all, and one of the secrets of his tone. Which reminds me of an intermediate standard fiddle player I saw at a workshop last year. She had evidently misunderstood this precept and thought it meant bowing parallel to the end of the fingerboard, which is true in the vast majority of cases; but in her case the end of the fingerboard was not parallel to the bridge and was cut away at quite an angle towards the G-string. The luthier's idea must have been that no-one ever puts their fingers down at the dusty end of the G-string so why have heavy fingerboard ebony in that area (not true actually - Bazzini's spectacular and notorious "La Ronde des Lutins" requires it, for one). Anyway, the lady's bowing was consistently parallel to the end of this particular fingerboard and so her tone was nowhere as good as it should have been. A certain English luthier has something to answer for
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I always find that playing Bazzini's La Ronde des Lutins is a bit difficult on my usual fiddle. My fingers keep getting stuck in the powdered rosin that's been building up. Lucky I have a spare fiddle just for that piece.
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hehe, Tommy only sounds laid back. Try playing a few strathspeys with him when he's in full swing. For the craic, see if you can fit in more ornaments than him
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CreadurMawnOrganig:
Thanks for the link.
I have not had much time for the pursuit of other genres than Irish and related Scots lately, but when living in NYC I managed to get a toe damp with the klezmer scene. Brilliant stuff, some of it.
I use to try to catch the Klezmatics whenever possible, just a lovely band. Iilya is pretty impressive, too. Love the commissar look, too.
What manner of accordion is that he is wrestling with?
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Re Mr Peoples - I was delighted to see him go for that high c' with his little finger. I'd thought I was the only person to do that and that it was a bad habit! I'm still not as good as him though ... ... (sigh)
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The thing about Tommy is, he's got such a history in the music, the groups, the 70s etc and all of his accomplishments that even if you could play just like him, note for note, you still would not *be* Tommy Peoples.
Far better to take inspiration from him and polish your own style of playing. Become an excellent player for yourself, don't just work for years trying to be a clone of Tommy (or anyone else for that matter).
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I checked out the documentary on youtube on Mr. Peoples, and one comment was dead-on target - on meeting him for the first time, one of his friends asked, "Who does he lay/sound like?" and the answer was, "He plays like Tommy Peoples."
What do you think of this other fiddle player?
What do you think of this other fiddle player?
I was drinking heavily and playing with superglue while looking at youtube and found this while searching for klezmeer tunes. What do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHqFlS3gNMs
# Posted on March 15th 2010 by Piece
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I *know* he's using them, but for the life of me I can't see where he's hidden the dots....
# Posted on March 15th 2010 by Will Harmon
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I think they're right behind his eyelids, Miss L....
# Posted on March 15th 2010 by John Culhane
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And why's he keep doing that scrunchy noise with his bow? Someone should give him a few lessons in tone production.
# Posted on March 15th 2010 by Will Harmon
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Never going to get anywhere either, playing right up the pointy end of the bow like that ...
# Posted on March 15th 2010 by Trevor Jennings
Re: What do you think of this other fiddle player?
I think hes good.... "that scrunchy noise" is called a tremello (classical term for it) and its used widely in irish trad fiddle playing. It gives the tune some colour and variation....
Frankie Gavin is the greatest fiddle player tho....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1EU4ipTkRg
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by yellowbellyfiddler
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Correction... He (Frankie) is one of the greatest!!!
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by yellowbellyfiddler
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A tremello eh? And they use it in classical music?
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by ...
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Ah, the wind up scalliwag reveals herself....
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by Will Harmon
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Well none of them holds a candle to our own Michael, Mr. Llig, featured here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEalSGtWp18
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by Will Harmon
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I really must shave that crap beard off
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by ...
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I dont know very much about classical music.. I play strictly trad but i do music for the leaving cert so i learned what a tremello is!! And OK its me!! :P
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by yellowbellyfiddler
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Yes, Rook, but did you find any good Klezmer tunes?
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by shanty
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The dots are plainly visible all over the place behind the set.
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by GaryAMartin
Re: What do you think of this other fiddle player?
You're wrong. The dots are inside his fiddle and he's obviously looking at them through the f-holes.
Btw, it's good in that video to see bowing that really is parallel to the bridge - an example to us all, and one of the secrets of his tone. Which reminds me of an intermediate standard fiddle player I saw at a workshop last year. She had evidently misunderstood this precept and thought it meant bowing parallel to the end of the fingerboard, which is true in the vast majority of cases; but in her case the end of the fingerboard was not parallel to the bridge and was cut away at quite an angle towards the G-string. The luthier's idea must have been that no-one ever puts their fingers down at the dusty end of the G-string so why have heavy fingerboard ebony in that area (not true actually - Bazzini's spectacular and notorious "La Ronde des Lutins" requires it, for one). Anyway, the lady's bowing was consistently parallel to the end of this particular fingerboard and so her tone was nowhere as good as it should have been. A certain English luthier has something to answer for
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by Trevor Jennings
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Perhaps he (the luthier) got a kickback from the local chiropractor.
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by SandyBottoms
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I always find that playing Bazzini's La Ronde des Lutins is a bit difficult on my usual fiddle. My fingers keep getting stuck in the powdered rosin that's been building up. Lucky I have a spare fiddle just for that piece.
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by ...
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I prefer to render Bazzini's La Ronde des Lutins on the tenor banjo with kazoo intermezzo.
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by RichardB
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I'm a big fan of Tommy Peoples myself. Sweet, laid back music with nice ornaments. Love his album with Kevin Crawford
But that's coming from a whistle player, so idk.
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by Red Crow
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Hey Shanty -
I did.
Here you go...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqsxxPnrDWk&feature=related
Think we can pull off a Johny Moynihan move, and drag this instrument into the Irish scene?
Loved this bit from himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQWLA2GHfO8
Loved this bit.
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by Piece
Re: What do you think of this other fiddle player?
hehe, Tommy only sounds laid back. Try playing a few strathspeys with him when he's in full swing. For the craic, see if you can fit in more ornaments than him
# Posted on March 16th 2010 by tradshark
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Rook - If it's Klezmer fiddle you're after, then this is hard to beat:
http://www.klezmershack.com/bands/svigals/fidl/svigals.fidl.html
There are some clips of her on 'the tube', but nothing that shows off what she's capable of.
# Posted on March 17th 2010 by CreadurMawnOrganig
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Hmmm. I thought April fools day was a couple of weeks off yet...
# Posted on March 17th 2010 by cboody
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Thanks everyone for the Klezmer clips. I've enjoyed greatly the little bit that I've been exposed to. So much good music...so little time!
# Posted on March 17th 2010 by shanty
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CreadurMawnOrganig:
Thanks for the link.
I have not had much time for the pursuit of other genres than Irish and related Scots lately, but when living in NYC I managed to get a toe damp with the klezmer scene. Brilliant stuff, some of it.
I use to try to catch the Klezmatics whenever possible, just a lovely band. Iilya is pretty impressive, too. Love the commissar look, too.
What manner of accordion is that he is wrestling with?
# Posted on March 17th 2010 by Piece
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Re Mr Peoples - I was delighted to see him go for that high c' with his little finger. I'd thought I was the only person to do that and that it was a bad habit! I'm still not as good as him though ... ... (sigh)
# Posted on March 17th 2010 by Ebor_fiddler
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Ebor:
Practice as much as Tommy, play as much, learn from the same musicians as he has, and, with a little luck, who knows -
give it thirty-forty years and it can happen.
Cheer up.
# Posted on March 19th 2010 by Piece
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The thing about Tommy is, he's got such a history in the music, the groups, the 70s etc and all of his accomplishments that even if you could play just like him, note for note, you still would not *be* Tommy Peoples.
Far better to take inspiration from him and polish your own style of playing. Become an excellent player for yourself, don't just work for years trying to be a clone of Tommy (or anyone else for that matter).
# Posted on March 19th 2010 by tradshark
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I checked out the documentary on youtube on Mr. Peoples, and one comment was dead-on target - on meeting him for the first time, one of his friends asked, "Who does he lay/sound like?" and the answer was, "He plays like Tommy Peoples."
Brilliant, and, hopefully, a lesson for us all.
# Posted on March 20th 2010 by Piece