I'm working on getting myself off the dots and learning strictly by ear and input from other players. Ah, the devil dots, they're like crack. Anyway, I'm sure I'll get some posts of approval on that.
In any case, I don't have a large collection of recordings on my computer, but it's growing as I search for recordings of tunes I've heard in session that I want to learn, or that I know I want to learn because it's a good staple tune, etc. Slowing tunes down in Quicktime seems to work well for learning tunes. Now, the catalog of recordings out there is enormous. What I would like input on is what kinds of recording should I be focusing on. That is to say, there are recordings of tunes with sparse instrumentation, or even just one melody instrument. There are recordings that have much richer instrumentation. There are recordings that offer a straighter "version" of a tune and ones that offer a great deal of coloration, sometimes even significant departures from more widely recognized settings, i.e. The Banshee done by a ceili group vs. by The Bothy Band.
While I'm sure I can potentially get a good array of opinions here, what types of recordings should I be focusing on?
Oh, and I am beginning to record sets at my local sessions with my mp3 recorder (with the permission of the players, of course), just in case anyone suggests that.
When I was starting to play this music, the most useful recording for me was Star Above the Garter. There are so many great tunes on that recording, and the playing on it is excellent. Its not fancy, just straight ahead Sliabh Lucra music.
Wow. This is some serious input already. Ask and ye shall receive. I'm going to give them a listen tonight. As well as anything else that gets posted. Seriously. Grand.
For "straight" versions at playable speed, it's hard to beat the Foinn Seisiún Cds, which are available for download from emusic.com and iTunes and probably free elsewhere.
Arcady's "Many Happy Returns", also available from the above sources, offers more whimsical versions of well-known "chestnuts"
Jimmy - you may already be aware of this, but there is a bounty of tunes available on iTunes these days. The benefit being, you can open an iTunes file in Quicktime and slow the speed down without losing the pitch. A great way to ear train and learn tunes quickly.
Yep, those Foinn Seisiún albums are definitely good for the vanilla versions of the essential tunes. I seriously recommend the CD 'Tunes for Practice' by Séamus Creagh.
I can spend hours - weeks - just trying to work out the exact phrasing and rhythm on a Jimmy Shand polka, which isn't quite rocket science, or even dart science, but still baffling to me, so probably not good to get *too* obsessed with recordings
I'm going to mention one more even though I agree completely about not getting too obsessed with recordings. Since I know you play mandolin now, here's a good mandolin player playing some standards as well as some of his own compositions:
Recording the tunes you hear at your session is excellent both because when you learn them, you'll be able to play them with others and also because if you are having trouble learning the tune, you can find someone to give you boost.
Great suggestions above ... may I add one more? Dennis Murphy's amazing performance of The Piper's Despair/Kennedy's Reel is now available on the CD 'The Milestone At The Garden' (I don't have it handy for reference, but search on Google and it's easily found). Dennis Murphy, as many here will know, was the brother of Mrs Julia Clifford (of 'The Star Above the Garter' fame, as mentioned above). Brother and sister were both exemplary fiddlers and repay study. Let their genius inspire you (it can be daunting ...). One tip, if you do search out the album ... Mr Murphy has his fiddle tuned down a tone (two half-steps) so the D string comes out as C. You will need a pitch shifter to play along (or tune down yourself), as well as slowing it down. Pure genius.
I 3rd... or 4th the Foinn CD's. The tune speeds are playable, and the versions used are the closest to "standard" settings, I have found in a tutorial level set.
I bought the dots and the CD's. I use dots, as Ive mentioned before like magazine reading.. fun to see how the person who bothered with the notation heard/saw the tune...I have enough experience however to know it's just dots, and since Ive heard many of the tunes in the bookset many times in sessions, its kind of fun to read the notes through... then my brain goes OH yeah.. then I remember it how I am used to hearing it and then Im only loosley following the dots asI play through several times on the fiddle... I like to think about the tune while I play sometimes, and the notes sometimes give me more to think about.
Here's the disclaimer:
Learning a tune you have never heard from "dots" is a complete waste of energy, time, and skill on your instrument, you'll only have to relearn the whole thing.... You are making a smart decision to train yourself away from them.
I don't find them terribly inspiring though.. (the Foinn recordings)but they are good to play along with. Get some Andy McGann recordings, I found him to be very inspiring, and he uses slightly more ornate settings, played pretty straight forward, not too many twiddly bits... as they say. I still love his playing. Learn some Ed Reavy tunes too, they are so busy and full of notes, ya don't need to heavily embellish them to feel like your having fun.
Jimmy
The best music that you should be learning tunes from is a recording that you absolutely love. Something that you could listen to literally thousands of times because the best way to learn a tune by ear is to 'know' it already. I bet you could pick out 'Jingle bells' right now on your instrument because you can sing it, you know how it goes, because you've heard it and sang it so many times.
The trick is to get some tunes into you to the same degree. If you can hum the tune, then you can find it on your instrument quite easily with some practise.
If you really have never tried it before the first tune will probably take you a long time. Don't try to digest the whole tune in one bite the first time. Listen to it until you can hum a fragment of it and then find that fragment on your instrument. There are 2 issues here actually. One is finding the fragment on your instrument and then repeating it enough times to remember it. You will find that you are forgetting a little piece that you just figured out and you'll have to find it again, possibly more than once while you sort of reconfigure your sequential memory a bit.
Build the whole tune fragment by fragment until you can play the whole thing, but, don't be surprised if you forget the whole darn thing the next day. If you do forget it, relearning it should go much more quickly than learning it the first time took.
What you go through learning your first tune in this way will make it easier for you to learn the next one. Not easy yet, but definitely easier. Once you have 8 to 10 tunes down, you should be feeling more comfortable with the process.
And I'll second Twisty's advice. Learn tunes that you really like. Don't learn tunes just because other people play them, unless you really want to join in. You'll just get sick of them after 1000 play-throughs. And bear in mind that often a night's sleep is needed for your brain to sort the information You might wake up one morning and find it has all fallen into place.
I'll second Twisty's advice also. But with one caveat ... On first hearing, I wasn't so keen on some of my favorite tunes to play. And some tunes I thought were great on first hearing, I got bored with very quickly.
I think it takes time to develop the skill of choosing the right tunes to lean. The right tunes for you that is. In the mean time, I don't think there is much wrong in learning tunes because others play them. Other people whose playing you admire that is. If a good player likes a particular tune and plays it often, trust them that it's a good tune, even if you can't hear it for yourself.
I think it's good too to think about learning tunes in sets [of some kind] if you can...that is, learning two or three tunes you like as per Llig's adivce above but also perhaps with an eye to linking those tunes together. Now again, as Llig says, if there's a strong player and he/she plays a couple tunes and if those tunes are a set...even better. It'll get you used to the idea and wean you away from just launching into one lone tune at a session which may or may not get you the evil eye. Players always appreciate some momentum.
Having said that, do pay some attention to what sets get played locally...the players will appreciate your interest and you'll learn much and it will cause you to wonder and learn [even if subliminally] why certain tunes seem to go well together.
It also helps develop "tune taste"...something I don't think we've ever really discussed in any deep way here have we on The Session? or only peripherally.
Thanks everyone. Turned into a wonderful thread and all input is appreciated. Twisty and llig - I hear you. Actually, the first tune I learned by ear, Blarney Pilgrim, was the one that told me it's what I should be doing. Granted Blarney is a very sing-songy jig that is probably alot easier to pick up than most other tunes, but that did it for me. I was using the dots as sort of a skeleton, or basis, and as someone else said, I've had to rework tunes like Wind That Shakes The Barley and Cooleys because some of the note sequences from the dots just didn't fit in at the session. Not a big deal with the mando, because I could easily bury myself in the mix, but when I played a much smaller session recently with but 4 or 5 players, it stood out much more and that pretty much clinched it. I think the only exception I can think of is Morrisons Jig, I got a playable setting of that one from the dots that worked well in-session, but that's the only one, but I'm realizing I could done that without the dots just as well. So, away with the dots, I say, I'm now a convert. Thanks all.
ps. I'm no huge fan of the Foinn Sessiuns cds but they have there usefullness.
Even better cds for learning [and they are in sets like the Foinn ones] in my opinion would be the ones done by Sheila Garry and Brid Crantich: there are several now. They have dot books too if you need them but I doubt you do.
"I was using the dots as sort of a skeleton, or basis, and as someone else said, I've had to rework tunes like Wind That Shakes The Barley and Cooleys because some of the note sequences from the dots just didn't fit in at the session."
Rework on the fly with your ears as your guides, we must do at all times!
Well, that was some seriously garbled Yoda-speak right there.
mtodd, you were right the first time -"they're called"
I like the advice given above; learn the tunes you like. Sure, it is nice to have several of the "standards" under your belt, but so much more rewarding on a personal level to play tunes you enjoy.
Good luck Jimmy. There's talk of a few tunes learning house sessions by ear over the next few weeks in our area. I'll make sure you are in the loop on them.
"Yoda's appearance was originally designed by British makeup artist Stuart Freeborn, who based Yoda's face partly on his own and partly on Albert Einstein's."
those comhaltas session CD things are pretty bad, they may be a fair representation of many sessions, ie they are lacking in character, impossibly dull and forgettable.
they are useful if you dont like learning from dots and cant find an alternative recording.... i use them as a last resort.
ok i'd better contribute something +ve
if you like slowing down to learn to, you should try
transcribe! or amazing slowdowner. both have much greater sensitivity and flexibility that quicktime.
Caveat: Be careful if you use you computer to slow recordings down. It also slows down the cuts and taps an other articulations that would not be slowed down if you merely played the tune slower.
I would suggest playing along with recordings of good Ceili Bands (eg Kilfenora, Glenside) - nice & solid, learn the tunes well with a good tempo before adding ornamentation
Recordings to practice to
Recordings to practice to
I'm working on getting myself off the dots and learning strictly by ear and input from other players. Ah, the devil dots, they're like crack. Anyway, I'm sure I'll get some posts of approval on that.
In any case, I don't have a large collection of recordings on my computer, but it's growing as I search for recordings of tunes I've heard in session that I want to learn, or that I know I want to learn because it's a good staple tune, etc. Slowing tunes down in Quicktime seems to work well for learning tunes. Now, the catalog of recordings out there is enormous. What I would like input on is what kinds of recording should I be focusing on. That is to say, there are recordings of tunes with sparse instrumentation, or even just one melody instrument. There are recordings that have much richer instrumentation. There are recordings that offer a straighter "version" of a tune and ones that offer a great deal of coloration, sometimes even significant departures from more widely recognized settings, i.e. The Banshee done by a ceili group vs. by The Bothy Band.
While I'm sure I can potentially get a good array of opinions here, what types of recordings should I be focusing on?
Oh, and I am beginning to record sets at my local sessions with my mp3 recorder (with the permission of the players, of course), just in case anyone suggests that.
Thanks in advance for any useful input.
# Posted on December 3rd 2009 by Jimmy B
Re: Recordings to practice to
When I was starting to play this music, the most useful recording for me was Star Above the Garter. There are so many great tunes on that recording, and the playing on it is excellent. Its not fancy, just straight ahead Sliabh Lucra music.
What instrument do you play, by the way?
# Posted on December 3rd 2009 by John Culhane
Re: Recordings to practice to
http://www.thesession.org/recordings/display/3225
# Posted on December 3rd 2009 by DaveL35
Re: Recordings to practice to
http://www.thesession.org/recordings/display/1949
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Kenny
Re: Recordings to practice to
tacoman - I play mandolin. Wanting to graduate to fiddle soon, but I'm waiting until I'm finished with studies next month.
Thanks tacoman and Dave. Both suggestions have very promising track lists. I will check them out.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Jimmy B
Re: Recordings to practice to
http://www.thesession.org/recordings/display/1952
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Kenny
Re: Recordings to practice to
Wow. This is some serious input already. Ask and ye shall receive. I'm going to give them a listen tonight. As well as anything else that gets posted. Seriously. Grand.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Jimmy B
Re: Recordings to practice to
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/21864/
http://www.thesession.org/recordings/display/208
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by ...
Re: Recordings to practice to
For "straight" versions at playable speed, it's hard to beat the Foinn Seisiún Cds, which are available for download from emusic.com and iTunes and probably free elsewhere.
Arcady's "Many Happy Returns", also available from the above sources, offers more whimsical versions of well-known "chestnuts"
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Bren
Re: Recordings to practice to
Jimmy - you may already be aware of this, but there is a bounty of tunes available on iTunes these days. The benefit being, you can open an iTunes file in Quicktime and slow the speed down without losing the pitch. A great way to ear train and learn tunes quickly.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Jusa Nutter Eejit
Re: Recordings to practice to
Yep, those Foinn Seisiún albums are definitely good for the vanilla versions of the essential tunes. I seriously recommend the CD 'Tunes for Practice' by Séamus Creagh.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Pat Mustard
Re: Recordings to practice to
I can spend hours - weeks - just trying to work out the exact phrasing and rhythm on a Jimmy Shand polka, which isn't quite rocket science, or even dart science, but still baffling to me, so probably not good to get *too* obsessed with recordings
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Bren
Re: Recordings to practice to
I'm going to mention one more even though I agree completely about not getting too obsessed with recordings. Since I know you play mandolin now, here's a good mandolin player playing some standards as well as some of his own compositions:
http://www.thesession.org/recordings/display/659
Recording the tunes you hear at your session is excellent both because when you learn them, you'll be able to play them with others and also because if you are having trouble learning the tune, you can find someone to give you boost.
Good luck.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by John Culhane
Re: Recordings to practice to
Great suggestions above ... may I add one more? Dennis Murphy's amazing performance of The Piper's Despair/Kennedy's Reel is now available on the CD 'The Milestone At The Garden' (I don't have it handy for reference, but search on Google and it's easily found). Dennis Murphy, as many here will know, was the brother of Mrs Julia Clifford (of 'The Star Above the Garter' fame, as mentioned above). Brother and sister were both exemplary fiddlers and repay study. Let their genius inspire you (it can be daunting ...). One tip, if you do search out the album ... Mr Murphy has his fiddle tuned down a tone (two half-steps) so the D string comes out as C. You will need a pitch shifter to play along (or tune down yourself), as well as slowing it down. Pure genius.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Jim Younger
Re: Recordings to practice to
Mandolin? Try this site:
http://www.paythereckoning.com/thepage.htm
and for learning tunes in general,
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tradlessons#g/u
they're accessible, they're free!
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by oldstrings
Re: Foinn Seisun CDs
Following up on Bren's post...
You can listen to individual tunes from the Foinn Seisun CDs online at the Comhaltas website. Here are the links:
http://comhaltas.ie/shop/detail/foinn_seisiun_book_volume_1/
http://comhaltas.ie/shop/detail/foinn_seisiun_book_volume_2/
http://comhaltas.ie/shop/detail/foinn_seisiun_3/
Hope that helps!
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by The David Dude
Re: Recordings to practice to
I 3rd... or 4th the Foinn CD's. The tune speeds are playable, and the versions used are the closest to "standard" settings, I have found in a tutorial level set.
I bought the dots and the CD's. I use dots, as Ive mentioned before like magazine reading.. fun to see how the person who bothered with the notation heard/saw the tune...I have enough experience however to know it's just dots, and since Ive heard many of the tunes in the bookset many times in sessions, its kind of fun to read the notes through... then my brain goes OH yeah.. then I remember it how I am used to hearing it and then Im only loosley following the dots asI play through several times on the fiddle... I like to think about the tune while I play sometimes, and the notes sometimes give me more to think about.
Here's the disclaimer:
Learning a tune you have never heard from "dots" is a complete waste of energy, time, and skill on your instrument, you'll only have to relearn the whole thing.... You are making a smart decision to train yourself away from them.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by SandyBottoms
Re: Recordings to practice to
I don't find them terribly inspiring though.. (the Foinn recordings)but they are good to play along with. Get some Andy McGann recordings, I found him to be very inspiring, and he uses slightly more ornate settings, played pretty straight forward, not too many twiddly bits... as they say. I still love his playing. Learn some Ed Reavy tunes too, they are so busy and full of notes, ya don't need to heavily embellish them to feel like your having fun.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by SandyBottoms
Re: Recordings to practice to
Charlie and Jack Coen - the original Coen brothers - made a record called the Branch Line. That's your one.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Jon Kiparsky
Re: Recordings to practice to
Jimmy
The best music that you should be learning tunes from is a recording that you absolutely love. Something that you could listen to literally thousands of times because the best way to learn a tune by ear is to 'know' it already. I bet you could pick out 'Jingle bells' right now on your instrument because you can sing it, you know how it goes, because you've heard it and sang it so many times.
The trick is to get some tunes into you to the same degree. If you can hum the tune, then you can find it on your instrument quite easily with some practise.
If you really have never tried it before the first tune will probably take you a long time. Don't try to digest the whole tune in one bite the first time. Listen to it until you can hum a fragment of it and then find that fragment on your instrument. There are 2 issues here actually. One is finding the fragment on your instrument and then repeating it enough times to remember it. You will find that you are forgetting a little piece that you just figured out and you'll have to find it again, possibly more than once while you sort of reconfigure your sequential memory a bit.
Build the whole tune fragment by fragment until you can play the whole thing, but, don't be surprised if you forget the whole darn thing the next day. If you do forget it, relearning it should go much more quickly than learning it the first time took.
What you go through learning your first tune in this way will make it easier for you to learn the next one. Not easy yet, but definitely easier. Once you have 8 to 10 tunes down, you should be feeling more comfortable with the process.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Twisty
Re: Recordings to practice to
I second The Branch Line by Jack and Charlie Coen. Great tunes at a steady pace.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by minijackpot
Re: Recordings to practice to
And I'll second Twisty's advice. Learn tunes that you really like. Don't learn tunes just because other people play them, unless you really want to join in. You'll just get sick of them after 1000 play-throughs. And bear in mind that often a night's sleep is needed for your brain to sort the information You might wake up one morning and find it has all fallen into place.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by gam
Re: Recordings to practice to
I'll second Twisty's advice also. But with one caveat ... On first hearing, I wasn't so keen on some of my favorite tunes to play. And some tunes I thought were great on first hearing, I got bored with very quickly.
I think it takes time to develop the skill of choosing the right tunes to lean. The right tunes for you that is. In the mean time, I don't think there is much wrong in learning tunes because others play them. Other people whose playing you admire that is. If a good player likes a particular tune and plays it often, trust them that it's a good tune, even if you can't hear it for yourself.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by ...
Re: Recordings to practice to
I think it's good too to think about learning tunes in sets [of some kind] if you can...that is, learning two or three tunes you like as per Llig's adivce above but also perhaps with an eye to linking those tunes together. Now again, as Llig says, if there's a strong player and he/she plays a couple tunes and if those tunes are a set...even better. It'll get you used to the idea and wean you away from just launching into one lone tune at a session which may or may not get you the evil eye. Players always appreciate some momentum.
Having said that, do pay some attention to what sets get played locally...the players will appreciate your interest and you'll learn much and it will cause you to wonder and learn [even if subliminally] why certain tunes seem to go well together.
It also helps develop "tune taste"...something I don't think we've ever really discussed in any deep way here have we on The Session? or only peripherally.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by skin&bow
Re: Recordings to practice to
Thanks everyone. Turned into a wonderful thread and all input is appreciated. Twisty and llig - I hear you. Actually, the first tune I learned by ear, Blarney Pilgrim, was the one that told me it's what I should be doing. Granted Blarney is a very sing-songy jig that is probably alot easier to pick up than most other tunes, but that did it for me. I was using the dots as sort of a skeleton, or basis, and as someone else said, I've had to rework tunes like Wind That Shakes The Barley and Cooleys because some of the note sequences from the dots just didn't fit in at the session. Not a big deal with the mando, because I could easily bury myself in the mix, but when I played a much smaller session recently with but 4 or 5 players, it stood out much more and that pretty much clinched it. I think the only exception I can think of is Morrisons Jig, I got a playable setting of that one from the dots that worked well in-session, but that's the only one, but I'm realizing I could done that without the dots just as well. So, away with the dots, I say, I'm now a convert. Thanks all.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Jimmy B
Re: Recordings to practice to
ps. I'm no huge fan of the Foinn Sessiuns cds but they have there usefullness.
Even better cds for learning [and they are in sets like the Foinn ones] in my opinion would be the ones done by Sheila Garry and Brid Crantich: there are several now. They have dot books too if you need them but I doubt you do.
they're called Irish Session Tunes
http://www.folkmusic.net/htmfiles/webrevs/osscd132.htm
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by skin&bow
Re: Recordings to practice to
sorry, "their"
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by skin&bow
Re: Recordings to practice to
"I was using the dots as sort of a skeleton, or basis, and as someone else said, I've had to rework tunes like Wind That Shakes The Barley and Cooleys because some of the note sequences from the dots just didn't fit in at the session."
Rework on the fly with your ears as your guides, we must do at all times!
Well, that was some seriously garbled Yoda-speak right there.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Recordings to practice to
For nine hundred years on the fly I have reworked.
Yes, let your ears guide you. You will learn why large ears have I?
http://guff.zensoft.net/yoda.jpg
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by ...
Re: Recordings to practice to
That's much better, going to leave that to you from now on!
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Recordings to practice to
mtodd, you were right the first time -"they're called"
I like the advice given above; learn the tunes you like. Sure, it is nice to have several of the "standards" under your belt, but so much more rewarding on a personal level to play tunes you enjoy.
Good luck Jimmy. There's talk of a few tunes learning house sessions by ear over the next few weeks in our area. I'll make sure you are in the loop on them.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Jusa Nutter Eejit
Re: Recordings to practice to
Thanks JNE. Keep me in the loop.
I hear you on playing tunes I like. Sure I want to know the standards, but I'm starting with the standards I like. Two birds with one stone.
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by Jimmy B
Re: Recordings to practice to
"Yoda's appearance was originally designed by British makeup artist Stuart Freeborn, who based Yoda's face partly on his own and partly on Albert Einstein's."
(from that ultimately reliable Wiki-source thing)
# Posted on December 4th 2009 by domhnall.
Re: Recordings to practice to
ah...the circle ---complete it is -------------
fiddle-----Einstein-----Yoda----------Llig-----fiddle----
-
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/06/22/Einstein_070621120740126_wideweb__300x375.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.smh.com.au/news/book-reviews/einstein-his-life-and-universe/2007/06/22/1182019350450.html&usg=__JC_F_tL7M2coN9gkpRRNKXElYJI=&h=375&w=300&sz=33&hl=en&start=53&itbs=1&tbnid=gC6v5HE5b14wrM:&tbnh=122&tbnw=98&prev=/images%3Fq%3Deinstein%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D21%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D42
# Posted on December 5th 2009 by domhnall.
Re: Recordings to practice to
those comhaltas session CD things are pretty bad, they may be a fair representation of many sessions, ie they are lacking in character, impossibly dull and forgettable.
they are useful if you dont like learning from dots and cant find an alternative recording.... i use them as a last resort.
# Posted on December 5th 2009 by rumpole
Re: Recordings to practice to
ok i'd better contribute something +ve
if you like slowing down to learn to, you should try
transcribe! or amazing slowdowner. both have much greater sensitivity and flexibility that quicktime.
# Posted on December 5th 2009 by rumpole
Re: Recordings to practice to
transcribe rocks..unlimited potential for tune learning
# Posted on December 5th 2009 by Miss Mulligan
Re: Recordings to practice to
Caveat: Be careful if you use you computer to slow recordings down. It also slows down the cuts and taps an other articulations that would not be slowed down if you merely played the tune slower.
# Posted on December 5th 2009 by ...
Re: Recordings to practice to
Tunes for Practice by Seamus Creagh http://www.tunesforpractice.com/
# Posted on December 7th 2009 by Nfg
Re: Recordings to practice to
I would suggest playing along with recordings of good Ceili Bands (eg Kilfenora, Glenside) - nice & solid, learn the tunes well with a good tempo before adding ornamentation
# Posted on December 7th 2009 by The Archivist