Johnny Ringo McDonnagh Allec Finn Donal Lunny are often refered to as legendary traditional musicians . Should they not be considered backing musicians since they never have to learn or play a tune.
If hungover, try chicken/beef stock, it replenishes both water and mineral content pretty quickly. Drink a lot of water. You should be back on track by early afternoon.
Contrary to popular belief, dairy products (like kefir or youghurt) give only a feeling of refreshment for a short time, actually lying heavy on the stomach afterwards.
A familiarity with the subject would a nice start before waxing critical of another musician or musicians.
That, and proper spelling - it makes you comments a bit more plausible to the masses.
I remember watching a documentary once about India where there was a scene that showed lots of stray dogs scavenging on a rubbish dump. Suddenly they all turned on another dog who had recently joined them and tore the poor sod apart. It's was horrible.....Now I wonder what brought that to mind?
Johnny McDonnagh Percussionist.
Donal Lunny Accompanist.
Alec Finn Accompanist.
Brilliant musicians in their field. It was never a requirement that they had to learn or play a tune.
If you are doing accompaniment you are accompaning the tune there for some one is playing the tune.
If no one is playing the tune then there is no accompaniment .
( no idea where we are going with this )
If you have listened to Alec Finn playing with de Dannan, or on other projects like the Mary Bergin CDs, and think that AF doesn't know the tunes then IMO you've not really been listening.
I'm certain I've heard Donal Lunny play many many tunes, yes I mean the melody. Bouzouki players tend to start playing chords after many musicians have joined in because their instrument isn't loud enough to play straight melody over 3 fiddles, a set of pipes, a flautist and a banjo player.
A little experiment . listening to Mary Bergins cd. Remove the whistle track, listen to Alec Finn bazouki track on its own. Now tell me what tune is being played. Where can I get a solo bazouki cd with guitar accompaniment or where can I get a solo badhran cd with piano accompaniment using nice chords.
Why are people trying to degrade Allec Finn Donal Lunny Johnny McDonnagh Steve Cooney Artie McGlynn just because they are not lead musicians but are the most briliant accompanists of our time.
weigh twitchers? Is that like really really boring bird watchers who are not content to merely tick rare birds off a list, but they have to get them on the bathroom scales too? Sounds like they deserve being eaten.
This discussion reminds me of the scene from "Love At First Bite" where Count Dracula makes the mistake of feeding on a homeless man who is a wino and the wino's blood makes Count Dracula drunk.
We now know a little bit about the people who use this web site. Not much to do with music as I had guessed. Jim Sweeney only knew two parts of "Colonel Frazer " on the bodhran but he could play the whole tune on the spoons.
All this reminds me of the time in my youth when I associated with a British Legion marching band. The cymbals player was an artist but the triangle player was, frankly, pedestrian.
Badhran Player or musician
Badhran Player or musician
Johnny Ringo McDonnagh Allec Finn Donal Lunny are often refered to as legendary traditional musicians . Should they not be considered backing musicians since they never have to learn or play a tune.
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Lord Gordan
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Oh please!!
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Craymcla
Re: Badhran Player or musician
If hungover, try chicken/beef stock, it replenishes both water and mineral content pretty quickly. Drink a lot of water. You should be back on track by early afternoon.
Contrary to popular belief, dairy products (like kefir or youghurt) give only a feeling of refreshment for a short time, actually lying heavy on the stomach afterwards.
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Janek
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Now there is some useful information!
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by leoj
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Who is Johnny Ringo McDonnagh and Allec Finn I know Donal Lunny
Maybe you mean Johnny Ringo McDonagh and Alec Finn now theres two fine musicians
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by glengarslasher
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Don't encourage him.
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by gam
Re: Badhran Player or musician
I think you'll find Donal Lunny and Alec Finn can both play tunes, and do ,on many of their recordings.
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Conán McDonnell
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A familiarity with the subject would a nice start before waxing critical of another musician or musicians.
That, and proper spelling - it makes you comments a bit more plausible to the masses.
Good luck, Luard Girden.
Chairs,
Ruuk
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Piece
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# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Piece
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Muppet.
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Dragut Reis
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I remember watching a documentary once about India where there was a scene that showed lots of stray dogs scavenging on a rubbish dump. Suddenly they all turned on another dog who had recently joined them and tore the poor sod apart. It's was horrible.....Now I wonder what brought that to mind?
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Free Reed
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Hee hee!
All the lousy accompanists on this planet and you pick THOSE GUYS to beat on?
I may go back to bed and try to dream about this.
"So I was the only melody player and I was surrounded by the likes of..."
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Bad Hran. Ha ha.
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Henk Bos
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Totally reminded me of: "Oh yeah man, we're musicians too man, we play the badran!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gnNbEXdRgU
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Badhran Player or musician
what is that movie? looks interesting, I can't find it anywhere
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Earl Cameron
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Bodhran players aren't musicians full stop
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by tradladman
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Johnny McDonnagh Percussionist.
Donal Lunny Accompanist.
Alec Finn Accompanist.
Brilliant musicians in their field. It was never a requirement that they had to learn or play a tune.
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Lord Gordan
Re: Badhran Player or musician
requirement ?
Who decided what a requirement was ? is ?
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by bazouki dave
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Do we really need this on a Sunday evening???
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by seaniemcg
Re: Badhran Player or musician
If you are doing accompaniment you dont need to know a tune but you would have to find someone who does know a tune.
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Lord Gordan
Re: Badhran Player or musician
If you are doing accompaniment you are accompaning the tune there for some one is playing the tune.
If no one is playing the tune then there is no accompaniment .
( no idea where we are going with this )
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by bazouki dave
Re: Badhran Player or musician
If you have listened to Alec Finn playing with de Dannan, or on other projects like the Mary Bergin CDs, and think that AF doesn't know the tunes then IMO you've not really been listening.
- chris
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by ramblingpitchfork
Re: Badhran Player or musician
When or where have I said that Alec Finn does not know tunes
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Lord Gordan
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Sorry then but I dont understand the point of this thread .
Could you be more clear about what you are trying to say.
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by bazouki dave
Re: Badhran Player or musician
I'm certain I've heard Donal Lunny play many many tunes, yes I mean the melody. Bouzouki players tend to start playing chords after many musicians have joined in because their instrument isn't loud enough to play straight melody over 3 fiddles, a set of pipes, a flautist and a banjo player.
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Earl Cameron
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Oh that clip where the three drummers play to the slow air at the session is hilarious
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by Earl Cameron
and the others are not ?
# Posted on November 22nd 2009 by bazouki dave
Re: Badhran Player or musician
A little experiment . listening to Mary Bergins cd. Remove the whistle track, listen to Alec Finn bazouki track on its own. Now tell me what tune is being played. Where can I get a solo bazouki cd with guitar accompaniment or where can I get a solo badhran cd with piano accompaniment using nice chords.
# Posted on November 23rd 2009 by Lord Gordan
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Why are people trying to degrade Allec Finn Donal Lunny Johnny McDonnagh Steve Cooney Artie McGlynn just because they are not lead musicians but are the most briliant accompanists of our time.
# Posted on November 23rd 2009 by Lord Gordan
Re: Badhran Player or musician
"Where can I get a solo bazouki cd with guitar accompaniment "
Try Roger Landes' 'Dragon Reels' or Joseph Sobel's 'Citternalia', and then tell us that bazouki players can't play melodies.
A lot of Robin Bullock's earlier work would also fit the bill.
# Posted on November 23rd 2009 by jeff_willner
Re: Badhran Player or musician
"where can I get a solo badhran cd with piano accompaniment using nice chords"
Yes, I want this too, please.
# Posted on November 23rd 2009 by Hugo Chavez
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzE439U5iMI
# Posted on November 23rd 2009 by Ramiro
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Dodger, what were you on?
Do you share?
Pass it around, dude - I'll bring the munchies,
and the Scrabble board.
Sincerely,
# Posted on November 23rd 2009 by Piece
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Lads don't take the bait.. Methinks Mr Gordon is only looking for a rise out of people...
# Posted on November 23rd 2009 by mumhain abu
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Earl, that clip is from The Boys and Girls of County Clare:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0337631/
# Posted on November 23rd 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Badhran Player or musician
What kind of an eejit starts a discussion based on bodhráns with the word bodhrán spelled incorrectly and then spells alec with two lls?? muppet
# Posted on November 23rd 2009 by Ringo's ring
Re: Badhran Player or musician
No worries, Dodger - Just making with the chit-chat,
so to speak.
Fair winds to you, matey.
# Posted on November 23rd 2009 by Piece
Re: Badhran Player or musician
I am sure you meant bodhrani . bodhrans is a rare flower found only in South America. buchalani can be found in northern Europe.
# Posted on November 24th 2009 by Lord Gordan
Re: Badhran Player or musician
I think Dodge is Llig in heavy disguise.
# Posted on November 24th 2009 by suesinger
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ha ha, Except that it's much much better to serve at the heaven of traditional Irish diddley tunes than to reign at the hell of the bodhran.
Besides, the rich taste horrible. I've tried them. They're horrible
# Posted on November 24th 2009 by ...
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Rich people are high in cholesterol, Llig.
Eat the homeless - Dine Alfresco!!
# Posted on November 24th 2009 by Piece
Re: Badhran Player or musician
weigh twitchers? Is that like really really boring bird watchers who are not content to merely tick rare birds off a list, but they have to get them on the bathroom scales too? Sounds like they deserve being eaten.
# Posted on November 24th 2009 by ...
Re: Badhran Player or musician
"Besides, the rich taste horrible."
Yeah. Metallic.
# Posted on November 24th 2009 by CreadurMawnOrganig
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Come on guys, have you ever eaten a homeless person? Ya minus well try getting meat from a twig. Give me a portly aristocrat any day. Mmm-mmm.
# Posted on November 24th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Badhran Player or musician
I ate a homeless person once (lets face it, he wasn't gonna be missed), too gritty.
Has anyone tried paté de alcoholic's liver?
# Posted on November 24th 2009 by ...
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Inded i have, it was so nice i wrote a reel about it.
the humours of tumours, i'll post it when i get a chance
# Posted on November 25th 2009 by rumpole
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there was also a night when a homeless person ate me, but thats another story........
# Posted on November 25th 2009 by rumpole
Re: Badhran Player or musician
This discussion reminds me of the scene from "Love At First Bite" where Count Dracula makes the mistake of feeding on a homeless man who is a wino and the wino's blood makes Count Dracula drunk.
# Posted on November 25th 2009 by fauxcelt
Re: Badhran Player or musician
I actually prefer to give homeless vegetables a place to stay in my stomach.
# Posted on November 25th 2009 by fauxcelt
Re: Badhran Player or musician
We now know a little bit about the people who use this web site. Not much to do with music as I had guessed. Jim Sweeney only knew two parts of "Colonel Frazer " on the bodhran but he could play the whole tune on the spoons.
# Posted on November 25th 2009 by Lord Gordan
Re: Badhran Player or musician
All this reminds me of the time in my youth when I associated with a British Legion marching band. The cymbals player was an artist but the triangle player was, frankly, pedestrian.
# Posted on November 25th 2009 by Guernsey Pete
Re: Badhran Player or musician
You had a pedestrian in your marching band??
# Posted on November 25th 2009 by ...
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Perhaps 'tis time to walk away from this one?
At the quick march?
# Posted on November 25th 2009 by Piece
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Good bye so.
# Posted on November 25th 2009 by Lord Gordan
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Goodnight room.
# Posted on November 25th 2009 by Guernsey Pete
Re: Badhran Player or musician
Oh, llig, what did you think we had, unicyclists ?
# Posted on November 25th 2009 by Guernsey Pete