Form 696 was an idea of the Metropolitan Police Force. It is yet another measure which views all live music and all musicians as being a risk to society.
Sadly, many London Council's have adopted this form and included it in their Statements of Licensing Policy. This means that any licensee who does not fill in Form 696 is in breach of their licence and could lose it.
Hmm. Unlike many of our government and quango people, the policeman (Det. Sup. Isles) probably knows at first hand, or at any rate reliably, some of the things that go on at the sharp end - in this case, the gang warfare that has presumably manifested itself at certain gigs. And if consistently more of this happens at certain (mainly) black gigs, there's no point in pretending it doesn't and a lot of sense in telling the police when they're going to happen.
For Nicholas
"the policeman (Det. Sup. Isles) probably knows at first hand, or at any rate reliably" - so if he doesn't know at first hand how can one mans word be reliable enough to justify the persecution of live music with this crazy law?????
" the gang warfare that has presumably manifested itself at certain gigs" - who’s presumption is this to justify these crazy laws????
"And if consistently more of this happens at certain (mainly) black gigs" - Rascist motive for new crazy laws???
I cannot agree with these laws as there is no clear justification for their enactment other than control/racsism.
Prime example of how the World is heading . Stand up for your rights.
Press up your brown uniform as it won't be long before we're all wearing them!
Maybe we should split the world in two sections, one for the folks that think this type of legislation is good for society and one for those that think it bad.
Whether you think Form 696 is a good idea or not - the issue here remains a simple one.
We are either ruled by the will of our elected Parliament, as expressed on this issue by the all-party Select Committee who have now quite clearly recommended that Form 696 be scrapped, or we are ruled by something else.
When the law becomes in effect what those paid to enforce it, wish it to be, it would be described, anywhere else in the world, as being a police state.
For information - The Select Committee's findings were published after this E petition was started.
Please help to scrap Form 696
Please help to scrap Form 696
Form 696 was an idea of the Metropolitan Police Force. It is yet another measure which views all live music and all musicians as being a risk to society.
Sadly, many London Council's have adopted this form and included it in their Statements of Licensing Policy. This means that any licensee who does not fill in Form 696 is in breach of their licence and could lose it.
A Parlimentary Select Committee has recently recommended that Form 696 be scrapped but the Government have ignored this. http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/46280
This link will show more detail.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7763069.stm
And this is where you can show your opinion. Please sign and circulate. http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Scrapthe696/
Many thanks
# Posted on July 29th 2009 by Roger Gall
Re: Please help to scrap Form 696
Are there figures on how many times this has been used to stop or prevent such events?
# Posted on July 29th 2009 by Joe Wass
Re: Please help to scrap Form 696
Hmm. Unlike many of our government and quango people, the policeman (Det. Sup. Isles) probably knows at first hand, or at any rate reliably, some of the things that go on at the sharp end - in this case, the gang warfare that has presumably manifested itself at certain gigs. And if consistently more of this happens at certain (mainly) black gigs, there's no point in pretending it doesn't and a lot of sense in telling the police when they're going to happen.
# Posted on July 29th 2009 by nicholas
Re: Please help to scrap Form 696
For Nicholas
"the policeman (Det. Sup. Isles) probably knows at first hand, or at any rate reliably" - so if he doesn't know at first hand how can one mans word be reliable enough to justify the persecution of live music with this crazy law?????
" the gang warfare that has presumably manifested itself at certain gigs" - who’s presumption is this to justify these crazy laws????
"And if consistently more of this happens at certain (mainly) black gigs" - Rascist motive for new crazy laws???
I cannot agree with these laws as there is no clear justification for their enactment other than control/racsism.
Prime example of how the World is heading . Stand up for your rights.
# Posted on July 29th 2009 by Banjo Bobb
Re: Please help to scrap Form 696
Press up your brown uniform as it won't be long before we're all wearing them!
Maybe we should split the world in two sections, one for the folks that think this type of legislation is good for society and one for those that think it bad.
Peace,
Ed
# Posted on July 29th 2009 by ejsant
Re: Please help to scrap Form 696
Whether you think Form 696 is a good idea or not - the issue here remains a simple one.
We are either ruled by the will of our elected Parliament, as expressed on this issue by the all-party Select Committee who have now quite clearly recommended that Form 696 be scrapped, or we are ruled by something else.
When the law becomes in effect what those paid to enforce it, wish it to be, it would be described, anywhere else in the world, as being a police state.
For information - The Select Committee's findings were published after this E petition was started.
# Posted on July 29th 2009 by Roger Gall
Re: Please help to scrap Form 696
Link to the Culture Media & Sport Committee Licensing Act 2003 report (PDF file 2.42Mb, see pp27-32):
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmselect/cmcumeds/492/492.pdf
# Posted on July 29th 2009 by Roger Gall
Re: Please help to scrap Form 696
Good on you, Roger, couldn't have put it better myself.
# Posted on July 29th 2009 by strayaway
Re: Please help to scrap Form 696
The Chairman of the Select Committee is not happy.
http://www.thestage.co.uk/news/newsstory.php/25147/whittingdale-lambasts-whitehalls-rejection
# Posted on July 29th 2009 by Roger Gall