Released in 1972 on the Leader label, this is a wonderful collection of tunes from South Sligo, featuring musicians such as Fred Finn, Peter Horan, Andrew Davey, John O'Gara and Séamus Tansey.
It's another one of those missing Bulmer-acquired Leader releases and has never been reissued exactly as it was on CD, though a 2001 release did include most of the tracks, all of which were interspersed with some caustic Tansey comments.
I'm not putting the link up for general download. Please send me a PM if you'd like a copy.
Yes that sounds very interesting, Do you know the recording;'' the sound of Coleman country? trk 11 has certain Shane MacGowan playing guitar with Seamus O'donnell. Thats not 'The' Shane MacGowan is it?
OK, some wise guy has cracked my MediaFire page and already downloaded this file (and clearly told others about the link from the number of downloads). As a result, I've deleted it and the McCuskers as well.
I'll upload the MfCC file again elsewhere. This will take some time, so be please be patient if you've sent me a PM requesting it.
I thought the CD "Revisited" release included all the tracks from the original, plus the additional track of Johnny "Watt" Henry's playing and Tansey's commentary? Certainly my MP3 rip of the CD appears to have all the tracks Kenny listed as being on the original album.
Just thought I'd remind you of your comment the other day Floss when a poster was a bit put out about not being able to watch BBC iPlayer outside the UK. I quote;
"TV-owning residents of the UK have to purchase a licence at a cost of £142.50 p.a to watch programmes legally. One of the BBC's major sources of income is the sale of its programmes to TV companies in other territories. Apart from some State support, these two combined factors provide the bulk of the BBC's funding to make its programmes.
The same situation applies to Ireland (where the licence fee is €160) which is why I, for one, get somewhat peeved when people such as the owner of this site publish here ways to bypass the system."
So you reckon uploading CD's for people to download (even though the tracks are on a re-issue) is OK, but we should spare a thought for the poor auld BBC license fee payers?
Give us a break before you get all sanctimonious the next time there Floss.
Here's a link to the discussion referred to earlier if anyone is interested in a fairly ludicrous display of hypocrisy.
Launch Firefox
Click Tools - Options (or Preferences on Mac)
Click 'Advanced' on the top menu
Choose the 'Network' tab and click on 'Settings...'
Choose 'Manual Proxy Configuration:'
Insert the ip address and port number for the proxy server.
e.g. 79.125.7.60, port 80
I hope one of your minions managed to assist you in dismounting from your high horse. For the record, there is absolutely nothing sanctimonious or hypocritical about my position regarding TV licensing or downloads.
The licensing issue is straightforward. I was simply pointing out that state-funded broadcasting services are largely dependent upon the licensing fees paid by TV owners within their boundaries and that advertising proxy servers to circumvent restrictions those services have put in place is detrimental to their finances.
Then you write this:
'So you reckon uploading CD's for people to download (even though the tracks are on a re-issue) is OK, but we should spare a thought for the poor auld BBC license fee payers?'
Firstly, I have not uploaded a CD. It was a copy of the original vinyl album (and a much better one than that accessible from the link provided by gravelwalks).
The links I've provided on this board to uploads have been almost entirely related to out of copyright material. I've made two exceptions, 'Maiden Voyage' and 'Music from Coleman Country'. Both of these albums were released on the Celtic Music label, owned by the insidious Dave Bulmer (check Mudcat, if you've time, for details of his nefarious business activities). I made them available here knowing full well that absolutely none of the musicians who were recorded would be even one cent worse off as a result of my doing so. I'll make more available too once I have the time.
So, there you go, T (whose flesh, I presume, is the pristine pink of a neonate).
Thanks to the many people who sent me messages requesting the Sligo file. I won't be uploading it again since a link to the album, albeit of inferior quality, has been posted.
And, thanks to T's insinuations, I'm very much in two minds as to whether I should make available any more recordings.
Great Stuff Floss! Please continue to make available these excellent recordings to music lovers everywhere.
T - What a load of Krap!...Get off your high donkey!
"One of the BBC's major sources of income is the sale of its programmes to TV companies in other territories"..The BBC blasts a strong signal of ALL their excellent channels Free to air viewable over all these islands and most of mainland Europe... I know this myself because I have watched the BBC FTA on the French Med coast with the tiny Lidl camping satellite dish. I just wish our own RTE and TG4 would do the same. Rte Player is very good and I think it should be available to all especially the huge Irish ex Pat community."
Incidentally, I have some of these old recordings on vinyl but having no turntable and I'm not going to buy a USB turntable to convert a few LPs so I appreciate when somebody actually makes these available to me again in digital format.
What you are doing IS hypocritical if you want to act all high and mighty about the BBC license fee and proxy servers, which I should add, I haven't used.
If you're going to get on your high horse (you got up there first sonny, its your horse!) about proxy servers and then upload CD's, you risk sounding sanctimonious and looking like a hypocrite.
If you don't see the contradiction in what your saying in and then doing, it might be something more severe than hypocrisy that's ailing ya!
Its always boring and unhelpful when otherwise interesting threads get hijacked by moral high-grounders like yourself Floss. You were the first one to mention proxy servers and get preachy on the other thread, this was all in an unwarranted response to another poster being frustrated at not being able to watch a concert.
You are acting in a hypocritical manner Floss, i.e. you are a hypocrite, and even more so if you try and justify what you're doing with some weak argument about the bona fides of a royalty agreement...
If the CD's are covered by copyright, you shouldn't be uploading them. How does that sound to you?
(Great view form up here on the auld moral high ground, do I remember a time, not so long ago, when Floss preached down to us from up here ???.........)
You're a far more knowledgable person when it comes to morality than I am. Remind me, which cult worships you? I can't seen anything in your biography to encourage me to further exploration of your philosophy. In fact I can't see anything at all and I presume you've chosen you're mono-consonantal name to prevent anyone finding you here.
'What you are doing IS hypocritical if you want to act all high and mighty about the BBC license fee and proxy servers, which I should add, I haven't used.'
That'll be 'licence', by the way. I'm not acting 'high and mighty', just pointing out that it's not exactly advisable for a moderator of a site such as this to offend those members who have to pay their local licence fees or suggest means of circumventing international law.
But, since you're so intent on revealing my 'hypocrisy', let me put this question to you.
I've only made available an upload of one CD to this site, 'Maiden Voyage'. The second Celtic Music upload I withdrew, very rapidly after posting it (because some techno wizards had cracked my MediaFire page). was a copy of the original vinyl version of 'Music from Coleman Country'.
Both of these albums were released by Celtic Music, a label notorious for its failure to pay fees, let alone royalties, and also for the way it acquired the Leader catalogue and then did nothing with it. You describe my making available these recordings as 'with some weak argument about the bona fides of a royalty agreement'. Well, if you believe that, after reading the information I suggested you check on Mudcat, you're in a league of one, but I suspect that's a place you often find yourself.
I'll continue to make recordings available to members of The Session and I'll continue to make an exception when it comes to copyright for the releases of the Celtic Music label, but, since you know nothing about this I'll presume that you'll keep your clearly vacuous gob shut!
"That'll be 'licence', by the way. I'm not acting 'high and mighty', just pointing out that it's not exactly advisable for a moderator of a site such as this to offend those members who have to pay their local licence fees or suggest means of circumventing international law."
Flossy, don't try and capture the high-ground on spelling now as well, here's a lesson for ya
British Spelling U.S spelling
licence(noun)/license(verb) license(noun + verb)
offence offense
defence defense
yoghurt yogurt
colour color
hypocrite hypocrite
Now, you've made your concern for the BBC clear, so you've obviously aligned yourself to the British model, but on a far reaching website such as this I'm sure you'll find advocates of both U.S and British spelling. This site even makes uses of a U.S spell check. Test it out there Flossy!
There is also a law of copyright, and if you are going to base your judgments on when to infringe it on the character of one person, don't assume everyone else can follow the intricacies of your value system.
I don't know the scruples of every record executive in the world, but going by your nonsense, if they are questionable people, I can ignore the copyright? Does that apply just to copyright, or can we decide when to bypass the law in other situations. I'd be interested to hear you explain this because I go to this café where the owner is a bit of a tool at times. Does this mean I can rob a couple of Kit-Kats while telling other people its wrong?
I'd probably sound a bit sanctimonious then wouldn't I??!!
I'm bringing this up ONLY because you were the one to start preaching on the other thread there Floss, not me. You just left yourself open to a taste of your own medicine. A sort of 'do as I say not as I do' on the subsequent thread kind of thing. 'Breaking this law is bad, but this one is fine because yer' man was a bit of so and so..'.
Don't preach what you choose not to practice (depending on when it suits you, of course), its boring and hypocritical Flossy!
Flossy!
Don't let me stop you uploading albums if you want to, just spare me the details of your clearly skewed moral reasoning and the pitiful tales of the poor auld BBC (Ha ha! I'd say they'd survive without your support, but uploading trad CD's might leave other copyright holders closer to home more noticeably short changed). Yep, sanctimony is boring and unhelpful, that's why I'm not into it myself.
I come here to discuss music, not for tit-for-tats or extremely flawed moral guidance.
As for pots and kettles Flossy, I'd have to be a hypocrite for that to be the case. Enough said?!
Flossy,
Despite the occasionally personal tone of some discussions, I hope you will continue the uploads. I've just discovered this site and had a happy time listening to some of your uploads. It reminded me of listening to my grandma's fine collection of ITM 78s in the 50s, when I first learned to play, and wearing out her old wind-up gramophone in the process.
Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Released in 1972 on the Leader label, this is a wonderful collection of tunes from South Sligo, featuring musicians such as Fred Finn, Peter Horan, Andrew Davey, John O'Gara and Séamus Tansey.
It's another one of those missing Bulmer-acquired Leader releases and has never been reissued exactly as it was on CD, though a 2001 release did include most of the tracks, all of which were interspersed with some caustic Tansey comments.
I'm not putting the link up for general download. Please send me a PM if you'd like a copy.
# Posted on July 14th 2009 by MacCruiskeen
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Hi-- I'd love to have this music. Thanks very much. Davy
# Posted on July 14th 2009 by David Levine
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Yes that sounds very interesting, Do you know the recording;'' the sound of Coleman country? trk 11 has certain Shane MacGowan playing guitar with Seamus O'donnell. Thats not 'The' Shane MacGowan is it?
# Posted on July 14th 2009 by piobagusfidil
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
OK, some wise guy has cracked my MediaFire page and already downloaded this file (and clearly told others about the link from the number of downloads). As a result, I've deleted it and the McCuskers as well.
I'll upload the MfCC file again elsewhere. This will take some time, so be please be patient if you've sent me a PM requesting it.
# Posted on July 14th 2009 by MacCruiskeen
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
That's the guitarist Shane McGowan from Sligo, Ionannas, not The Pogues man.
# Posted on July 14th 2009 by MacCruiskeen
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
I didnt think so but just on the off chance . cheers
# Posted on July 14th 2009 by piobagusfidil
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
I thought the CD "Revisited" release included all the tracks from the original, plus the additional track of Johnny "Watt" Henry's playing and Tansey's commentary? Certainly my MP3 rip of the CD appears to have all the tracks Kenny listed as being on the original album.
# Posted on July 14th 2009 by Sol Foster
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Just thought I'd remind you of your comment the other day Floss when a poster was a bit put out about not being able to watch BBC iPlayer outside the UK. I quote;
"TV-owning residents of the UK have to purchase a licence at a cost of £142.50 p.a to watch programmes legally. One of the BBC's major sources of income is the sale of its programmes to TV companies in other territories. Apart from some State support, these two combined factors provide the bulk of the BBC's funding to make its programmes.
The same situation applies to Ireland (where the licence fee is €160) which is why I, for one, get somewhat peeved when people such as the owner of this site publish here ways to bypass the system."
So you reckon uploading CD's for people to download (even though the tracks are on a re-issue) is OK, but we should spare a thought for the poor auld BBC license fee payers?
Give us a break before you get all sanctimonious the next time there Floss.
Here's a link to the discussion referred to earlier if anyone is interested in a fairly ludicrous display of hypocrisy.
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/22062
# Posted on July 15th 2009 by T
Thank you Mr. Keith
Re: reel deal
It was on RTE. For anyone outside Ireland who wants to watch the programme online:
Go to http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.php?country=IE to get an IP address.
Launch Firefox
Click Tools - Options (or Preferences on Mac)
Click 'Advanced' on the top menu
Choose the 'Network' tab and click on 'Settings...'
Choose 'Manual Proxy Configuration:'
Insert the ip address and port number for the proxy server.
e.g. 79.125.7.60, port 80
Go to http://www.rte.ie/player/#v=1050068
# Posted on June 13th 2009 by Jeremy
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/21828/comments#comment453601
# Posted on July 15th 2009 by Ben Steen
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
I appreciate getting these great downloads anyway. I am in far away land of OZ and fairly isolated in the bush. Thanks Floss.
# Posted on July 15th 2009 by bigyabby
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
http://rs254.rapidshare.com/files/177716137/ccts-mfcc.rar
password: reynardine
# Posted on July 15th 2009 by gravelwalks
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Thanks gravelwalks. The password isn't needed for downloading.
# Posted on July 15th 2009 by Martin_BC
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Yes, but you'll need it to unpack the archive.
# Posted on July 15th 2009 by gravelwalks
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Yes I see that now - thanks again!
# Posted on July 15th 2009 by Martin_BC
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
T,
I hope one of your minions managed to assist you in dismounting from your high horse. For the record, there is absolutely nothing sanctimonious or hypocritical about my position regarding TV licensing or downloads.
The licensing issue is straightforward. I was simply pointing out that state-funded broadcasting services are largely dependent upon the licensing fees paid by TV owners within their boundaries and that advertising proxy servers to circumvent restrictions those services have put in place is detrimental to their finances.
Then you write this:
'So you reckon uploading CD's for people to download (even though the tracks are on a re-issue) is OK, but we should spare a thought for the poor auld BBC license fee payers?'
Firstly, I have not uploaded a CD. It was a copy of the original vinyl album (and a much better one than that accessible from the link provided by gravelwalks).
The links I've provided on this board to uploads have been almost entirely related to out of copyright material. I've made two exceptions, 'Maiden Voyage' and 'Music from Coleman Country'. Both of these albums were released on the Celtic Music label, owned by the insidious Dave Bulmer (check Mudcat, if you've time, for details of his nefarious business activities). I made them available here knowing full well that absolutely none of the musicians who were recorded would be even one cent worse off as a result of my doing so. I'll make more available too once I have the time.
So, there you go, T (whose flesh, I presume, is the pristine pink of a neonate).
Thanks to the many people who sent me messages requesting the Sligo file. I won't be uploading it again since a link to the album, albeit of inferior quality, has been posted.
And, thanks to T's insinuations, I'm very much in two minds as to whether I should make available any more recordings.
# Posted on July 15th 2009 by MacCruiskeen
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Great Stuff Floss! Please continue to make available these excellent recordings to music lovers everywhere.
T - What a load of Krap!...Get off your high donkey!
"One of the BBC's major sources of income is the sale of its programmes to TV companies in other territories"..The BBC blasts a strong signal of ALL their excellent channels Free to air viewable over all these islands and most of mainland Europe... I know this myself because I have watched the BBC FTA on the French Med coast with the tiny Lidl camping satellite dish. I just wish our own RTE and TG4 would do the same. Rte Player is very good and I think it should be available to all especially the huge Irish ex Pat community."
Incidentally, I have some of these old recordings on vinyl but having no turntable and I'm not going to buy a USB turntable to convert a few LPs so I appreciate when somebody actually makes these available to me again in digital format.
Thanks again and keep up the good work!
# Posted on July 15th 2009 by CelticMissed
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Yeah Floss.
What you are doing IS hypocritical if you want to act all high and mighty about the BBC license fee and proxy servers, which I should add, I haven't used.
If you're going to get on your high horse (you got up there first sonny, its your horse!) about proxy servers and then upload CD's, you risk sounding sanctimonious and looking like a hypocrite.
If you don't see the contradiction in what your saying in and then doing, it might be something more severe than hypocrisy that's ailing ya!
Its always boring and unhelpful when otherwise interesting threads get hijacked by moral high-grounders like yourself Floss. You were the first one to mention proxy servers and get preachy on the other thread, this was all in an unwarranted response to another poster being frustrated at not being able to watch a concert.
You are acting in a hypocritical manner Floss, i.e. you are a hypocrite, and even more so if you try and justify what you're doing with some weak argument about the bona fides of a royalty agreement...
If the CD's are covered by copyright, you shouldn't be uploading them. How does that sound to you?
(Great view form up here on the auld moral high ground, do I remember a time, not so long ago, when Floss preached down to us from up here ???.........)
# Posted on July 16th 2009 by T
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Well, clearly, T,
You're a far more knowledgable person when it comes to morality than I am. Remind me, which cult worships you? I can't seen anything in your biography to encourage me to further exploration of your philosophy. In fact I can't see anything at all and I presume you've chosen you're mono-consonantal name to prevent anyone finding you here.
'What you are doing IS hypocritical if you want to act all high and mighty about the BBC license fee and proxy servers, which I should add, I haven't used.'
That'll be 'licence', by the way. I'm not acting 'high and mighty', just pointing out that it's not exactly advisable for a moderator of a site such as this to offend those members who have to pay their local licence fees or suggest means of circumventing international law.
But, since you're so intent on revealing my 'hypocrisy', let me put this question to you.
I've only made available an upload of one CD to this site, 'Maiden Voyage'. The second Celtic Music upload I withdrew, very rapidly after posting it (because some techno wizards had cracked my MediaFire page). was a copy of the original vinyl version of 'Music from Coleman Country'.
Both of these albums were released by Celtic Music, a label notorious for its failure to pay fees, let alone royalties, and also for the way it acquired the Leader catalogue and then did nothing with it. You describe my making available these recordings as 'with some weak argument about the bona fides of a royalty agreement'. Well, if you believe that, after reading the information I suggested you check on Mudcat, you're in a league of one, but I suspect that's a place you often find yourself.
I'll continue to make recordings available to members of The Session and I'll continue to make an exception when it comes to copyright for the releases of the Celtic Music label, but, since you know nothing about this I'll presume that you'll keep your clearly vacuous gob shut!
# Posted on July 16th 2009 by MacCruiskeen
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Whoops. it should have been 'I can't see anything in your biography'' and the question I intended to ask was 'Why should I stop?'
# Posted on July 16th 2009 by MacCruiskeen
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Flossy,
don't be so pedantic!
"That'll be 'licence', by the way. I'm not acting 'high and mighty', just pointing out that it's not exactly advisable for a moderator of a site such as this to offend those members who have to pay their local licence fees or suggest means of circumventing international law."
Flossy, don't try and capture the high-ground on spelling now as well, here's a lesson for ya
British Spelling U.S spelling
licence(noun)/license(verb) license(noun + verb)
offence offense
defence defense
yoghurt yogurt
colour color
hypocrite hypocrite
Now, you've made your concern for the BBC clear, so you've obviously aligned yourself to the British model, but on a far reaching website such as this I'm sure you'll find advocates of both U.S and British spelling. This site even makes uses of a U.S spell check. Test it out there Flossy!
There is also a law of copyright, and if you are going to base your judgments on when to infringe it on the character of one person, don't assume everyone else can follow the intricacies of your value system.
I don't know the scruples of every record executive in the world, but going by your nonsense, if they are questionable people, I can ignore the copyright? Does that apply just to copyright, or can we decide when to bypass the law in other situations. I'd be interested to hear you explain this because I go to this café where the owner is a bit of a tool at times. Does this mean I can rob a couple of Kit-Kats while telling other people its wrong?
I'd probably sound a bit sanctimonious then wouldn't I??!!
I'm bringing this up ONLY because you were the one to start preaching on the other thread there Floss, not me. You just left yourself open to a taste of your own medicine. A sort of 'do as I say not as I do' on the subsequent thread kind of thing. 'Breaking this law is bad, but this one is fine because yer' man was a bit of so and so..'.
Don't preach what you choose not to practice (depending on when it suits you, of course), its boring and hypocritical Flossy!
# Posted on July 16th 2009 by T
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
'Its always boring and unhelpful when otherwise interesting threads get hijacked by moral high-grounders like yourself Floss.'
Or yourself, T. Pots and kettles, eh?
Enough said.
# Posted on July 17th 2009 by MacCruiskeen
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Flossy!
Don't let me stop you uploading albums if you want to, just spare me the details of your clearly skewed moral reasoning and the pitiful tales of the poor auld BBC (Ha ha! I'd say they'd survive without your support, but uploading trad CD's might leave other copyright holders closer to home more noticeably short changed). Yep, sanctimony is boring and unhelpful, that's why I'm not into it myself.
I come here to discuss music, not for tit-for-tats or extremely flawed moral guidance.
As for pots and kettles Flossy, I'd have to be a hypocrite for that to be the case. Enough said?!
# Posted on July 17th 2009 by T
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Flossy,
Despite the occasionally personal tone of some discussions, I hope you will continue the uploads. I've just discovered this site and had a happy time listening to some of your uploads. It reminded me of listening to my grandma's fine collection of ITM 78s in the 50s, when I first learned to play, and wearing out her old wind-up gramophone in the process.
# Posted on August 5th 2009 by Stiofan-Mc
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
T can get fecked
# Posted on August 6th 2009 by DADGADLad
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Go play with your capo there DADGADlad.
# Posted on August 13th 2009 by T
Re: Upload - Music from Coleman Country
Does T play the pink clarinet?
# Posted on August 14th 2009 by The Rollicking Boy